Ethical Sluts and Elvis

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voyeurs and connoisseurs, ethical sluts, and Elvis lovers. Yes, indeed, brothers and sisters, all you children of sex, and we are all children of sex. Whether we think we're children of God or Jesus or Allah or Buddha, Adonai, Brahma, Brahmadama, or whatever.

One thing we do know, we are all children of sex. Maybe it came out of the Garden of Eden, maybe it came from an egg or a chicken, whichever first, you know, sperm. But one thing we do know is it's sex with a capital X. Can I hear an amen?

I hear an A, women. A, women. I want to welcome you to the Dr. Susan Block show broadcasting live from the Garden of Eden with my animal, my familiar snake Eve.

And we are getting in touch with our animal natures tonight. Our ethical natures, our slutty natures. Our Elvis natures. Shake those hips.

And my guest tonight, my featured guest, my first guest, is a very, very special woman who I haven't seen in a long time. And so I'm really excited to see her, even if it's just on the screen. Janet Hardy, welcome to Dr. Susie TV.

Thank you very much. Thank you for having me on. Welcome back. Yes, it's been almost 20 years now, I think. Absolutely, it has. We were in the Villa Pia Cere, now we're in the Villa Bonobo.

And we're so happy to have you. Of course, Janet, for those of you who have been living under a rock, is the co-author of Ethical Slut. The Ethical Slut.

And I have two different copies from two different editions. I have the first edition, which is a guide to infinite sexual possibilities, by Catherine A. List. And I have the new edition, second edition, which is a practical guide to polyamory,

open relationships, and other adventures by Dossie Easton and Janet W. Hardy. And Janet W. Hardy, of course, is your, should we say real name? My real name, yeah, the one on my birth certificate. At the time that we did the first edition of the Ethical Slut, my kids were still minors.

So I wrote under a pen name, but now they are all grown up, so I don't have to. They're in the majors. Oh, yeah. Ethical Sluts themselves, I hope.

I hope so, too. Anyway, the Ethical Slut, for those of you who just tuned in, is the classic sex-positive, poly-friendly manifesto of the modern time, really. It's very much a practical guide, and very much a philosophical guide,

and it's really inspired a lot of people, a lot of sluts, a lot of authors, like myself. It certainly plays an important part in the Bonobo way. Bonobos being, you know, sort of the quintessential Ethical Sluts.

Yeah. By the way, I just want to insert that Janet is going to be the keynote speaker next Saturday, July 25th at Sex Positive World's sexual health series kickoff, redefining sexuality for the 21st century in UCLA's Northwest Campus Auditorium.

So, get you to UCLA, Ethical Slut. If you feel like you are an Ethical Slut, or you want to be. Anyway, Janet is the Ethical Slut expert. So, welcome again, Janet.

Hello, hello. Yeah, where are you right now? I'm in Eugene, Oregon, by a very firm office. This is your office, a writer, publisher's office, right there.

Do you need some sort of erotic painting on your wall, I think, or something, yeah. Well, I have some, but they're not on this side of the room. They're over there. Gotcha.

But I'm glad you pulled it down a little, so you have less headroom. That's good, that's good. I wear hats to keep from having headroom. So, I'm, you know, when I first interviewed you, it was with your co-author, Dossy Easton.

How is Dossy? That's right in Los Angeles. She's well, she had major surgery on her back earlier this year, so she's still in recovery. But she's recovering really nicely.

Yeah, wow, surgery on her back. I hope that didn't come from being an Ethical Slut. I don't think so. I don't think that she did anything to her back being a slut.

I think she did a lot to her back driving to and from the hills of Moran County. Probably. But I bet that being an Ethical Slut will help her to heal. Oh, it certainly has.

Her aftercare team, because it was really very major surgery and she needed people with her. Yes. They were all lovers and ex-lovers and lovers-lovers who all teamed up so that she had 24-7 care while she was recovering from the surgery. It was beautiful.

Absolutely. It's a wonderful thing to have a community of lovers, you know, a community of fellow Ethical Sluts, you know, when you're in good times and bad to celebrate and to get through the tough times. Exactly.

So, you wrote this book, this version, which is pretty much the same. I mean, there's some updates. I re-read it. It's still great.

It's actually fairly extensively updated. We rearranged it. We added a few new sections. We added exercises.

We didn't want it to be just a few additions to the old. We wanted it to be something worth buying again. And I think we succeeded in that. Oh, yeah.

I'm glad to have both copies, you know. I mean, I have to admit, I didn't have a chance to read both editions and compare them. I just read the new one. But, yeah, I'd love, first of all, the definition of a slut because it's a word that has a lot of emotion to it.

So, we should define our terms. I believe the definition we used in the book we actually swiped from a paper Dossi did in undergraduate school. And the definition is someone who believes that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you. Yes.

And you do say a person of any gender. So, you know, let's include everyone right there, you know. And Dossi and I both kind of learned our slut hood from our gay men friends because gay men are so often really good ethical sluts. And that's where we both came of age was among gay men.

And so that's a very strong influence in our work. Yes, yes. Gay men, you know, have a free flow in a way. Many do.

Of hot sluttery and have dealt with the ups and the downs, the extreme ups and downs of sexual sluttery, you know. Exactly so. So, how would you define yourself? Do you define yourself as poly, gay, bi, straight?

Um, complicated, but who isn't? Um, let's see, I, I'm genderqueer. I guess most people would call me by I'm married to a by man who is also genderqueer. I'm not actively poly right now, but it's still on the table.

It's still definitely part of our relationship agreements. Um, and I'm sort of living a fairly low key life at this point, moved up here to Oregon a few years ago, and still getting to know the local community and meeting people. So the poly thing will probably come back up for me at some point, but so far I haven't been in a big rush. Well, you're coming down to La La Land.

What's that? I said you're coming down to La La Land LA. Well, I think we have our own La La Land here in Eugene. Well, actually, you do, you do, it's true.

Uh, you've got maybe even more action, I mean per capita, I think there's a lot of poly action in Oregon. Yeah, in Eugene and in Portland and in the woods, you know, it's, it's kind of, it's, it's almost also part of the eco sexuality movement. You know, this is an old hippie town and the free love influence is still definitely here. Yes.

Out of town into the woods a little bit. You don't have to go very far before you find people still doing communal living and things of that nature. So yeah, it's a very easy town to be a slot in. Yeah.

So, so we find that we're talking more and more to people in Portland and let's see Chelsea goes back and forth and forth to Portland all the time. And Serena Anderlene was just in Portland. Lindsay Hagamman, who co-authored eco sexuality is in Portland. But back to the ethical slut.

And one thing I love about it is how at a time when being called a slut, I guess in the 1990s, you know, was, was really rough. I mean, it still can be rough, you know. It still can. Absolutely.

It still can. Particularly for younger women, it can be really a bullying kind of a word. Yeah. Like, like for instance, when Rush Limbaugh called Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke a slut, you know, for wanting her health provider to take care of birth control.

And, you know, he meant it in a very political way and kind of in a personal way. But, you know, it actually probably heard him more than her. You see, because now we're in the 2000s. It's not like he's Lily White Pure himself, is it?

Oh, my God. He's an unethical slut. Yes. We'll talk more about those in a bit.

But in terms of ethical sluts. Yes. I have heard it argued that nobody should ever call anybody a slut because it has this painful history attached to it. But my feeling is that if, if we really thought it was a good thing to have lots of sex, then it wouldn't be an insult to call someone a slut.

And since I do think it's a good thing to have a lot of sex, if that's what you want to do, then to me it sounds like a great thing to be called. Yes. Yes, captain man. I'm sorry, you started to say something about the definition of a slut, because I'm 72 years old.

So I've been through all the sluttiness that anyone could imagine. So what is the modern, new sexual revolution meaning of slut? Well, let me find a quote for you. Yeah, thank you.

Well, I mean, you know, a slut is a person of any gender who celebrates sexuality according to the radical proposition that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you. We are proud to reclaim the word slut as a term of approval, even endearment. As proud sluts, we believe that sex and sexual love are fundamental forces for good activities with the potential to strengthen intimate bonds, enhanced lives, open spiritual awareness, even change the world. So I just want to also say that I looked it up on the internet and according to the British definition of slut, it is a slovenly woman.

Yes. A slovenly woman. And then there's another one, a saucy girl, which is a lot better. And then there is, I guess, just promiscuous, which isn't bad really.

If you go by the Chris Ryan sex at dawn definition of promiscuity as meaning simply mixed, not necessarily indiscriminate. Even if it's indiscriminate, I mean, there are things to be learned by having sex without a lot of emotional connection. Just having sex for sex is safe. Yeah.

Nothing wrong with that. You know, the bonobos, I don't think they insist on a marriage contract. They have sex because it feels good. True.

But I don't say that's indiscriminate. I mean indiscriminate is kind of like who cares, who it's with. And I think we all want some kind of connection, even if it's purely physical. You know, and that's all.

I guess a lot of people think of a slut as like she doesn't care, she could be with anyone. But really there is some caring, even if it's just to experiment and explore and try something new. And the same with the bonobos. And I'm so glad you brought up the bonobos.

Because, yeah, they are, of course, the quintessential ethical sluts. And you know, I mean, ethics, I don't know. I don't think that they come with civilization and religion and government. I think they come, part of them at least, comes with being in touch with our animal nature.

Because being good feels good. And I think your book brings that out. So we're seeing more and more research into the ability of many animals, not just primates, to have empathetic feelings, to want the people or the animals they care about to feel good.

Yes. We see things with rats who set aside food for another rat that they know doesn't have any food. Things of that nature. So it seems as though, you know, if the fundamental ethics of ethical sluthood is empathy,

which I think it is, then I think a lot of animals have the potential to be ethical sluts. Absolutely. Bonobos are just the closest to us. Absolutely.

But certainly Evie can be empathetic. But when she, yes, she can. So Max, how was that? What definition do you like?

No, I mean, I like all those definitions. I, of course, grew up being a slut. Yes. And an ethical one.

And an ethical one, sort of ethical. But there is something interesting. In Italy, in the small village, a slut is not only someone that kind of sleeps around as promiscuous and so forth, but it is anyone who talks about other people or gossips about people.

They're considered like sluts, you know, because they're putting everything out there. Putting everything out there. Right. And, you know, basically defaming others in the little communities of Italy.

But, you know, I grew up, I grew up in the theater in the 50s in Italy after the war. And, of course, I hung out with hookers and I went down to the local parks where all the transgenders were and all of the, you know, and it was really, so I grew up with it. So I'm very comfortable with being called just about any name. And, of course, when you grew up, Elvis was a major slut.

And, of course, there was Elvis who was shaking his pelvis. Yes. And he was considered pretty much a major slut, actually. Not always so ethical.

Huh? Well, I mean, there's this whole tell all book out about him now that says he wasn't always so ethical, but... So ethical? No, I mean...

Ethical? Who's ethical? Well, some people are ethical sluts. That's what the book's about, you know.

We should try to be ethical sluts. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Right. Right.

So, yeah, let's talk about that. I mean, are people becoming more ethical about their sluttery or sluttishness? Yeah. I think so.

I do. I think as the idea of ethical sluthood, of polyamory, of open relationships, of all these associated ideas becomes more popular, people don't feel like they have to hide as much. Right.

Because they don't feel like they have to hide. They feel like they can be honest with the people they care about, about what's going on. So there's not as much cheating. There's not as much underhandedness and not as much shame.

Shame, mm-hmm. Shame leads to bad behavior. So, yeah, I do think that slutthood is getting more ethical. Yeah.

And I mean, when we have marriage equality in all of the land, that's a statement that makes a lot of people feel comfortable with their sexuality. And more likely to admit that, you know, they are gay or bi or queer or poly. It's all a little more acceptable. It totally is, yeah.

My concern about marriage equality is that it's going to inflict monogamy type ethics on gay people the way it has for hetero people all along. You know, I think from what I'm hearing from my gay friends, we're seeing some of that, that these sort of monogamy centrist values are becoming a lot more common among gay men and lesbians, which I wish they weren't, but it may just be a phase that we have to go through. And I think it goes both ways. You know, there's a gay influence on marriage.

It's becoming a little more open now. And, you know, it's kind of going both ways. There's an open communication between the right and the left, whether we like it or not on these subjects, because our sexuality, we all feel it. We all have to deal with it.

So you think there's more ethical sluttery than cheating, you know, since you published the first ethical slut versus... Well, I don't think there's necessarily more, but I think the ratio has gotten better. More people who are feeling the desire to cheat now know that opening up a relationship in a consensual way is a possibility. So they are looking at that as a possibility.

They're going out and buying the book and figuring out how to do it. Okay, so both... we've got sluts becoming more ethical because, of course, you can't hide anymore. It's harder to hide. That's one other element. Hiding is more difficult, so it behooves people to be more honest than in Elvis' day, I suppose.

And then there's also good ethical people are becoming more slutty. Because even if we can control ourselves, you know, hey, if we really feel, hey, there's nothing wrong with this, and you know what, it might be actually a little good for my relationship, my marriage, to infuse other people's erotic energy, you know, in whatever way. You do that.

What's lovely is that a lot of people who are doing open relationships and polyunsluttered are doing it visibly. You know, there's television programs and, you know, your show and books and all sorts of things. So there are role models now, which there never were before. At the time that we wrote the first edition back in 1997, there was nothing.

You know, you couldn't find out anything about how to do this. If you were trying to do it, you were sort of on your own. Well, you could learn how to shake your hips by watching Elvis. Yeah, I mean, you could learn a lot from watching, you know, the celebrities.

Hey, speaking of celebrities, are there any ethical slut celebrities? Tilda Swinton has come out as having been with two men, two male partners. And they kind of sort of live together in two different houses, but they share a lot of things. Other than sex, they seem to share a household.

That's correct. It's sort of a classically poly setup. I think Will and Jada Pinkett Smith have spoken about being in an open relationship. Open. More than poly. Monique has spoken about being poly.

There's a few. It's not the kiss of death that it once was. Yeah, yeah. It's out there. It definitely is. Delived to see a poly president someday. Well, yeah, I guess.

I guess our wonderful dickhead here doesn't qualify as poly, even though he somehow survived his presidency with his two women. And I'm talking about Bill Clinton, of course. I mean, simply, you know, traveling that road in public.

It opened up some things, I think. It made a lot of people think, you know, if she's okay with it, meaning Hillary, then what's wrong with it? You know, a lot of people did open up that conversation because of Bill.

After it came out in the news about Newt Gingrich having asked his wife for an open relationship, we did more interviews in the week or two after that than I think we've ever done. Yeah.

Just because it really opened dialogue about open relationships. And you can see it happens on the right and the left. Yeah, so your talk next Saturday with Sex Positive LA is redefining sexuality for the 21st century.

What does that mean to you? Well, I will be moderating a panel of other sex educators and sex experts. And so heaven only knows which way the dialogue will go. But my basic take on it is that the longer I spend being a writer

and an educator about sex, the less I know about what sex is and isn't. Increasingly, I feel like you can't set sex apart from everything else.

Sex sort of flows through everything we do. And so when you talk about, I was just reading a piece today, a lovely piece about the ways that you can love somebody in your life without having sex with them.

While it was a lovely piece and I adored it, it was also in my head that how do you know you're not having sex with them? If you're hugging or if you're having an intimate conversation or if you're loving someone just because your genitals aren't touching

doesn't mean it isn't a kind of sex. Yes, yes. That's kind of where I'm at these days is trying to blur the boundaries or trying to show how blurred the boundaries are between sex and not

sex, between men and women, between love and not love. All of those boundaries are very gray. And so that will probably be what I want to talk about. Unless I have another inspiration between now and Saturday.

Blurring the boundaries of sex, of what is sex. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're already blurry, really.

It's just we create these boundaries. And yet, you know, we've got to have boundaries. You know, you've got to have our space. You know, the boundary of consent is extremely important.

And it gets more important. The more of a slut you are. And yeah. When I go to the dentist, one of the ways I get through difficult

dental appointments is to sit in the dentist's chair and fantasize while she's working on my teeth. Because that's distracting enough that I don't notice what she's doing.

And I was pondering the other day, am I having sex with my dentist? And if so, is it consensual? That's the kind of question. It's torture.

That's for sure. It's definitely torture. I guess it is consensual because you agreed to sit down. And pay for it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually a professional job there.

Yeah. Now, speaking of sex work, I mean, is that a form of ethical sluttery? And by the way, I want to say to my bar, if you guys, if

any of you have any questions about being an ethical slut because you're all sluts, you might as well be ethical. Right? I mean, or if you have a question and you want to come up to the

mic, Chelsea or Biz or Trixie or whoever, I don't know who's out there really. But anyway, so, so, so yeah, so where were we now? Yeah.

Jealousy. What about jealousy? How do people deal? How do people turn jealousy into compersion, which

is a kind of Polly ethical sluttery term for being okay with it, being happy for it, being like, yeah, I'm happy that my, my lover is enjoying him or herself. I sometimes hear Polly people say that compersion is

the opposite of jealousy. And I don't think it is because I think it's possible to feel jealous and conversion at the same time. Yes.

I think, you know, you can have that nasty, niggly little jealous feeling in the pit of your stomach at the same time as you're feeling happy for your partner who's having a marvelous time.

So the trick to jealousy is to understand that you can't fix it by asking someone else to change their behavior. And if you could, that would be so disempowering to you because it puts you out of control.

Jealousy gets fixed inside yourself. I got to ask my crew back there to turn themselves down. I think I hear you in my headphones. Do other people hear the crew or whatever that is, right?

I hear them in my headphones. So this is non consensual oral. Well, I mean, if you really, really stretch your definition of sex, I suppose we could call it sex.

Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. So yeah, because, you know, this is important stuff, this jealousy stuff, huh? You know, how to grapple with that.

And I totally agree that, you know, if you don't feel any jealousy at all, you probably wouldn't feel conversion because you kind of wouldn't care, right? Which is possible and okay, not to care, you know, to be

in that kind of ethical slut state. But to feel that compersion of really, yes, I feel good that the person I love is really having a good time and going to bring it home eventually, somehow.

Then, you know, that compersion can come forth with that tiny shred of jealous anxiety that, you know, maybe they won't come home. So when they do, it's really exciting, you know.

Yeah, so cool. So Chelsea, you are here. Would you, you're a slut and I believe you're ethical. I think you're trying to be ethical.

Yeah. It wasn't always. What? She just fell off.

Mike help, need Mike help? Okay. So there she goes. Thank you.

Okay. No, no. Testing. Testing.

We are testing, are testing. It's just really nice to meet you, Janet Hardy. And I have to say that as a teenager, I was kind of a natural, a natural slut and indistigated

different, I lived in a commune. But many years later, when I was married with children, I'd often find my husbands were very possessive and so I would end up sneaking and

having some sex behind their backs. And it was until I met a friend. I just want to give him a shout out. He's Jonathan Corman in San Francisco.

And he said to me, now you're going to talk to your husband about this, aren't you? And I said, what? And he said, yeah.

That's the sophisticated thing to do. You know, and he's sophisticated, you know, whatever kind of thing. So I said, all right, and I got the book and

got a divorce. Yeah. You got the ethical slut book. Right.

Yeah. All right. All right. Well, there's a, there's a testimonial for

you right there. And Jonathan sending love. We should collect ethical slut cause my divorce testimonials.

What? There are some. Yeah. Well, you know, it causes some honesty,

which either brings you closer together or breaks you up, you know, one way or the other. And that doesn't mean you can't have a

different kind of a relationship. You might be wind up being friends or, or even lovers later on. But if something isn't working,

then you either have to renegotiate it or change it. Yeah. If the book is, is part of helping someone do

that, then I think we've done a good job. Well, you have. And it has certainly helped Chelsea. And me.

And so group sex. Love the subject. Yes. I love the way you describe it as a

fundamentally radical political act to deprivatize sex. Because it's another way in which the bonobos are the quintessential ethical

sluts and orgasms. They have sex with other people around. Other bonobos, that is. Yes.

And sometimes people too. Oh yeah. Well, you know, I really do think it's hurtful to

us that most people have never seen anybody else have sex. How can you possibly have a sense of rightness about yourself?

If all you've ever seen is, you know, nothing against porn. I think porn has its place, but porn is not sex.

Yeah. It's, it's sex made into entertainment. And, you know, once you've put on the makeup and done the editing and so on,

it's wildly unrealistic. And so most people don't even see other people naked, much less having sex. And I think it's, it's hugely harmful.

Yes. I think the visual of other people having sex does help us feel normal, helps us feel, you know, it's,

it's that presence and the smell and the sounds and all of it is, is very invigorating. You know, whether you're monogamous

or you're polyamorous, just being in what we call a sex party or an orgy is something everyone should experience in some form or another.

And then there are some of these things that don't involve intercourse, you know, and of course, bonobos are great outer course

professionals. They love outer course. But, you know, if you're afraid of the intercourse, go to a cuddle party,

you know, and you could experience that. I did, as a fundraiser one year, I did the San Francisco Sex Information Masterbatathon,

which is a group masturbation event. And it was immensely freeing. I went just because my spouse was working the door and I was bored.

But I wound up having so much better a time than I thought I would. So slut shaming, slut shaming, let's talk about that for a minute,

because we talked about, you know, Republicans like Rush Limbaugh's slut shaming and that's kind of easy to talk about, but sometimes there's slut

shaming among fellow sluts. Yes, there is. And what do we do about that? The slut community?

Call it when we see it, of course. A lot of the time, none of us is impervious to sex-negative messages.

We all grew up in a deeply sex-negative world and sometimes that bites us on the ass without our knowledge, without our

conscious awareness. And so sometimes all we have to do is say, do you realize that that's a really slut-shaming thing you just said?

And they can think about it and go, oh, golly, yeah, I guess it is. Other times we have to stand up for our own boundaries.

It's not always fun to be a slut. And you just have to

be prepared to dig your little heels in and say, no, you don't get to say this to me. Uh-huh. And even if they do

say it, because of course, you know, on the internet people can say a lot of things. You know, you have to either

combat it with your own words or pictures, or, you know, turn off your internet. Yeah.

Or just get good. My friend Patrick says, other people's opinion of me is not none of my business.

That's you just kind of have to get there, which I think one of the things I like about growing older

is it's a lot easier to not worry about what other people think about me than it was when I was younger. Now, there's so many different points

of controversy in sludery. I mean, one point, of course, is, you know, the polyamory, the opening of the relationship.

I mean, some people could say another point is certain sexual acts, like BDSM or anal sex, or, you know,

trans genderism. And some people would also, you know, here's where there's some

slut shaming, I think, is within the slut community, is that some people are really for sex work, and some people are very

much against, you know, certain kinds of sex work. And it's, it can

cause a lot of shaming. Well, I think that the sex quote-unquote work

industry, which I've been in for many, many years, is like the Republicans and the Democrats, meaning

that they shame each other. So the polyamorous people don't like the swingers, because the swingers,

you know, and there's that whole thing going on within the business which as a sexualist

and as someone who has been fighting for these things for many years, I really kind of disappoints

me. We've gone so far, and yet we're still judging each other in these communities.

Well, we do, and we have to hash it out sometimes. I mean, for instance, you know, on Polly Superstar's Sex, Culture, Revolutionary

Group, she posted should I interview Dennis Hoff, you know, who's the head of the Bunny Ranch, which

is, of course, a legal brothel, and a lot of people thought he shouldn't, and I think she shouldn't, and I think it wound up

that the people who thought she should prevailed, but I was amazed that people thought she shouldn't even interview him, you know.

It's like this poo poo attitude, right? It's just, you know, some people, different types of sluts are

open often to their own turn on. You know, it's like their own thing is a turn on, and then somebody else's thing they might think of

as wrong, and they don't see the benefit of that thing in a more global way. And one thing that's great about

the ethical slut is it does approach the whole global question of sluttery. It takes this on

as, you know, something, you know, in terms of learning about your sex and your emotions, but also as a political act,

and to keep that in mind in terms of, you know, people's right to speak and right to

do what they do as long as it's consensual. Yeah, so, because sometimes people forget about

that, and they just like really slut shame a different type of

slut. I think one of the forms of slut shaming we're seeing a lot these days is

a real contempt for heterosexual male sexuality, and I think that's part of what we see coming through when we hear anti-sex work

kind of the kinds of talk with sex workers for this part they serve the straight

male customer. There's a real disdain for straight male sexuality that disturbs me. Wow, well I'm glad

that you said that. Yeah, me too. And I've been experiencing that lately in a way, in an odd way

because I wrote a piece about Bill Cosby's sleep fetish. Of course I said it's rape and it's wrong. It's non-consensual.

It's wrong. You know, nobody do this. Stop, stop. But let's figure out what's going on.

Why did he do this? Maybe because he was ashamed of his sleep fetish and thought the only way he could do it was consensual. I wish he'd consulted

a therapist instead of the police. Well, you know, I got a lot of fans, fortunately, but there were a few people who said

how could you possibly say that there's any excuse? I said it's not an excuse. They were kind of slut-shaming me

as someone who would even come up with a reason that a rapist would rape. I said wouldn't you

want to come up with a reason that a murderer would murder? Well, yes. But this is rape. Well, I think it's because of it's being

sex as opposed to murder which is a lot worse but not as emotional

that people have a hard time being open-minded. People get triggered and I understand that and I've been called

all those names too for saying similar things. I don't blame people who have perhaps

been sexually assaulted for getting emotionally triggered. Of course. It can be very difficult to talk to people when they're like that because by definition

they're not rational. And we do need to have a rational conversation about male sexuality. You know, just like we need

to have it about female sexuality and about transgender sexuality but yeah, I mean there's... What's wrong with my male

sexuality? Your male sexuality is perfect honey. Thank you. Let's just say when like that

Santa Barbara killer whose name I forget fortunately because I don't want to make him famous but he railed against sluts

right? He didn't know about ethical sluts and I don't mean to laugh. I mean, it was just

so disgusting that he had this Hollywood trained sense of how to get his message across and his message was

a wake-up call in a way that we need to educate men about

ethical sluttery and women. So many men are straight men especially are in such pain

and then they if they don't get somebody to listen

it can go that way. It can turn into rage and violence which does not in any way excuse the violence but

that's the underpinnings when we make them not okay for wanting what they want then there's no place

for them to go with that. Well, there are places for them to go they gotta go read this book, Ethical Slut

and look at the bonobos. The bonobos are setting up a new paradigm I mean, we've always thought

that we're irrevocably violent and patriarchal because of the common chimps

and the baboons, the killer ape paradigm and the bonobos show us that there's another way, they're equally close

they're polyamorous they're female empowered and very sexual and they've never been seen

killing each other in the wild or captivity so they do kind of give us a little inspiration that we can be ethical sluts.

You do indeed. I've got a lovely picture of what book I'm sure you have it too. So, wow we're kind of running out of time.

Biz, you're here. You are an ethical slut of course. I believe that was why one of the criteria of being hired

here is being an ethical slut. And I have the greatest tutelage so it's fantastic for that purpose and really the bonobo way is one way

that it does empower a straight approach to sex. We encourage that kind of a thing

and you know, I think that the sex industry has not been as it is based on originally

the straight man. We started there and we can always go back there because they're always going to have needs. Because they're horny.

They are. But we've only got three minutes. We celebrate guys around here even though we've got four girls on right now.

Very poignant. Speaking of which we're going to have a guy soon Smokey is going to join us. And we encourage you. Elvis tribute

artists. We're going to talk about Elvis' ethical sluttery. Thank you so much. Janet Hardy author of the

ethical slut. Fabulous manifesto. When is when is the Saturday this coming Saturday

the 25th. We might have some of the people over on the show later. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a UCLA. It's Sex Positive LA.

It's all over our Facebook and and Janet's. So, so yeah. And we might have Orpheus Black

on that night. Anyway, he's doing it. And our friend Dr. Hernando Chavez shout out to him. Yeah. All right.

Thank you so much, Janet. The bonobos love you later. Okay. Yeah. Talk to you later.

All right. All right. And so that's Janet Hardy author

co-author of the ethical slut. And we're going to have Elvis in just a moment. That's why we call this show ethical sluts and Elvis.

So don't come yet and don't go away. We'll be right back. Hi. I'm Dr. Susan Block and I've just written a new book

called The Bonobo Way inspired by my love for the make love not war great apes. You know, the ones who have a lot

of sex in a bonobo sutra of positions, including face to face. But it's not just how bonobos have sex.

It's how they use sex to prevent murder and war really. They're the only great apes that have never been

seen killing each other. They practice what I call peace through pleasure with the females gently dominating the very happy

very sexually satisfied males. Bonobos are special partly because they just are and partly because they're

very, very close to us almost 99 percent genetically similar to us when it comes to being human, even

being humane. Bonobos can teach us so much which brings me to us and more specifically to you.

Is your inner bonobo longing to swing free? Would you like to tap into the hot natural sex

energy within you that you would so you can better enjoy the pleasures in life and cope with the pain you know, the pain

and have more orgasmic, organic sustainable sex. Who doesn't want that? Greater lust,

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bonobos from extinction. Read the bonobo way and learn why this could be the most important eco-sexual movement of our times. And

improve your love life. Sisters, we are going to have a Sybian ride for Masturbation Month.

So you've never been on a Sybian before? No, I've never been on one before. Okay. Now you are ready to ascend the throne.

Mr. Tracy, you are going to ride God's machine now. Put one leg right here.

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More strong. We never get tired of watching a pretty girl on the Sybian celebrate and masturbation month.

Yes. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Oh, yes.

Yes, yes. Come on. Princess. Princess Serena.

Come on. That is a beautiful thing. Thank you, Dr. Susan Block. You're a wonderful human being.

You're a wonderful human being, Dr. Susan Block. Thank you. Hi, man. I think we have orgasm, Houston.

Let's have a hand. We have lift-off. We have lift-off. Okay, we're gonna go.

Bye, Sister Penny. Testify. That you masturbate. And you are not ashamed.

How was it? What's your report? My vagina is so tingly right now. It feels like pop rock. I'm just gonna take this home.

Take it off. I think it's bigger than your little body. That is the best product endorsement I've ever seen. Can I leave now?

Like, I'm ready. Come on. Where's the husband? You got the Sybian.

You don't need the husband. Oh, my God. Don't let her fall over. Whoa.

Hey, darling girl. I love you. I love you. That's my girl.

Thank you, thank you. So, brothers and sisters, we are channeling Elvis. Mm-hmm.

So, hunk-a-hunk-a microphone. Turn on her mic. Yeah, turn on that mic, please. Turn on the mic.

I have here with me. Turn on the mics. Trixie Plenty. No, I don't.

I don't have her with me. There is plenty of Trixie going on. A whole lot of Trixie going on. And Chelsea Bonobo.

Hey. And Trixie, say something. No, no. Okay, on switch.

We've got to turn her on. So handy, hey there. It's a basic aspect of broadcasting. You know, turn it on.

I know how to turn it on. It's also a basic aspect of sluddery. Being an ethical house. The flick of the wrist.

So, tonight's Dr. Susan Block Show Broadcasting live from Bonoboville is Ethical Sluts

and Elvis. I'm totally an ethical slut. Yeah. I have morals and shit when I'm being a slut.

Yeah. I'm talking about it. You have reservations. You make reservations.

I don't let girls lick the tip until the second date. Because I have standards. Ooh.

Are you talking about the tip of your enjoyous? The tip of my enjoyous. The tip of my glit. The tip of the tip.

Okay. Well, we're just reaching the tip of the iceberg. And here's my microphone. Okay.

So, we're about to hit the iceberg. Whoa. I'm not speaking of tips.

Oh well. Okay. So yeah, we just had Janet Hardy who gave us lots of tips on being an ethical slut.

And we're about to enter the world of Elvis who was a slut. You know, for sure.

Elvis was like a mega slut. Not exactly always ethical. At least certainly, well, I mean, according to Priscilla and

yeah, everybody else. I mean, basically. Hard to be a rock star. How many baby mamas does Elvis have?

Nowadays it's different, you know. Well, I mean, yeah. Priscilla was pretty young. But he didn't marry her until she was 25.

And then they stopped having sex. No, I mean, after. He was quoted as saying you don't bring a sandwich to a banquet regarding her

when it came to his own sluttery. He had, he had his own ethical crossroads, I think, when it came to

actually accepting that he had a wife. And he wanted to come to the banquet hungry. He did. He didn't have a wife on tour.

That makes no sense. He also said don't party. You'll carry life in somebody else's lock. Yeah, but he's bringing

a sandwich to a banquet, especially if it's a potluck is really a great idea. You know, I mean, if it's a potluck you want to bring a sandwich so that you can

write. I think he didn't want to share as soon. I think not. This was the 50s

really and the 60s, which was, you know, a sexual revolution underway. He got in with the drug part of it.

He was free with a lot of the things that he did. The biggest thing about Elvis to me that is, you know, ethical

sluttery, you know, is the hips. He turned on so many

young women girls. He was twerking before we knew about

twerking. Belly dancing, right? Okay. That was Elvis and that was

amazing that, you know, he had the Ed Sullivan show kind of turned off. I mean, I think Ed Sullivan turned it off.

Wasn't that right, Max? Probably because he was turned on. One of his constituents.

I was at my neighbor's house who had the first color TV actually. And all the kids were all excited

and we were waiting for Elvis. And her father came in and said, no,

you know, wait a minute. And he actually called the stage and said, do not show Elvis from the waist down.

So he literally twerked anyway. We can all tell he was twerking.

Well, we're going to see some twerking now. Brothers and sisters. Because we have

a professional twerker. I need somebody to twerk for a Birken. What is that?

A Birken is a cover up of a pussy, right? A Birken is a purse. A $100,000 purse. I need them to twerk like they want a $100,000 purse.

I thought a Birken was, oh, that's a Birken, sorry. Birken, that's a vagina wig. I fucking love Birkins.

I'm growing one myself. Okay. Don't be. Oh yeah, decommissioned over there?

Like I want a Birken. I'm growing my Birken. All right. So we're going to

we're going to get slutty with a few Elvis tunes. So everybody

kind of get comfortable because right now I'm comfortable.

Right now live from Bonoboville on the Dr. Susan Block show

it's Elvis Presley tribute artist Smokey Binion Jr.

Shake it, Smokey. Shake it. Twerk it, Smokey. Bring it. Bring it.

Yeah. Turn that volume up, guys. Turn up that volume. Damn, I want to fill this in my soul.

Turn up the volume. Okay, go, go, go. Yeah. Look at that footwear, guys.

He's stepping. He's shaking. Go, go, go, go. Go, Smokey, go, go.

Go, Smokey, go, go. Go, Smokey, go, go. Go, Smokey, go, go. Smokey, be good.

Be good, Smokey. Look at that hip. Smokey, that's... He's trying to get somebody back.

Oh my God, that's good. Smokey, that is so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straighten up those chains. There you go.

Oh, unzip. Oh, no. It's about to go down now. I see it even.

Somebody is just heaving over here. It ain't breathing. It's even. Twerk, Twerk, Twerk.

I feel the spirit of Elvis. Is it burning in your soul? It is. Souls of my head.

To my head. Hunk of... There it is. Hunk of Hunk of. Hunk of Hunk of burning Smokey.

Hunk of Hunk of Smoking Love. Hunk of Hunk of Smoking Love. Get it, Smokey, get it. Go, Smokey, go.

Hunk of Hunk of Smoking... Smokey Binion Jr. Thank you, brother. I'll be like a fool.

I'll be like a fool. I'll be so cruel to you. I'll break your heart. Step on it.

I'll always love you. I love Smokey. Like a puppy. We got some backup vocals.

Get a girl. There's no way that you're going to be that lucky. All eyes on each other, You're going to peace.

no gain, no money. On your knees. Down on your knees.

That's how I like them. You're going to pay us all. That's my jam. Get it, Smokey.

Is this ever going to come down some more? This is bloody soft. We're getting smoky. You got...

I didn't even have to show my tits. He is a hound dog. Bring out the animal. You ain't nothing but a hound dog.

Shake it, Smokey. Shake it. Oh, yeah. You're schvitzin. You're schvitzin? I got the papers.

You know, you're schvitzin. You know, can a bitch get a Priya? Yeah, yeah. We need our friends.

We need some water, a Gatorade. Maybe even a coconut water. Of course you are. Of course you are. This is an ethical slug song.

Yes. I can't stop lovin' it. You know, I'm a problem lovin' ladies. I just can't stop lovin' them.

The titties. Yes. Smokey has girls fawning at his feet. Yes. She can't stop lovin' him.

I am so lime green jello. I want bitches at my feet just fawning over me. As long as it's not pudding jello. He all can take a little piece of smoky.

He can't stop lovin' you, Smokey. He's got the power for the owl. I love it. Get it, Smokey.

Get it, Smokey. Get it, Smokey. Get it, Smokey. Get it, Smokey.

Get it, Smokey. I know, I got pink high heels. I have black combat boots. They're gonna be blue today.

Shoes. Lay off the blue slay shoes. Okay, already. Yeah, you get off the blue slay shoes.

Yeah, yeah. They're not scotch guarded. I can step on those though, right? Yeah, that's fine.

He's got beads for all the girls. Smokey, make him show me your boobies. Make them show their... Yeah!

Show you boobies for the poor man. He's giving you beads. Coveted. He's working hard.

This is like camp. It's great. I feel like we should have a lighter. We're a joint. Who's got a joint?

We're gonna do bonobo, welcome you. Put those titties out, Smokey. We love the boobies. Yes, all for the boobies.

Man, boobies. Don't fall. Can't help falling in love with you, Smokey. Sounds like a national anthem.

Is this the national anthem? It is. I can't help but fall in love with you. Woo! Get it, Smokey. Get it.

Drop the mic. Smokey, big hand, the Elvis. Drop the mic. Trinium artist.

Get it, Smokey. On the Dr. Susan Block show. The greatest sexuality show on earth. Yeah, it is.

You in here, you haven't had sex. Rock the bag. Can we get a pose off, Smokey? Like, give him some good ones.

With the boobs out. Tits out, Smokey. Tits out. Wait, no. Tits out.

Let's bring back that male sexuality like we were talking about, right? Gotta give it to the ladies. That male sexuality there.

I like female sexuality. Elvis has entered our building. Oh, yes. Are you gonna let him enter your building?

Are you gonna let him hurt his Cadillac in your garage? The room room. Rock in the stage bag. Rock in the stage bag.

Indeed. Is that a hell if it's over? What's a hell? There's no scream freeze.

Smokey, you can sit at my feet, though. You're sweaty. I don't want that in my lap. You can sit at my feet.

You're the one who's trying to get on my stage. Thank you, thank you. There you go. Thank you, Smokey Binion Jr.

for a fabulous performance. Talking to the microphone. Oh, it's deader than you. Yeah, you're right. It's true.

Hello, ladies and gentlemen. It's a pleasure to be here. He needs a water. Can somebody give this poor Jenna water? He just did a show of a lifetime. I would like to say, very quickly.

Dehydrated. If it's okay with Dr. Susan, everybody, I'd like to say to all of you watching my way of Internet radio.

It was a pleasure to be here. I hope I did a good job for everybody. It was a pleasure being back here in Bonoboville. Thank you all very much.

It's a pleasure to get to meet. Well, let's put our hands together and show Smokey what a pleasure it's been to have.

Yay, Smokey, yay. Thank you all much. I'd like to thank all of you guys. Thank you for picking me.

We got you some water. Thank you very much. Thank you. There you go.

Look how sweet you are getting. Right? So getting on his level. Well, he's precious. It's okay. He's a great show.

He needs over here, too. I'll pet you. This could be arranged. Tricks it. It hits a spot.

About to hot to death, man. You could pour it over your head if you want, Smokey. Do what? If you want to pour the water over your head.

If somebody did, I'd give them a hug. I wouldn't give a damn who it was. Darn, I mean. Are you serious?

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. You want it on your head? It doesn't matter. He poured down my back. I wouldn't care.

Get him all wet, Dr. Suzy. Oh, Dr. Suzy, look at you. Get him dripping wet, Dr. Suzy. Is that a hunk of burning love?

He is a hunk of burning love. Who's good? I think we need more. He's so moist.

Look at him. He's just wet all over. It feels good. Thank you very much. You can hold on to the mic.

I have my mic. With your sexy radio voice, Dr. Suzy. I was doing my fan voice earlier. First I was doing my interview voice.

Because I was interviewing a famous wonderful author. Ethical slut. She is amazing.

Is there a microphone over there? Yeah, you can sit over there. Go sit in this chair. Let's bring you a chair, Smoky.

Do you need some assistance? Okay, you're good. All right. Go sit down, Smoky.

Yeah, but we have to have him closer. I can't have him all the way over there. Can we have some help? I can go back to the bar.

Smoky can come sit where I'm sitting. No, no, no. You're part of this. I know, but my wine is waiting for me.

You're part of this now. We're going to do a Bonoboville Communion. You haven't been here in months. I haven't. I'll even pull my titty out for you, Dr. Suzy.

Ooh. Oh, shit. I said it. Now I have to commit. You know, this is important.

We need... Listen to Sky. Sky, can someone please give her a microphone?

Say it again. Sky needs a microphone. I want to hear it. Or what? I'm never here

and I'm going to pull a titty out. Okay, Chelsea is going to get the word

from the audience. Yes, ladies. What do you want? We wanted to hear what you said.

Communion. Communion. When she says it like that, I feel like I'm in church.

But it is a kind of church of Bonoboville. And this is a ritual that we do

here, Smokey. You remember this. Talking to your microphone. Not into your water. Should I pour the water on that?

Water amplifies. So this is a ritual that we do here in Bonoboville. And you were here before

and you kind of participated. I did what? You kind of participated.

Yes, I did kind of participate. I recall I did. Do I get to do that again? Maybe.

You're a good boy. We all must be good boys. You know that male sexual energy. You've got to contain it.

I like to keep them in boxes. We love them. That's just me. All right.

So the drinks of choice are Ron to Jeremy Rums speaking of ethical sluts. He's certainly a slut.

Look at him looking like Jesus on the bottle. He does. He looks a little, I thought it was like ethical slut

with the mumps. He does kind of look like he has the mumps. Are they ethical sluts?

I wanted to ask Janet about all these different people. Personal experience is not an ethical slut. No, exactly.

I agree because he puts down masturbation. He does more than that. And he also said that no one else is not as allowed to use relove ocean.

Right. I remember seeing that in the press. I don't know if you want to talk about what else he's done.

He's done some very naughty things. I know firsthand. Okay. Is that ethical?

It's ethical that I don't say. That is very ethical that you don't say. High five for morals. Yeah.

I think considering we don't want to give it much time we'll just let people wonder and look it up on the internet. I think they might find it there.

If you don't know, Google knows. And you can look up. There's a whole section on Elvis. There is.

You know called slutty Elvis. Okay. I ain't nothing but a hound dog. Yeah.

Well, you look up the word slut and Elvis and you get like tremendous amount of stuff here. Okay. So we're going to do the double bill communion.

You want to get it ready while I'm looking up slutty Elvis tips. Elvis Presley is the king of rock and roll. There's little argument on that matter, but he did love women.

And yes, Elvis Presley was a slut. He should never have married because he could not live the type of lifestyle marriage requires. Well, I would disagree.

You could have an open marriage. This is true. Okay. Elvis was a good man and just because he slept with a lot of women does not take that away from him.

I don't see the big deal. Really, I love him no matter what. And I have loved him since I was nine years old. Okay.

We'll see. I agree with all of that. Elvis, you know, except the part about he shouldn't have married. Although I don't know.

I mean, you know, people can marry and divorce. There's nothing wrong with divorce. I'm divorced. I love being divorced. You're divorced. All right. It's okay.

Then somebody says, no, Elvis was not a slut. If you really look at him, the stories that he was a slut don't hold water. It is rumored that Elvis slept with over a thousand women

in his life. Fuck. I want to be like Elvis when I grow up. If that is true, he is up there with Wilt Chamberlain. Yeah.

I guess when he was young, all those women throwing himself at him was fun for him. Who could blame him? After all, he was a male.

I don't know. Some females might go for that too. But we're about to do the Bonoboville communion. You don't really know how many women Elvis slept with.

Only women are called sluts. I don't believe Elvis was the perverted type. Yeah, right. Did you see how he pelvic thrusts?

The pelvic thrusts, right. That's not perverted though. That's beauty. He was a super freak. That's beauty.

I feel like Elvis was probably in the BDSM a little bit. And there's this book that came out a little bit ago.

Just a few months ago. It's called Elvis Presley. Yes, yes.

Okay. A Southern Tale or something like that. Anyway. A Southern Life

by Joel Williamson. Was Elvis a slut? But Joel Williamson says Elvis certainly was a slut.

Not always ethical. Gun collector. We don't like that. Priscilla Cusum of Spousal Rape. We don't like that. Plus he had a virgin fetish.

That's a problem. But you know the best thing he did was perform. When Elvis stepped out on the public stage

in the mid-1950s with his first hit song Heart Break Hotel. He became the subject of unprecedented lust and sexual desire

by young women. Because nothing gets a vagina throbbing like a broken heart. And you know, we appreciate Elvis kind of like a Hitachi, right?

Gets the vagina throbbing. All right. So do we have our liquors of choice? Okay. He's drinking.

She poured you a special drink. Your special drink. It's your special drink. Did you want your special drink?

Okay. Not quailudes. I'll tell you that right now. Don't want to make you a lewd dude.

All right. Looks like we're going into overtime here. Yeah. Okay. Oh, thanks, Dolly.

Oh, and is this Ron to Jeremy Rum? He is a slut from the slut community of the porn world, which we didn't really talk about. Is there like porn sluts?

Of course. Okay, so is a porn slut somebody who just likes to fuck even like off camera? Yes, I would say that would be a porn slut

as they do it both for money and not for money. Okay. So they just fucking to fuck. You know, they enjoy it. They enjoy it and sometimes they get paid for it

because they maybe don't know how to do anything else. Like a bystander like, oh, you fucked me. I guess I should give you money. All right. We have got to move along

with this because we're running out of time. So, you know what? Trixie plenty. What's up, Dr. Seuss?

I need to take mine first because you guys have been at the bar. I have been at the bar. And I have not.

All I've been doing is drinking water out of a little penis straw. So since it's the end of the show, I dibs. I catch dibs here.

You do have dibs? Yeah. I mean, we talked about orgies. Orgies don't have to be fucking. Orgies can simply be

a little round of Bonoboville communion. Okay, so here we go. Trixie plenty. What's your area of choice?

A nipple, of course. I'm going to lube up my nips with some cannabis. Lube up your nips.

Oh! With the cannabally. You know what? That's not a bad idea. I kind of, you know, that's very clever.

It happens we have Jux Lee here who is a multi-talented person, photographer.

As well as leather maker and yes, cannabally concoctor.

Oh, you're doing everything. You're combining with the salt. This is interesting, okay? Cannabally

cannabis infused coconut oil. Yes, please. Amazing. Right?

Your hat's black with blocking the shot. I kind of like that. I'll talk to Susie. It's a little too much salt, but it's good.

Definitely the cannabally makes it even better than it would be. Get your dibs on the nips. You want some nips? I got some nips for you.

You know what? The other one might be Cheers. To Smokey. Thank you guys.

All right. And who's next? Well... Other side's jealous.

I'll pop it out for you, baby. Going from the former producer Trixie plenty of the Dr. Susan

block show to the current producer Biz. You know, I feel like that's only right. It is a right.

It's not only a R-I-G-H-T. It's an R-I-T-E. A right. I'm passing the baton

via nip. To me it's my right and my right. Watch carefully,

Smokey. Elvis was rumored to be a boyer actually.

Elvis was said to enjoy watching two ladies together. Were they virgins?

The virgin thing is a little tough, even for Elvis to pull off. Right, right. It really is.

You ruin it after a short period of time. There we go. Thank you, thank you. Let's hear it for Trixie Plenty's boobies.

Yummy. Butter. Wait, coconut oil. Coconut oil.

Salted coconut oil. Go ahead and clean that up. That's all you. Go ahead.

That's nice. I love my life. Luscious. They're not big enough to actually hold it.

I like how you pretended to hold it there. That made me feel good because in my head they're like the size of Dolly Parton's. Fuck yeah.

Oh, look at that. They are big enough. Very nice. Thank you.

Can I get a baby wipe or something? Yeah, and it's a little bit of stuff here. Yeah, there is one of those baby wipes under there. I know we have one more round,

but I just wanted to, you know, clean them off. Yeah. Well, we have Chelsea. Dooby-dooby-doo.

Dooby-dooby-doo. Max, you, of course, have a certain feeling about Elvis. Would you like to express that?

My feelings for Elvis. Yes. My feelings for Elvis. My feelings for Elvis.

Well, you know, when I was a young man, I lived in Italy and I was 16 years old

and I lived with a 35-year-old woman who introduced me to the theater, the vaudeville theater

or variety theater, as you might call it. And I started

to do imitations of Elvis and I had lots of hair and I had a ducktail and sideburns.

Like Smoky. Yeah, just like Smoky. And I used to do Jerry Lee Lewis if we went to a theater when they had a piano.

Most theaters had a piano. Beautiful. But I used to hang out with all the Italian rock stars. Little Tony,

Cilentano, Mina. And in fact, my niece reminded me of all those

rockers that I used to hang out with. And all the chorus girls. I had more

sex at 15, 16 and 17 than I did until I married

Dr. Susie. Okay, now other than the fact that you were underage and that is wrong for all those women to be...

You know, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's a whole new concept. That's a whole new concept

that it's wrong. In Europe little boys learn from older women.

Although Elvis preferred to learn from virgins, but that's a different story. I preferred sluts myself.

They know what they're doing, right Max? And as I would travel with the theater we would stop and all these little pensionees

and they're all hookers there. So every morning like here, when I get up at 2 o'clock I would sit down and have breakfast

or lunch with the ladies of the night and listen to all their stories. hey, it affected me. I said, hookers and sluts

when I grow up that's what I'm gonna hang out with. Wait, it's at the bar, hi Max. And that's what you're gonna be

because now men can be sluts. Right, so... There it is. Alright, thank you Max.

And we have a few words about Elvis that smokey. I feel like you covered his entire life

when you went over the book about... January 8, 1935 to August 16, 1977. During his career he starred in 33 movies and three TV specials

1968, Comeback Special 1973, Aloha from Hawaii TV Special and Elvis

something concert in 1977 he had 45 singles that sold over a million copies he had 38 top 10 hits

and 18 number one hits he had 149 songs to appear on billboards, not... 100 pop charts in America

114 of these were in the top 40. This is not my sexy voice by the way. I see, I can tell. You're doing good though. He had 36 gold albums

and 12 platinum albums. They're showing signs. They're flashing numbers. In 2002, the 25th anniversary of his passing

a new album called Elvis 30 number one hits hit number one in 26 territories of the world including America

where it was certified triple platinum he earned three Grammy Awards His 1967 gospel album How Great Thou Art

1971 album He Touched Me and vocal performance of a live performance of How Great Thou Art he is a member of three halls of fame

rock and roll hall of fame country music hall of fame and the gospel music hall of fame a slut is in the gospel music hall of fame

that's not hall of shame even though he is a slut so that kind of puts him in the so does that mean that

the gossip hall of shame but you know hey if you're not if you're not doing something revolutionary

then you wouldn't be in the gossip hall of shame you've got to be a good slut to be talked about somehow and all those singles that he sold

but don't rape anybody unless it's like a fantasy a sleeper, a waker and a waiver

I had all of his 45s by the way that whole speech I gave about Elvis that was given to us by Smoky Binion he's a wealth of knowledge

because he has more facts than Wikipedia I know about Elvis now we do

because all we have to do is call Smoky and be like hey Smoky, Smoky maybe you know how many baby mamas did Elvis have I don't know

I think just Priscilla but he knew all that other stuff he probably had secret baby mamas or maybe he made him get a Smosh Morsha

I think he chose his virgin Mary yeah but he liked until she wasn't a virgin anymore

I'm pretty sure he was not pulling out it's a problem to have the virgin fetish because you can't keep a relationship going well there's the Madonna horse thing

oh of course it's also quite bloody yeah well to keep going after virgins

question a lot of grapes in Italy huh Max to his defense he wasn't always after virgins he's just like girls that look virgin null

right we had a bunch of teenage girls that used to like to have pillow fights and tickle contests with him and he did a lot of foreplay

they called him the king of foreplay so that makes him kind of an ethical slut because he didn't always go for the intercourse he wasn't

really so into that you know sometimes you just need to lay back and lick a puss or two you know I think he was good at that I heard he was very good at that

or at least watch it go down you know I love watching people lick puss puss right watch going down

look at you so funny going down I'm in the right position too so watch out and is there anything else you want to say

about Elvis he was amazing he was a great performer that gave his heart and soul on stage

for the people like you did Smokey well thank you as in front of a good audience and I was getting everything I had just for you guys

thank you we appreciate your giving of your feeling your energy

well thank you very much channeling Elvis for us well don't take too long or you'll miss Bonoboville Communion

why did you guys put that on camera really it was a pleasure to be here I saw a really cool show here a while back

it was back in January it was called the Million Dollar Quartet since we're running short on time I've read this very fast he got his start at Sun Records

in 1954 went on to RCA along about 1955 or 1956 and had of course our break hotel

and all the other hits that y'all know him by but there was two other artists who became icons in their own right Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash

and after Elvis went to RCA when he came back for a visit and Carl Perkins was having a recording session

and Jerry Lee was at that time playing on other people's recording sessions at that time he had not had any hits of his own so Elvis came back for a visit

and they all got together around a piano and Elvis was together around a piano and Jerry Lee and Carl Perkins

and Johnny Cash was right behind him and in this play each guy more or less kind of talked about their career there at Sun and everything

it's a really good show I thought about Dr. Max because the guy that portrayed Jerry Lee in this play this guy could beat that candidate from one end to the other

I mean this guy was fantastic he would have liked Max but it's called the Million Dollar Quartet if you'll get the chance to go see it

it's a really great show I feel like I want to give them a million dollars it's just called the Million Dollar Quartet because that's the million dollars worth of talent right there

and unfortunately all of them are gone except thankfully Jerry Lee is still living here released a new album here a while back back in October called Rock and Roll Time

did you buy the album Smokey? yes, in fact I bought a copy and I sent a copy to Max right on, look at you

you just gave me everybody presents just Santa Smokey we just don't know people like this sort of thing and I like to do something to make others happy

and hope you enjoy the album I gave you I will, I'm about to jam out to that that album that I gave you it was Triple Platinum here in the US

all of the Elvis's number one hits I'm about to have like a whole Smokey montage on my way home and by the way, I just want to put out there

that Smokey has a documentary about himself that is on YouTube very compelling

is Google Smokey Binion Jr and you will see his Elvis tribute artistry on YouTube

and also ladies and gentlemen a friend of mine here a while back started a Facebook fan club for me on Facebook and I'm a member

it's up on it's now it's last Christmas it was on the blink but now it's all you gotta do is get on your Facebook page

and type in Smokey Binion Jr fan club you can look me up there I'm already a member baby we're gonna put you on blast tomorrow

thank you very much and also you can look me up on YouTube I'm on YouTube and the internet stuff is great

but folks you still gotta do it the old fashioned way and you gotta show up and play the gig that's right we get to show up on time by the way that goes for performing

and ethical sludgery show up and put out yeah speaking of which you didn't get your bonoboville communion

I took it on the side but I did not lick a titty I will happily lick a titty I have to drink that stuff again

cause I'd rather drink dirty tequila well there you go she's ready to switch to the dirty stuff that was intense

this is like it's smooth but it's like Ron Jeremy is like hitting harder than Sailor Jerry a little bit

some vanilla tones oh yeah are you gonna break down are you like a rum so many eggs no no I was just offering my vanilla tones

I'll take your vanilla tones Sunny there we go there we go I'm lost

she had to be there she had the communion yeah that's what I was saying offering her vanilla tones

bitch pull out your titty your flavor several vanilla tones around here they're little I want tickle bitties in my face

just like you smokey shit most people do it right I'm all about the tickle bitties look at those

look at those bad boys let me get you all cannabinoid up there we go lay in my lap baby

looks like they're rising up out of the jungle with that jungle print they're calling my name they're rising up out of the jungle

and she is wiping her cannabally cannabis infused coconut oil thoroughly lubricated

for science if I'm gonna do it there's no latex involved so it's all perfectly good

and salt there's a lot of you like salt no MSG though no MSG

um here you go wait a minute oh here we go

teamwork doctor sweetie switch it up I went from whiskey to rum to wine

back to tequila here I'll hold this oops okay

here she goes Trixie Plenty taking her bonobo ville communion off of

biz bonobo mm-hmm let's hear some slurping sounds

yummy yummy and she has communed she has communed I guess she has

absolutely and she's so thoughtful she's handy wiping it up that's what we call

ethical sluttery you clean up after yourself clean up after yourself I'm a lady

so who else wants bonoboville communion can you see his face? can somebody please

now I know he's not drinking alcohol so what's up it's energy drink he needs to get his pep he is what he's

drink do you want to do bonoboville communion do what you want to suck her titties and take your shot

or not you can suck it off my toe toe bring it on

bring it on I didn't paint my toes I didn't have time I'm sorry toes are not painted are they clean they are clean

he doesn't care if they're not painted they've got cute little socks I always have fun socks my sock game is on fleek

okay so bonoboville communion come over here crawling your knees smoky two minutes

okay we gotta move along cause we only have three more minutes here it goes suck that toe

suck that toe bitch suck that toe bitch oh my god he is quite the

romantical toe sucker jesus mary and joseph what the fuck are you doing to my toes sir isn't it good

jesus jesus criminy wipe my toe off after you slathered all over it

you did that shit you did it very well yeah he did a good job fuck yeah

you're probably the best he got a little extra lick he did he gets his licks in

gets his licks in in my boot there's a snake in my boot alright brothers and sisters lovers and sinners

we are almost out of time so we want to thank tricksy it's inside out bitch tricksy I know you gotta get your socks

on right but how do we find you oh you can find me on facebook slash tricksy dot plenty alright

like the candy bar and thank you chelsea bonobo you didn't get to do bonobo vocum union but we only have three more minutes

but thank you webcam and phone at the doctor's and block institute okay

and biz bonobo also a therapist and producer of this crazy show call me biz bonobo is handling it

and smoky binyin find him on youtube and his facebook fan page and on bonobo bill he is on bonobo

bill brothers and sisters I will be and don't forget to pick up a copy of the ethical slut

you can order it you know buy that get it follow it learn it yeah and you know then the

bonobo way right okay make like bonobos not baboons making like bonobos is all about being an ethical slut and the best part

of elvis that twerking you know which is by the way we're going to get a twerking twerking but yeah we're getting the twerking but

we are yes fuck yeah I want to fuck your twerking but with my eyes yeah totally yeah top go yeah absolutely

you need to porn hub wherever okay and so we're we got to go make like bonobos not baboons make love not war make love to someone you

love tonight even if that someone is you I love you we love you and we sure love you you can talk to us

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