Poly On Wry

Full transcript of Poly On Wry on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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Yes, indeed, brothers and sisters, lovers, artists and exhibitionists, voyeurs and connoisseurs. Polyamorous and non-monogamous, alt, relationship, artists, music lovers, sideshow, appreciators, dating freaks, husbands and wives, all you children of sex, and we are all children of sex. I mean, we may or may not be children of God,

Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Brahma, or the great snake in the sky. We don't know, but we do know on a certain sort of scientific level, we are all children of sex. Can I hear an A, women? I want to welcome you to Bonoboville, the Dr. Susan Block show in the Speakeasy Cathedral, broadcasting live from Bonoboville, the garden of Eden with my

snake Eve, who's still a little bit shedding, but she loves you and she had to be with you and me, at least the way I interpret her. Movements in the cage, I want to get out and party like a Bonobo. So we're here tonight, brothers and sisters, in the heat of a Bonobo summer of love, and tonight I'm excited to talk about

relationships, non-conventional relationships. With a twist, Polly on Rye, hold the male, maybe not the KY, depending. We prefer cannabelli for lubrication, but you know, there's all different kinds of lubrication, including conversation, is definitely an important lubrication, especially when it comes to the negotiation

of all these different types of relationships. I believe one term for that is according to Ken Haslam, who did some library work at the Kinsey Institute, designer relationships. We design our relationships, which is a lot of freedom, and freedom is the greatest aphrodisiac, but restraint is a close

second. So, sometimes all of us freedom lovers love to be restrained, and sometimes we're just confused because there's so many choices. So tonight we have some experts, and I'm so excited to have a kind of Polly group here. I'm not sure how to describe the group, but I will first introduce non-monogamy

educator and alt-relationships expert, Rye Mantione. So come over to my broadcast bed, Mantione. Rye, a Rye perspective we're going to get tonight. I am doing great, a little hot, but that's a good sign. You're always a little hot.

Thank you, Rye. And they say you're a contrarian. Test, test. Or that's what it says on your Twitter. I say I'm not a contrarian.

But that's already kind of contrary. Yeah, but cute. All right, very cute. So you are an educator in regards to this wilderness of designer relationships. I've been hosting discussion groups for about the last three and a half years.

Pleasure Chest, Stock Room. Sex Positive LA. Yes. And Kinky Salons.

Yes. Yes, with our friend Polly Superstar. Yes, I'm a co-host of the new LA Kinky Salon, mostly in the fetish area of the event. The fetish area, there's like different side shows like a circus, different areas.

Yeah, Kinky Salon is a lot like a raging dance floor. Like it's a real focus on the dancing. And then over on the side, there's the fetish area. There's a cabaret at midnight.

And there's a full, very naughty room. Naughty room. And that's your room? No, I'm in the fetish area.

You're in the fetish area. Okay, which is not so naughty. Well, let's put it this way. In the naughty room, they're having sex.

Right, sex meaning intercourse. Yes. Yes. Okay, there's many different kinds of sex as we're going to discover.

I mean, we keep discovering all different kinds of sex. Do I have, I think I have a piece of Evie's, you know, do you like snakes? I do. You do?

Now, she's an older snake, but yeah, there we go. She will never hurt you, but I don't know when she pooped last. So just keep her right here and over it this way. Yes, she is an Akita corn snake.

Yeah. Doesn't she put you in a nice mood? Just writhing around your wrist there. I didn't negotiate it.

I mean, I just asked if you like snakes. I do. Yeah, there you go. I put out my hand to receive her.

Very nice. She likes you. I love the two-headed snakes at the zoo. Obsessed with those when I was a kid.

Wow. There's a lot of corn snakes that have two heads. I don't have one. I can, it's enough to deal with the one.

She's getting right into your cuff. Oh, she is. Now she's going to become your trouser snake. Wow.

All right. So Rye, you brought these beautiful ladies with you. Yes. And I would like you to kind of explain them.

Sure. Sure. I know that Wicked, a.k.a. Wicked.

Just Wicked, okay. Is a concert violinist and your girlfriend. Yes. We've been together about three and a half years, and she helps co-host my discussion

events. And we've been on quite the journey. Yes. Well, welcome to Bonoboville, Wicked.

Thank you very much. And moving right along, we're going to hear more from you, but I want to kind of introduce everybody because we have quite a bevy of beauties here starting with you.

Oh. And Nova Luxe, you know, not like the smoked salmon, okay, Luxe, not Luxe, okay. Like lights. Yes, like light, like Luxe at Veritas, my alma mater's motto.

So you are quite a light and you are a sideshow performer specializing in whipped cream wrestling. One of many things, mostly a clowny sideshow performer. Yeah.

Yeah. So, hey there. Do you have a mic or you don't even have one? Oh, yes you do.

You have one in your lap. Oh, it does work. Oh, yes. I thought that was your trouser snake for a second.

Okay. Yeah. She's been performing at the Magic Castle recently. Oh, right.

Nice. Very nice. Yes, I was. Well, welcome Nova.

Thank you. And now we have Erin. Oh, Nova is a girlfriend too. Yes.

Your girlfriend. Yes, I've been with Wicked about three and a half years and Nova and I had a first year anniversary a few months ago. Wow.

And are they girlfriends too? Are you girlfriends? No. You are friends, but not girlfriend.

This would be a V relationship with me at the pivot. But they have other relationships as well beyond me. A V relationship. Is that your design or is that a thing?

It's pretty well known. Yeah. It's not mine. I mean, you can take any letter.

It could be a W for like if you had five people involved or whatever shape. Could be a square. Could be a triangle. Could be an N.

An N. An N. So every letter of the alphabet could be a relationship, it sounds like. That sounds like a challenge.

I think so. We should try to figure out every letter. It's a geeky thing to do for you. The geek polyamorous, yeah.

Geekier would be calling it a polycule inspired by a molecule. Okay. Where each person has different. A geek would renounce the term polyamory to begin with.

Ah. Because they come from different roots. The two parts of the word come from different roots. It's a little joke.

Latin and Greek. Latin and Greek, yeah. Well, you do call yourself a non-monogamy educator. Which is kind of, you know, kind of a negative definition.

Just not monogamy. Yeah. Well, it's more open because it includes swingers. It includes open relationships.

Open relationships. It includes everything in addition to just purely polyamory, which is a specific culture within non-monogamy. And I would like to give a shout out to that old book that was

written in 1972 called Open Marriage. Which was kind of dissed in the 90s. And now it's really, you know, kind of a playbook. I mean, and it didn't even hardly mention sex, actually.

It was mostly just about communicating and just being open. And yet, you know, the paragraph that everybody talked about was the part about it. And you might be able to have sex with other people.

Maybe. Yes. And then there's dating. Which is related to sex sometimes.

And maybe not. I mean, there's all the asexual people who need to date, right? Yep. True.

Yeah. So this is Erin. Hi. Hi, everybody.

Erin, the dating advice girl. This is true. Erin Tillman, aka the dating advice girl. And we actually met.

Yes. Via Wicked's other guy. We went to dinner. Oh, yes.

That's right. The three of us went to dinner. It was supposed to be just me and him. But you tagged along.

That's right. And we've been. Lunch, lunch, and Chinatown. Yeah.

A late lunch. It's true. True story. About a year and a half ago.

And look at this now. You know? Yes. Wow.

Small incestuous world. Oh, boy. Uh-oh. They're already crossing taboos.

No, they're not. They're not related that way. But they are kind of a family. No, not really.

You're just kind of intersecting. Well, to be clear, I am not involved romantically with Rai. Right. We're colleagues.

And I've been a dating expert for eight years. Yes. And so, but I'm very curious about the non-monogamy space. And I've learned a lot from Rai and other colleagues of ours.

Well, I imagine some of your dating clients are non-monogamous. More and more. Especially in LA. But a lot of people didn't even know that was an option.

Because we grow up in a society where we're kind of taught that, oh, marriage, one person forever. And so people don't know that there's all these different things. So I try to help educate people and help them find people who also

might be into the same things they're into. Well, all right then. I think Aaron and I are far too alike to be dating. I think you're right, absolutely.

You know, it might be a little dirtier. Oh, yes. But you have better cleavage. Thank you very much.

OK. Well, we don't see yours. Your tie is hiding yours. So question, does anyone else really like reptiles?

I would love to hold the snake. Would you like to come and hold the snake before I put her away? Because I am going to put her away. Because she's kind of in a shetty mood.

Oh, a shetty mood. Yeah. Well, you know, she was a little neurotic this month. Sometimes she sheds all in a piece when all is good.

But, you know, I think she got somewhat neurotic from the heat. So she sheds in pieces. But she looks beautiful just slithering around your arms. These are the arms of a violinist holding my snake.

So beautifully holding her like she is an instrument and shouldn't the body of anyone you hold be your instrument that you play on. What's her name?

Her name is Eve. Yes. Eve. Open the garden to Eve.

Whoa. Careful. There we go. There she is.

OK. Here, let's get. OK. Yeah, you do kind of seem like you're going to play or something.

I play a lot of people. Do you serenade, rye? Once in a blue moon I do. Ah, he has to deserve it.

How did you meet? Oh, there's a story. Go ahead and tell it. Well, there was a band, an EDM band in LA.

It had about eight members in the band and they decided to have a music video shoot. And so they all invited everybody they knew to come to the music video shoot.

I knew one of the guys in the band. Rye knew a different guy in the band. The problem was that this music video shoot ended up being on Easter Sunday.

OK. And not a whole lot of people showed up. Ah. But Rye showed up and I showed up.

Easter egg hunting, yeah. And then Rye likes to take over the story after that. Take it away. Well, these eight guys in the band were,

none of them were Christians, that's for sure, and they just didn't realize it was Easter. So only about 17 people arrived. And so I realized, I want this girl

and I've got all day to talk to her. So I'm going to approach her cautiously and my very first words were, do you know if there's any more chips?

Real light at first. Yes, yes, yes. Very nice. Well, not like a bunny, even though it was Easter.

OK. But it certainly, one thing led to another. One chip led to a dip. And the next weekend was my big fucking party.

Oh, OK. I hosted the big fucking party six this year. The big fucking party. Is there a lot of fucking that goes on?

There's some. It's big. There was 700 people this year. Wow.

And a lot of them are fucking? Some of them are. Yes. It's a wide range.

It's basically like everything I love in life all in one night. Ah. It's the best night of the year for me. Awesome.

And that was the second time I'd ever seen him. Was he invited me to the party the day that we met and the second time I'd ever laid eyes on him was at the big fucking party.

The day? Well, but it was a couple weeks later. It was one week. Exactly.

OK. And did you get all dressed up sexy? I did. You know, I went to this party for the sole purpose

of deciding if I liked him or not. And did you have sex that night? It depends on what kind of sex you're talking about. Well, what did you do?

I had sex with her mouth. OK. OK. Well, there's a reason.

That's a sex. There's a reason. There's a card game that we play at the party and your goal is to get the highest card possible

and the way you get a higher card is to complete a dare given by someone who has this higher card. And so at a certain point, I decided, oh, yeah, OK.

I like him. So, and then my next thought was, I want his ace. So I told him that I wanted his ace. And so his dare for me was to give him a blow job.

Backstage. OK. Quite a dare. Clever.

Clever. So I acquiesced. Ah, acquiesced. Yes.

Nice graceful choice of words. Thank you very much. Uh-huh. And you did an arabesque of a blow job.

I guess. I gave him a blow job and then I immediately left because I wanted to keep the ace. And as she stood up to finish in my drunken stupor

at my big fucking party, I just want to let you know that I want to go on a date with you. Doesn't have to stop here. And I said, OK.

And he goes, no, seriously. Seriously. I don't do one night stands. I want to go on a date with you.

And I said, OK, I heard you. Intimacy. And then we did. At a big fucking party.

All right. And it started with chips. OK. That's what it did.

It did. Uh-huh. Into a mouth. And beautiful.

OK. And so Nova. I mean, I have to. I feel like I need to find out how you met.

Of course. You want to come up here? Make a little room. Here she is.

Whoa, don't trip over the wires. Yes. Well, although I imagine you being a clown, you know how to fall.

You're a good follower. I'm a good follower. I do it all the time. Yes.

I can imagine. I can imagine by myself. Uh-huh. How did you become a clown?

Uh, it's a long story. But my mom was a clown. Oh, OK. She runs in the family.

Yeah. But at first I refused. Yeah. I was like, you know, as a kid, it was like, it was terrible.

I would get on the bus and all the kids would make fun of me. Your mom's a clown. Yeah, pretty much. Oh, God.

They had a whole song. My mom's clown name was Marilyn Macaroni. And I'd get on the bus and they would all sing, Marilyn Macaroni.

Di-dli-dli-dli-dli-dli-dli-di full of baloney. Deep for hours. Full of baloney. Yeah.

Oh, that's the part that hurt. OK. But so I started doing children's birthday parties with her, but I would not be a clown.

I would only be Tina the ballerina. So I did that for a long time. And then in college I was like, OK, I can make more money as an actual clown instead of a ballerina.

So I'll do that I'll be a clown the first time I was ever a clown I was 18 And I remember putting the makeup on my face and being like I can't believe I'm doing this that was a couple years ago Right, it was ten years ago. Oh But and then my makeup was finished and I was like I look like my mother and it's weird

But when I start y'all all have that thing we go through I look like my mother but most of us It's not with clown face on it's true But the first time I really loved being a clown I went to Cal Arts and they have a clothing optional campus

Completely like wow how you doing with Evie here. Are you ready to give her up? Yeah. Yeah, yeah Okay, okay, so where is her cage brothers? Oh, there it is. Hey, can you bring that over? I'm yeah, that's it All right. Bye everybody. Do you want to just say goodbye? Are you afraid of reptiles? No, I love them. Oh really? Do you want to hold her for a minute? No, no, no. Okay. Okay. I don't want any timidity on my snake

Okay, and there she goes She can come out in the after-party Yes Lovely Elizabeth our producer

Biz Bonobo Yes Let's see that short skirt girl Oh

So where were we? Clowning around so the first time I ever enjoyed being a clown I decided to be like my interpretation of a sexy clown. Uh-huh. So I just was a clown I was wearing nipple pasties and a tutu but at that time in my life that was like super racy for me

I was like I'm gonna go in front of people with like nothing but like my nipples covered like at that point in my life It was like this is wild and so I did that And it was the most attractive I've ever felt in my entire life. I have you look very attractive in nipple pasties in a tutu I have a picture like that of you that you posted on your page and I just put it up on mine

So yeah nipple pasties in a tutu. Yeah, you look perfect. I mean you look great now, but honestly, yeah I mean, I'd prefer the other one. Yeah Pasties we can come up with anyway, so how did you two meet or yeah, we originally met At a house party about five years ago, but we were on dates with other people that night

We ended up slowly staying in touch for years and then we were all part of a Don't mind me. I'm just grabbing my baby cock. I feel there's a purpose for every size Anyway, as I was saying and then we were part of a theater production together and Opportunity struck for me to strike up a conversation. Oh

Nice, okay opportunity and was it about chips? Yeah, it was actually about children's parties Oh, I used to work at children's parties as well as a clown. No, I did balloon animals Okay, I did the magic bubble show. Okay, and that's actually how he got my number I see really clown stuff though, right?

Yeah, maybe because of me silly occasions at my birthday party Everyone is clowns. Okay, and I offered to teach her the secrets of doing the magic bubble show So I was leaving and he was like, hey, let me get your number for the magic bubble show Yeah, okay

Are you taking notes on this for your clients? Absolutely how to how to pick up lots of skills I'm hearing lots of skills. Right. There you go. This is all about dating come a little closer I don't know if you can get on the bed, but come into the maybe you can Should we make room? We could we could or you could come on this side here here here here

Can I bring my drink? Yeah comfy comfy. Yeah, bring your drink Soon we're gonna have Bonoboville communion and I know you're going to appreciate it because you almost became a priest Yes when you were young years ago and you're still a preacher But using a different book as you said very different doctrine very very different book

But still there's you know something similar involved. I I think the extremeness of Celebusy push the pendulum to the other side of yes a very active non-celebusy I think you might have done well as a priest in like Pope Alexander's day when there were lots of you know kind of

wives and concubines for the Pope and his top priests and you know and There was a lot of that. I mean it they also had a lot of murder in mayhem It wasn't a great time But it was you know kind of a time when there was almost poly or swinging in the Vatican. I would say yes max

No, no, I was agreeing. Yes. Actually. I lived in a little village in Italy. Yes one of the few villages that didn't have customs But it had a little port and so forth and there was a church there the local church with 24 bedrooms The local church the local church with 24 bedrooms and at night time they would bring in the liquor for the Vatican and

Other things would be brought in to fill those rooms. Yes, and so The village people would go see the lights all on and everybody's having fun and they'd go. Oh

The hookers are here Yes, yes, yes. Well, you know, there's there's sex in every culture in every Every corner of the world of some sort, you know, I mean aside from the asexuals But that's the kind of sexuality too, but certainly all these priests. I mean but the essence of that

I guess would be you know hypocrisy shame Pretending and stuff like that and I mean I'm not trying to say that that's the worst thing in the world, but hey, it's kind of cool to have a church of No hypocrisy or trying to be honest, right trying to be honest about your relationships and that I think is the essence of this church here this

Non-monogamy which isn't really a church, of course Honesty is one of the main points of being non-monogamous Successfully and ethically, but how easy is it? It's definitely a learned practice It's not something that you go in just automatically knowing how to do because religions just give up on it

They just make up stories Well, you know when you first well, I don't know when I when I first started it took it took a lot of time and a lot of different scenarios where I'm

trying really hard to say exactly what I mean and You know, I would I would sort of shy away and and go to euphemisms and and you know Like dumbed-down versions of what I was really trying to say until I eventually learned to say exactly what I meant Exactly what I wanted. It's something that you learn to do

Well, and I think a lot of people aren't really sure what they want, you know Like I said before I mean there's there's so many things We don't know that are even possible in terms of dating or relationships because we only learn one model I do some speaking at colleges and a lot of the college kids a they have like probably have never heard of real

Consent and what that means a lot of them are afraid to say no or don't really know what no means or no means Yes, there was a video recently that went viral. It was like a fraternity that was saying yes or no means anal Oh, yeah, yeah, that went on it Yale I hate to say this because it's my beloved alma mater and I might even be going to reunion

But it is so fucking, you know, like it's not it's the opposite of the big fucking party fucking embarrassing That you know that went on it Yale And I want to say that it had nothing to do with sex week at Yale Which I helped to found but sex week at Yale was blamed

But it was all about just a bunch of jocks Okay, who were drunk and and really didn't like the women's Center at Yale and thought they would be Obnoxious and of course there's a male privilege at Yale that has allowed guys like that to get away with it for

centuries so they did it and and they got a slap I guess and then Yale got slapped with some really bad press and then Kind of

Let's just say castrated sex week at Yale. Oh, really sad. Yes. Yes. It's just shame It's like I mean, you know one bad apple ruins the bunch But I mean it is a big deal and you know, especially for young kids like they they're so learning It might be the first time they're away from home and they have no idea what's happening

So, you know shame is a big part of all this It's just important that everyone's educated and has is aware of choices that they could make Yeah, yeah, and you know, of course sex week at Yale was and and maybe will still be An educational, you know week in which to learn about different types of relationships in which to learn about consent in which to

just explore all this stuff that helps you to not march in parades saying yes means no no means anal and It really does it helps you because if you don't learn not to do that You learn to do that from other places if you're a privileged young man at Yale, obviously, that's what happened

So it's it's it's sad, but I have hope I have hope for my alma mater I think we have a new president and and things will get better. Yes max. I hear you clearing your throat No, no, I'm just laughing Well anyways, so okay

So, yeah, we're all for education and and certainly when it comes to these designer relationships Yeah, you need them I mean one thing that max and I who I mean we're kind of what I like to call You know the Dan Savage word monogamish, but we were in awe of you guys having these intimate several intimate

Relationships going on because you know, we might do this and that but the intimacy. I mean, how do you? How do you schedule all that? Scheduling and jealousy are the two most common questions. We're gonna get to the jealousy. Yes, the scheduling to me is even more Challenging I practice what I call a solo poly style. Yeah, where I am extremely independent

I am not defined by my partners or my relationships I can be polyamorous as a single man or in multiple relationships or in one relationship and I live alone. I'll always live alone. I have no kids. I'll never have kids. I'm not married never been married never will be And so I literally schedule when people come over to my place or I go to theirs

They invite me to theirs. We go out to events together I think that there is a whole world of complications when Partners live together because you have to share those spaces. That's my space and I can invite anyone I want into that space You're like a the uber bachelor

Because I'm not single right right, you're definitely connected to these women. I mean, and are you so how do I mean? Do you have other boyfriends or another girlfriend or I do have another boyfriend? Okay other people I see casually and I guess he knows about right. Yeah, they all do. Okay. They all know about each other. Yeah, but they don't have sex Ryan other men. Well, Ryan your boyfriend. No, I don't know. No, not okay. We were actually friends

before they started dating true and I Help them like hey, this is you go ahead do this actually. He really helped a lot. It was the sweetest thing ever. I Was I'm like pretty shy, you know And he was like over there on the internet like sending messages like hey Nova is into you and he's like what a hell no idea

That is the nicest thing. I'm like, I just really care like it's so sweet, you know Like I was into this guy and he helped he helped it happen, which I think is super sweet. Oh Well last year. Yeah, I helped wicked with a contest Hosted on Facebook called win your first date with wicked

I don't know about this. Oh, you didn't hear about that. Oh, wow. Tell me Yeah, one There was a there was a guy who what is he from Australia or New Zealand? Yeah, I think so. Would you get a date with him? You know, I actually haven't gone on the date with him

the contest was People had to comment on the event page with their best idea for a first date with me. Oh And I like that. Yeah, and and then I got to pick whichever date was the best idea Okay, so the guy who actually won he was actually out of the country

During this contest and he was gonna be out of the country for a long time. It was an extended state and so He has recently come back to the US so that date actually is going to happen months and months and months after What was his date idea? What was it? I I have an idea. Oh

I was like a date with her all you got to do is come up with an idea Oh This idea has to win though, that's the thing it can't just be just like oh it's in a movie I've never had an unwinding idea ever. It does sound like she's open

Yeah, that that that's why I chimed in I was like this seems like a Invitation we're all open we we actively practice an open poly style as opposed to say a closed triad Which we are not is that event page still open as well It's out there somewhere

We actually picked a winner and a runner-up What does the runner-up get the runner-up was What does the runner-up get to do a date as well the runner-up yeah We were we decided that the winner could get a date and the runner-up could get a date because you know

Why not there's come up with a date why not I like the end of the show, okay? Yeah Yeah, what about the loser? The loser is still a loser the loser I guess might get ridiculed for his horrible date idea, which

That never happens that never happened. There was some very mundane date ideas Unfortunately creativity is important Definitely, I helped Nova with her previous guy as well You

Remember that yeah, you need a little advice on how to flirt with him It's strange also. I feel like The whole social media and how we communicate now and navigating all of that stuff and then me being a Submissive female who wants to be pursued but sees someone that I want like that's difficult

That's a challenge help me with that too. I like I Literally followed like step-by-step. I was like, what do I do and he told me to do and I did it and I was like, okay I did that now I do he's like no do this and I was like Seriously like that and he's like trust me

So you're an educator even with your girlfriends. Yeah, I don't know about the others with me a lot I ask him all sorts of things although it sounds like we could give you a little education at your big fucking party But yeah, so how about the jealousy? What what's the story? I mean are you jealous of each other's time on the show or are you? Jealous of each other's time with rye or what? No, but I am

There you go jealousy rears jealousy comes up Jelly jealousy comes up in in all aspects of everyone's life Whether they want to admit it or not You become jealous of lots of people. You're let's see. Does anyone not want to admit it

Does anyone want to say they're never jealous or they're just hard people out here there who do who do say that? No one on the bed I'm always surprised by my jealousy and my envy like oh where the hell did that come from what it's something so Unexpected so minor so just like it all handled just some little thing will get to me

Uh-huh like the big things usually don't bug me at all like what got to you There was a time when a good friend of mine Took wicked out to lunch and didn't run it past me and she didn't run it past me And she didn't realize it was a date till he tried to kiss her and then she realized oh shit

I'm going on a date with rye's friend And I was just like surprised that both of them didn't mention it to me And I ended up calling him out on it and I called her out on it And we all got upset and we all chilled out because it was just this minor little thing

That was it a surprise to him to your mistake was that you called her out on it You don't know that now you have to text her out on it No, it was a long all night conversation Yes, that's the conversation the art joke right there

Old school style face to face We don't we don't we don't talk in the we're horrible on the phone I have a question Question, Max

None of you are on the hacked Ashley Madison site Oh, oh right Never Now maybe the Duggars would take up Polyamory

You know we're on plenty of sites but we don't need to hide anything That's the thing like we don't need to be on Ashley Madison and hide our identities in our faces We're right out there on Okie Cupid and Tinder They don't need to hide or pay

Oh okay so there was one like really really almost terrifying Half an hour where I let rye take control of my Tinder account And let him handle it for half an hour and let him actually swipe right on people and respond to people That was like I said terrifying

Penetrating Penetrating her Tinder box Her Tinder Tinder The trouble with a man seeking a woman who is actively cheating on a site like Ashley Madison

Is that I might get face to face with a shotgun There's real violence potential I would much rather just be honest and take the risk of shame or the risk of rejection Or the risk of somebody being a little weirded out than a shotgun to the face

Well and the difference is I mean people confuse as a yes applause exactly You know people confuse Polyamory with cheating all the time Like as a mainstream I am more of a mainstream dating expert And people are always like polyamory but people don't know

And all these things I'm like no no no the difference is that with polyamory and a lot of open relationships All partners are aware of what's happening and agree with the terms of those scenarios Whereas Ashley Madison is all about cheating Like their tagline is what is it life is short have an affair

That's their tagline so it's all about secrecy with that site It's very very different Yeah you know I imagine that being humans You know sometimes there are people that cheat on polyamorous relationships

Oh yeah There was a devastating situation a friend of mine out of the state actually And they were together for years She had her husband and her boyfriend and just discovered the boyfriend's been cheating on her for years

They have a poly open relationship The main requirement is just admit it That's all he had to do was admit it So admit it how do you feel about Nova?

I think she's looking at me like that I think she's a very sweet girl and she's very patient Are you glad she's Rai's other girlfriend? Yeah there are plenty of people that I would not necessarily want to be part of you know

This part of my life via Rai You know I'm not saying I would never sit up here and say that I'm perfectly fine with anyone You know being a part of my life that's not true at all But I can definitely say that Nova is a perfectly wonderful part of my life via Rai

That's very sweet What an act to follow what are you going to say now? I think Wicked is awesome I also think that in how I put this

I think that she grounds Rai in ways that I don't And I'm like really appreciative of that You're glad she's the other part I'm glad that we're different people and we can offer different things and that affects Rai in more ways than one relationship

Does that make sense? In relationships you affect each other You inspire each other And I see that from Wicked in her inspiration for him And all of that kind of stuff

We all have many sides of ourselves And one of the things I love most about having multiple relationships Is that it brings out a different part of me And it emphasizes that part of me

Just like we have a work persona and a family persona And your best friend brings out a side of you My different girlfriends bring out different sides of me And I get to really embody that aspect

Who brought out the side of you that wanted to be a priest when you were a kid? Well, my father was hyper-religious but he certainly never encouraged Well, my whole family was very Catholic What do they think of you now?

What do they think of me? Well, some of them think that I'm just the crazy wild bachelor They don't understand any of this They just see me as a single man

Not necessarily, they just see me as the crazy guy in the family Just having a fun time Others actively dislike my lifestyle Because there is a sense that if I encourage the world

To consider all the options That maybe it will ruin some relationships And maybe I'm ruining relationships in the family And some of them just fully accept it

And they just think that as long as I'm honest and myself And everyone is in the know, then what's the problem? They're kind of indifferent Is anyone else poly in your family or non-monogamy?

I don't think so I think some of them have played around with some various forms of non-monogamy throughout their life I think people go through phases Did you grow up with a religion?

Yeah, I grew up Baptist Okay, not Southern Baptist Baptist is still pretty specific I was actually raised part of my childhood

I was raised by my grandmother Who still goes to church three times a week at least So yes, I grew up actually very religious I grew up Catholic

Okay, did you want to be a nun? No, but when I was little, Jesus was a very close imaginary friend I had talked to him all the time But yeah, my family was very religious

Did you still talk to Jesus? No Now you talk to Rai I don't know if I would care

But I guess, you know, we have the picture of the Catholic religion And for that matter, baptism What about you? What did you grow up with? I grew up a pretty open family

Actually, not open-relationship but open-minded Spiritual, not super religious And went to church on Christmas Okay

Sometimes, but now, yeah And now here you are But you guys are into not just poly But also BDSM

Absolutely Absolutely, in what way? I'm actually a pro-sub at a dungeon A pro-sub

Yeah, in LA Okay Yeah, I work at the Dominion And you are a professional submissive

Absolutely And so you get beaten by clients I do My butt's actually just now healing from a session I had a couple days ago

Oh, really? Yeah Can we see? No, there were no physical visual effects from it

But it was sore for a little while But that's just part of the job My little nickname for Wicked Because we do BDSM in our private life

And on stages as well is She's Wicked the Unmarkable I'm apparently very hard to bruise Wow

She used to, she used to bruise You know what it is? If my body's not used to it, then yes, I will bruise So I just spent a month in Italy

Where I was not being beaten And when I came back, he actually did bruise me Which was a rare occasion Naughty boy

That's your priestly inclinations Okay And you are also submissive Yes

And are you a professional submissive as well? No No, you're a professional clown But you enjoy submission in your bedroom

Yes And on stage Yes Okay, so you're a performance submissive

Yes I like your monosyllabic answers Well, I'm typically the leader And sometimes

Can you teach Donald Trump to answer questions like that? Yes, that would be better for him And the rest of us Uh-huh, yes

We're also feminists Yes, what does that mean exactly? We're strong believers in the idea that men and women are equals That they have equal value, equal worth

That's very bonobo And even though we practice a dominant and submissive role in our lives There's nothing inferior about being submissive Yes

And in fact, I'm a total pussy, compared to them I can't take what I dish Absolutely Uh-huh

It's true You seem like you have a little dom in you The way you said that, absolutely I mean, I don't know

It's always possible People are always changing, right? Well, yeah It's always possible for me to become a switch

At a certain point Yeah At the moment, I'm saying no But I'm not saying never

I'm predicting eventually I want to see you dominate that violin In a little while We're going to have some beautiful electric violin

And is it like movement music? Could we have perhaps nova art? Could you move to the music in any fashion you like? I don't expect whipped cream wrestling

Or perhaps, I don't know Whatever kind of... I'm looking to have some type of interaction With the music

So you can think about it You don't have to respond monosyllabic Yes or no answer No

No All right Very submissive Thank you

Nova That's why she's called nova Right She's a trained professional dancer

Yeah But she has to prepare It's not all improvised Oh, okay

Well, I know that Wicked is going to... Is improvising So I thought, you know Some dancers improvise

But, you know That is not... Nothing is required, actually Before we go to our break

I do want to introduce Anthony Wynne Who is over there Come on, come up here

Anthony Wynne is the great Stripparella cartoonist And he is... Can we see what you're drawing?

Oh, awesome It's awesome Actually, there's a piece By...

With Stripparella right there Oh, yeah On the left side of the stage A beautiful, really exquisite piece

We can't see it Okay, there it is There it is There's...

The only person out in here is me Idealized facsimile of myself And Stripparella And that assistant

And a bottle of Agua Speaking of which We will be doing Bonoboville communion very shortly

So, get ready And it's a little different Than Catholic communion But related

Very related How do you identify? I am studying everything I am more dominant

In my life I... You know, yeah I mean, that's the gist of it

For a second, I thought that was a Rachel Dolezal question I don't know why How do you identify? I am a black female

That is true But for real, not for fake For real, real, not for play-play Exactly

But yeah, I mean I've been learning more about Specifically the BDSM community For about the last year

And I'm intrigued by it It's interesting going back To the whole point of submissives For a long time, I didn't understand

Why someone would want to be submissive Because I don't identify as that And especially as a female, I always There's a line for me

In terms of does a woman A female identifying person Really want to be dominated by a man But the more I'm in that world, I get it

And there's definitely a feeling That I've witnessed Female submissives specifically get And actually male submissives get

And as a more dominant woman I enjoy seeing that feeling I actually struggled with similar things Myself being a submissive female

Interesting From a feminist point of view Yeah, absolutely And I am struggling to get to a break

Right now I just have one question But Max, okay, go ahead How do you guys

I mean, I run a little small company We really are running out of time Okay And how do you have all the time to do this?

I tried asking that before And they didn't answer He just said he lives alone One of the ways

Child-free, which is a big part of it Yeah, but you gotta drive here You gotta go there You gotta text people

Are you all child-free? Yes Correct Yeah

Okay, so that's part of it Is they don't have the time sucker I will say this is a lot less My polyamorous relationships have been

A lot less time consuming Than any other monogamous relationship I have Any polyamorous relationship I have Is not gonna be every day

We do everything together All the time, every day All my relationships complain about The girls complain about

Not being time consuming enough They're like, you don't spend enough time with me I mean, monogamous relationships, though I don't know if to ask them

He's the swing and bachelor Okay, so we are going to cut But I just want to Give a little shout-out to

To Ry's proposed gender-neutral term For blowjob Which is, I agree, incredibly meaningless And it is suck-lick

Suck-lick, okay I got a suck-lick last night I was suck-licked last night That guy gives good suck-lick

I want to suck-lick your clit She's one hell of a suck-licker He could have said that about you At the big fucking party

They are suck-licking me right now They, that's, yeah I'll suck-lick the fuck out of you Suck-lick my dick

What do you think? It's better than blowjob, right? There's no blowing, and it's not a job Suck-lick, I like job

No, it can be, it can be, my friend If you're doing it right, it's a lot of work We're going to come back with Controversial things and

Bonoboville communion So don't come yet, and don't go away We'll be right back Hi, I'm Dr. Susan Block

And I've just written a new book called The Bonobo Way, inspired by My love for the make-love-not-war Great apes, you know, the ones who

Have a lot of sex in a Bonobo sutra of positions Including face-to-face But it's not just how

Bonobos have sex It's how they use sex To prevent murder and war, really They're the only great apes

That have never been seen Killing each other They practice what I call Peace through pleasure

With the females gently dominating The very happy, very sexually satisfied males Bonobos are special, partly because They just are, and partly because

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Bonobos can teach us so much Which brings me to us And more specifically to you Is your inner Bonobo longing to

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Eco-sexual movement of our times And improve your love life Since sisters, we are going to have A Sybian ride for

A Sybian ride for So you've never been on a Sybian before? No, I've never been on one before Okay, now you are ready to ascend

The throne Mr. Tracy, you are going to ride God's machine now Put one leg right here

Put the other right here And just position yourself comfortably Put your clip right here Okay, so here she goes

It's mounting Have you ever ridden a Sybian, by the way? Oh, I have, many a time It's my favorite horse to ride

Have Sybian yoga And experience it To the fullest Go for the G-Spot

Go for the clip Go for whatever works It's Rado, riding a Sybian Wow, holy shit

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Live on Dr.Suzi.tv From the womb room in Bonoboville Ride on, cowboy Take a deep breath

Deep breath Oh, relax We never get tired of watching a pretty girl On the Sybian celebrating masturbation month

Yes, I'll burn Hallelujah You're a spirit Sona de matine

Ding-dong Oh, yes Yes, yes Brassist, bassist

Coming, she's with us Brassist, we're gonna come for us That is a beautiful thing Thank you, Dr. Susan Block

You're a wonderful human being You're a wonderful human being Dr. Susan Block You're a wonderful human being

Thank you I think we have orgasm, Houston Let's have a hand We have lift-off

We have lift-off Dang it Dang it Eva Ejection

We, we, we, we Okay, we're gonna come We're gonna come Testify, Sister Penny

Testify That you masturbate And you are not ashamed I am not ashamed

How was it? What's your report? My vagina is so tingly right now It feels like pop rock I'm just gonna take this home

I'm gonna take it I think it's bigger than your little body That is the best product endorsement I've ever seen Can I leave now?

Like, I'm ready, I'm... Come on I still think I could at least leave the husband We're the husband

You got the Sybian, you don't need the husband Don't let her fall over Hello Hey darling girl

I love you I love you That's my girl You're listening to the video

She's one and worldwide Welcome back to Bedelboville Will somebody give me a close-up? I'm an exhibitionist

And yes, I... I'm a pleasure I guess I am a female Because obviously I have a hole in my bottom

Um, big one But, uh I like being among all you humans And

Helping you learn the Bonobo way Of peace to pleasure And of course, I'm very polyamorous I love all my Bonobo friends and cousins

And, you know, everybody really Girls, guys Everybody Chuck E. Chimp here

Yes, I love Chuck E. Chimp too I'm learning to be a Bonobo That's what I'm here in Bonoboville For learning how to be a Bonobo

Because it's not all genetic It's what I heard from that Sapolsky guy Who found some baboons That actually became very Bonobo

Of course, all the alpha males Were killed by tainted meat And that's what caused the rest of them To become Bonobo

But hopefully you will kill me No, not war Oh, yes We love Bonobos

In case you didn't figure it out And yes, Chuck E. Chimp Is becoming a Bonobo And yes, humans can become more

Bonobo too And part of the sex-positive movement The polyamory movement It's, you know, the new paradigm

Less of a killer ape mentality I mean, even the dominant male Supports feminism So, you know, I think we're becoming

More Bonobo And yes, Donald Trump is a backlash Okay Okay, so that's little me

I'm your hostess With the mostest Dr. Susan Block And I'm here hosting A wonderful show on polyamory

Poly on rye Or actually a rye perspective Of poly with a lot of Hot meat in the sandwich

And, yeah We're having some fun This is rye of a rye perspective Rye Mantioni

And this is Nova Lux And this is Biz Bonobo Who is our producer Of the Dr. Susan Block show

And this is Erin, the dating expert And now, brothers and sisters, lovers And sinners, we are in for a treat Because we have a musically talented guest

Wicked is going to play Her wicked violin for us And it is plugged in Yes

Okay Beautiful freestyle With Wicked Yeah, one more

I told you you would get an encore Yeah, come on What can I say? The show really belongs to my audience

I guess, could you play a little more? Yes, awesome That is what we want The people want it

Give it to them Totally, just made that up Freestyle And so I'll be making up another one

That's talent for real though Beautiful Wow Wicked

Wicked violin That had a little heart in the highlands quality That last one But, wow, I mean just flows from you

No wonder you were just spitting Oh right, she gave you a blowjob She didn't play a violin I forgot that was the way

Anyway, lots of others are smitten now I love that big plug That is a big plug It's got a big plug

It's the biggest plug I've ever had Excuse me I've never had a plug this big Those who are listening on radio

Because some people are not watching And they don't know, you know, they're hearing you say This is the biggest plug I ever had And they're enjoying that

I don't know if we want to break their bubble No, that's fine I mean, I've had a lot of plugs Let me break that bubble

All right That, you know, that requires consent I think he's applying for the date again Okay

Yeah, but she said earlier that no means at all That was great I didn't say that That was the stupid chant of the drunk

Eli Jocks Yes, Max Oh, I forgot what I was saying Oh, good, good

All right Well, we are all, like, drunk on music If music be the food of love Shakespeare said play on

And it is, it is, I mean, that was just beautiful Can we have another round of applause? Yeah Yeah

Thank you For about a year now Wicked and I have been working on our new metal band Which she'll be playing violin and singing in

Ah, what do you play? I'm playing a custom guitar-based combo Ah, okay Any style of music?

It's metal Metal? Yeah, it's pretty heavy shit I consider it metal with a little bit of a rock influence

Because I don't have a metal background I do have a rock background, however So I think that this is a little bit of a hybrid It's more metal than rock

But I still want to acknowledge the rock part of it And we have a lot of musicians here tonight Yeah, well, you're a musician, right? Is that what you're trying to say?

No, I, yes, we do, actually Speaking of plugs Speaking of plugs And you've got some of your fellow bandmates here

HP is here And our keyboard players here as well HP He hasn't shown his face yet

But the Quora Quora Quora is somewhere out there Quora

He's our keyboard player Okay, I don't know Did I meet Quora? Not yet, not yet

I thought that was a girl No, that's the after show Oh, okay, all right Well, HP, hey

HP, where's HP? He's out in the yard He's out in the yard He's enjoying the big screen

On the Bonoboville Garden wall So, oh, look who's here Aliyah Corsets Hello

Aliyah and HP, HP, come on Well, my girls are here So, before we... Oh, HP, hello

Hi, darling Wow Did you enjoy the electric violin? Yeah

Absolutely Okay, and you are a professional connoisseur Of all things Musical

Yeah, he's a Norwegian Phenom This guy This is HP, right here Yeah

That's our repository Being a Norwegian Phenom That could be anything Yeah

He's a great Phenom It's a positive Phenom I love his hair Thank you, we love you

And your sideburns have gotten bushier I love you too It must be a sign you're comfortable Yeah, good

All right, and this is The Losers That is the band right here They played for us a couple weeks ago And they will hopefully play for us again

Yeah, maybe even in the after party Maybe there'll be a little boogying in the after party How about that? Could be

Could be a little jam, something Yeah But anyway, before we get through We are going to do our communion ritual

Because we have an almost priest here with us And, you know, we have to show him communion So, Elizabeth being the producer of the show And I would say, you know, perhaps

You should move over a little bit And I'll get one of my other girls, ladies Somebody come sit here with me And you can come up here to Aliyah

Come on up here Because look at Aliyah's outfit Excuse me Turn around

Whoa A leopard corset She always has an amazing corset That's why they call her Aliyah corsets

And, yes, the communion, please We are doing Agua coca leaf liqueur Now, of course, Catholic communion You have wine serving as the blood of Christ

Unless you're in one of those tea-totaling churches That gives you grape juice And here we go I don't know, how many?

We just keep passing them down Okay, well, we're first going to show Here, we're going to do it ourselves And then the arrangement here

The Polly on Rye Rye Wicked Nova Conjunction Is going to do their version We're going to let them design

Their own Bonoboville communion after watching ours Now ours, because actually tomorrow What is tomorrow? Tomorrow, whoa, in Venice

Free the nipple, brothers and sisters Okay, on the beach, right? We're going to march Well, I don't know if I'll be awake

But some people are going to march What? Okay, you got to talk about the... You have to have the microphone

It's at 2 We all know what I'm doing at 2 Anyway, maybe I'll go Maybe you'll be there

We're going to send people there Anyway, you can have this microphone I've spoken enough Well, you might speak some more

But yeah, let the microphone go Okay, so in any case, we are freeing the nipple You can do Bonoboville communion Off of any body part

It could be a wrist or a knee Or a back of the neck Or a butt, we had Sienna Sinclair Do it out of her butthole, right?

And pussies, of course, and dicks Many happy trails going down I mean, it can go wherever you want Whatever you're comfortable with

Or you can abstain from Bonoboville communion That is done too Although not drinking liquor is no excuse

Because we can always give you Great juice, water Holy water Well, holy water

That's our euphemism for female ejaculate Okay, so where did the salt go? Did I have it? No

So, yes, this is instead of the wafer That's what you have in the church For the body I think I shall take mine first

Well, okay then All right Speak up, Sister Alia Yes, go ahead

Where would you like to take them from? What titties here? I don't know that you can select any I know, so then can I ask who is available

For communion? Anybody? Well, I would like to I was going to demonstrate with our people

But Alia is moving forward here I'm sorry, I'm not being too forward I don't know, I guess they'll slap you if you are Shoes, by the way

Shoes, I like those But I need a nipple You need a nipple Just to put some salt on

Okay Lick a little bit Yeah And then I would real

Then I can take my shot I have the salt, right? So Did you want a new nipple?

Is that it? I really don't care I'm just looking for any You're looking for any

I need my shots in my hand Okay, so now she's got You know, because she doesn't want to be rejected So she's saying any

And I understand And here comes one Oh, okay You know what?

I'm going to take it Okay You stood up right now You were sure

All right I hope so He's my future guest No one else was volunteering

Did anyone notice that? Did anyone notice that? That's how I just got rejected You kind of got rejected

This is feminism right here Right, right Feminism Help him off with his

All right Buttons Or open up So then I guess I have to take two, right?

Well Is that the deal? Like Well

Don't talk into your beer loser That is not It's not a mic Isn't that

That's four nipples He's got two I got two Okay

Now you're going too far One nipple at a time Okay Here we go

I have the salt Okay First you lick the nipple Well, yeah

Yes, and then you apply the salt She knows She's done it before And we have nipple brothers and sisters

We have rye Nipple He cringed a little That's sensitive

Yeah Okay It's so weak Very sensitive

Yeah, yeah Well Aliyah is ravenous She likes that Polly on Rye

She's a sandwich girl She loves that rye And she is drinking though Not rye, but agua

Cocoa leaf liquor All right Let's hear it for Rye providing himself

Thank you so much As an altar Okay Were you an altar boy?

Were you an altar boy? No, but I studied catechism Okay And you did very well

You provided yourself as an altar The body of Christ here You're so sensitive It wasn't even

Are you being critical? Are you being critical? I said earlier I'm a total pussy

I can't take what I dish out Really? What did you do? Did you bite him?

I didn't A little bit You liar He catches liars

You need to do confession Under normal circumstances No one is allowed to touch Rye's nipples

All right I apologize Wow Are you guys jealous?

No, I'm just telling you That's why he reacted The way that he did And he jealous

That was tongue nutty That explains it Because they're Wait a minute

He offered his nipples He did He totally offered it I sacrificed my nipples on this altar

I didn't even ask I'm a martyr for nipples Yeah, he's gonna lick my nipples Nipple martyr

You're a nipple martyr I think just about anybody Be a nipple martyr For all of the course

I fucking hated it But I did it anyway Because it's fun There you go

Contrary All the guys For how horrible it was I playfully tweaked his nipple

Once and he almost punched me Do either of you Want to be next You like

Sure Yeah I mean Right

You don't even drink alcohol But you can drink some water Right, I could be an altar Okay, and do you

Want to be an altar Sure Okay, all right Well

I guess I will Have some from both of you Okay Nipples

Someone else be the altar Yeah, two altars right here Yeah This is a

There is Chelsea And Biz Bonobo Somebody had to get this shit started And they had to be me

I'm sucking my microphone On The hazards of my trade And

It's so much fun One of them has a hoop Okay Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum

Yum, I love this religion I tell you Bum shiva shambalay No, that's the wrong prayer

Amen and ay women Ay women All right, the host is drunk Now

Who's next? I think I need to Do some religion over here Okay, get your religion baby

Worship at that altar You were brought up for this Communion Rye

The rye perspective Of communion With Wicked

Up the thigh Into that sensitive spot Salt And he pours it

He poured on a lot of salt there Yeah, okay That is hot Well, you know

Okay He can handle it I think I'm a little salty It's gonna be good

The rye perspective There it is Check that tongue Mmm, nice

And Bonoboville Communion Woo-hoo Who else is thirsty? I feel blessed

Yes And you must feel baptized That was a pretty sloppy lick there Almost a suck lick

Yeah, a suck lick baby Mmm, what do you I mean, I know You're shy, right?

Can I nominate rye to do mine for me? Off of you Whatever I mean it doesn't have to be

I would like to suggest off of you Yes, I would like to suggest that also All right, let's hear some clapping here Yeah, yeah

Yay Woo-hoo And we're going for the cleavage Oh yes

Goodness Blessing Doesn't Biz look cute as an altar girl She does

A topless altar girl Freying the nipple Freaking out Yeah

And here is Nova presenting her cleavage for the almost priest's delegation a rye perspective of the

Bonoboville Communion Very good Yes indeed Who hasn't had any

Well, you don't want any Right? I'm good You're good

She's already blessed I guess I'm next Oh, yes, yes, yes Okay

I'm watching I'm seeing I'm wondering Oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm excited

I think I see her looking at what some might perceive to be her rival And she is Oh, yes

Yes She is having She's going to have a Bonoboville Communion with Nova

Oh, I'm so excited These two are This is exciting No, no

Usually just friends I know, I know, I know, I know This is why I'm excited I'm going to stand up

I have to get a bird's-eye view of this She is going for the very sensitive clavicle area Wicked on Nova

for Bonoboville Communion She's pouring in just a little salt She doesn't want to go too far here but she is definitely

going for it Oops I mean to pet you like a pussy Very nice

Very beautiful Very beautiful Communion Literally Yeah, and they seem all glowy now

I mean, I don't know It could be the alcohol But, yeah, there was a thing that happened, right?

How did you feel about that? Oh, their butts felt great It felt good Yeah, felt good

Okay, so did you, Erin You're the dating consultant We're all dating here She needs a microphone

I'm going to keep it strictly professional tonight and I'm going to abstain But I'm having a great time

observing all of this Truly I don't know if I would agree with your word professional

I would say, you know you're certainly anybody can abstain We were all for that

But, hey, aren't we all professionals? I don't know That's true, we all are Absolutely

So I don't know But I wouldn't put it that way Wait, I'm not a professional You can't hire me

Oh, right, you're a prince You can't hire me for money and none of that Okay

Okay, that's true I just want to make that clear I understand I understand

I, on the other hand charge, you know, 210 an hour I do But, yeah, not for this, though

That's for, you know being a therapist But anyway, professional Yeah, I mean, he's

of the princely aristocracy of Italy, Rome and actually Czech Republic

Yeah, Prince Maximilian Rudolf D. Leblavich D. Lubkovitsky Phil and Jerry

Whoo! And this is the ring, baby I mean, this ring means something but this ring

I don't know what it means I don't know, it doesn't mean shit But, you know, that and I mean, it's cute

It's the coat of arms So, okay, we're all coated with agua So, how are we feeling?

I mean, do you feel Do you want to report some feelings on your communion with each other? I'm feeling a little tipsy

I'm Chelsea Yay What do you feel? I already did, but I'll do it again

Whoo! I'm so responsive to my audience Thank you to the bar, folks How was that for you, Nova?

That was fun Yeah? Yeah Yeah

Yeah, I mean, it was an emotional thing to have a connection like that after you have Sure, I felt very accepted

Good And did she give a nice tongue? Yeah A good suck lick, or at least the lick part

Yeah, there was no sucking No sucking, no No, but the lick was really nice It was, it looked nice

Did she taste good? She tasted like salt before and after I love salt I'm a salt person, so that to me is good

Alright, so... Savory Savory, so So where were we?

We were almost at the end of the show But I want to just see what else I have to talk to you about

Yeah Oh Oh, yes Well, we appreciate how you

loved one of our recent guests and actually we love her too Janet Hardy Ethical Slut

Very important book for your development I guess One of the first books I read on the topic of ethical nominogamy

One of the Bibles of that whole movement Yes Yep And we love it

I joined her on stage recently That's right With Sex Positive, LA And UCLA

Now I saw a post that upset me Good It had the hate word

Hate And we weren't talking about Trump Who I would certainly understand We're talking about

Sex at Dawn Yes How could you hate Sex at Dawn? I have a lot of disagreement with it

Okay, okay, disagreement I think that it has Had a wonderful impact on culture And society since it came out

But I don't agree with a word in it Not a word Almost none of it I really believe that humanity

Is designed to cheat And we have to actively cultivate A culture of non-cheating But we're designed to break the rules

To be selfish, to take advantage Of others And we have to overcome that Whereas Sex at Dawn

Thinks that we're more designed For an open-minded collaboration Well, it does think It does put out the information

That a lot of science points to That, you know, we as The Sex at Dawn At the dawn of humankind

Were a little bit like bonobos Or common chimps Now common chimps are very selfish And violent

And, yeah, we're somewhere In between, perhaps And we have qualities That are very bonobo-like

We can be very loving I mean, you guys have all this Compersion and joy in each other's Joy

There's selfishness You know, I don't think he says That humans aren't selfish He just says we don't have to be

As selfish That private property and war And a lot of things That are part of civilization

For humans kind of Egg on our selfishness And an awareness of our origins Which may have been quite

Polyamorous Doesn't necessarily say That that's how we have to be now It just says let's be a little

Understanding of our, you know, Difficulties with conventional marriage You had referred to sex at dusk Which I don't know

I couldn't even get through But it does have a lot of good science But it just doesn't It actually doesn't even disagree with sex at dawn

It just kind of mis-represents it As saying that they're trying to say Everybody should be polyamorous And they're really not saying that at all

They're saying we just should be aware That perhaps our bodies were designed If you can say designed But our bodies evolved to appreciate

A more expansive view of sex A view that you guys seem to take A view that we take That that is perhaps a little more natural

Than just closed off, you know, Unisexual monogamy I really think that I'm a genetic failure I'm not going to reproduce

In anything regarding my genes Is quite irrelevant My genes are self-destructing I will die, I will not procreate in any way

Good for you, because the earth has too many people And so once you start Not enough bonobos, though We need more bonobos and fewer people

Really, so I think it's great And I think that's very unselfish Even though most people interpret that as selfish I agree with them, it's selfish

I love myself a lot You just maybe acknowledge That you enjoy having a good time And that you wouldn't do justice to kids

A lot of people who enjoy having a good time Still have kids anyway And then the kids get neglected And great for them

I don't see that as selfish You know, it's really wonderful In my business, which is this business here That we brought up

A couple of generations of kids And those are all my kids Kids that I've changed their lives And touched them deeply

From when they were little kids Watching this wonderful show here With Dr. Susie Genetics is only one aspect of life

And there is also memes I mean, there's genes and there's memes And when we put out these philosophies And these images and these sounds

We are reproducing We are having sex with our audience We are being sexual And yeah, you're not leaving little copies of you

Which aren't really copies anyway And there's a very good bit By a comedian named Doug Stanhope Who I love

Where he says that So you probably know the bit Where he says that the people who are Supposed to environmentalists

And they drive around with pre-assists But they have babies He says you can drive to and from work In a fleet of hummers

And fart out the window for the rest of your life And you wouldn't do as much damage to the planet As having one fucking baby And all those diapers

Which aren't even diapers Humans are the biggest polluters One human Nothing against all the babies out there

Which are so cute and we love you I need you all to have more babies So that you can take care of me when I'm too old Yeah, there you go

Henry Miller said you should Cook them in axle grease I wanted to touch on something that you said I agree with him

Yeah I'm not... I don't prescribe to the whole idea That humanity is supposed to do anything

There are plenty of things that we used to do Thousands of years ago That we don't anymore Exactly

And there are a lot of polyamorous people out there Who say that everyone is supposed to be polyamorous And anyone who's monogamous is being duped And is being cheated out of

What they're supposed to be doing in life To those people I say calm down And let other people do what they want to do Absolutely

If people want to be monogamous Fine, be monogamous If people want to be polyamorous Awesome, be polyamorous

If people want to be vegans I don't agree with it I'm never gonna be vegan But you go ahead and be vegan

You know, we're not... We weren't driving cars thousands of years ago We weren't living in brick and wood establishments Thousands of years ago

Things change And we're doing things differently Than the way we used to do them Thousands of years ago

And being polyamorous or being monogamous Are two of those things I don't know which one we were doing I don't know which one we were supposed to be doing

But you know what? It doesn't matter Well, I think what does matter though I have to say

Is just learning about our origins And just acknowledging that These are our origins Or as we discover the science more and more

We learn more about our origins That doesn't mean we have to be the same way It just means getting a little more understanding Of who we are

And saving the bonobos Because they show us Who we may have been in those old days Any form of self-righteousness is wrong

It doesn't matter which side you're on If you claim your view... I don't know, I get sort of self-righteous About bombing and beheading and stuff like that

Yeah, but any... Because she mentioned the fact that There's a lot of things that we do now That we can do a thousand years ago

There are things that we now understand is wrong That 50 years ago or 100 years ago Everybody would swear by their mom That it was the right thing to do

Like marrying 14-year-old girls Or intermarriage Or slavery Or gay...

Or homosexuality Or anything that was the majority opinion That it was wrong And now people have come around and changed it

Self-righteousness is never a good thing It's divisive And it makes people unable To understand the other side

Unable to understand other people's feelings Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But I still think that Education is almost always good

I think you need to have an understanding That we're all different It's not tolerance It's respect for the ideal

That we are humans and humanity And we should not be casting any stones at anyone Including other animals We are humans

But we are animals We are apes And we can learn from our fellow apes About who we are

And it doesn't mean we have to act like apes Or swing through the trees Or even with each other It just means understanding where we come from

Because I don't know I think part of the thing that's destroying the earth Is that we think we're special That we think we're different than the other animals

And the plants And the rest of this earth that we're on And we're kind of different Like everybody's different

But we're kind of related And anyway Nobody special except me I just had to defend my friend

And also, you know Someone I admire a lot And I love Sex at Dawn, of course So anyway, we can agree to disagree

But you're wrong Okay Anyway What else?

We should wind up soon We'll wind up next week We'll be all on stage again Let's talk about it

Let's take a few minutes Yes, Stock Room is a wonderful place We got our cuffs from Stock Room Which Stock Room?

Silver Lake Silver Lake Somebody asked in the audience We'll be there August 29th

Saturday from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. Shamelessly plugging poly talks And Rye relationships Alright

We'll have myself My girlfriends We'll also have Amy Harwick Who is the author of the

New Sex Bible for Women I usually have various researchers And therapists and experts Join me on stage

And it's Q&A driven So it's literally whatever the audience Wants to talk about for three hours That's what we talk about

If there's a Bible I'm there So I mean Are we plugging stuff? Is that what's going on?

Yeah, yeah, it's plug time It's plug time? Can we plug that Felix Amira Is out on Amazon in the iTunes this week?

You just did Felix Amira that he won Loser won All kinds of awards

I have an oxymoron But he won Best Actor In two, three Three festivals

And the film won The Toronto Film Festival last year And it's doing really It did really well on theaters

And now it's out on demand On Amazon and iTunes And all the other platforms So if you go to

He also had a record released Well, actually we're turning We're turning it into a musical now Oh, now it's a musical

It's a musical And can we say what else you're on? Yeah, transparent Transparent

Transparent season two drops December 4th And you play Caitlyn Jenner In another life Yeah, Jewish Caitlyn Jenner

Yeah All right A circumcised Caitlyn Jenner Too soon, too soon

I'm not going to try to figure that one out I'm playing now Yeah, I'm in four episodes of the new season And it drops December 4th

And I play a gay guy In the 1930s That's all I can say Oh, playing against type

All right, so shout out to Polly Superstar Who made me aware of Rai For the first time And...

Polly? R.I.P. Debra Annampoll Mmm And thank you

Dr. Serena Gaia Who of course is the Editor of Ecosexuality For a beautiful eulogy

To Debra Annampoll And let's see Oh, Catalyst Con I had my time change

So I can sleep an hour and a half later It's now 12.30 p.m. The Bonobo Way, brothers and sisters September 12th

The day after September 11th You can learn how to use sex To make peace on Earth And...

Let's see, shout out to Lola Yabanobo Who has a new movie And Steve Carras Who says he is the self-proclaimed

Midwest chapter president Of the Block Army The Block Army, all right That's what Steve Carras has declared himself

And... A big shout out to Mal, okay That's the only part of the name

I'm gonna give right now For your investment In the Bonobo Way Your gift

Will keep on giving with Bonobo-esque love And we'll be telling you more Next show

About the Mal Project Okay, we are very blessed Brothers and sisters Very, very excited

All right Yeah, yeah Okay, anything else You guys want to promote yourselves

Anybody want to plug anything? Plug, plug, here If you'd like to plug something I have

I also have The president of the United States All right, next week Onyx Muse will be performing

In San Francisco, Crazy Horse On the 25th, 26th, and 27th She'll be doing her Hula Hoop act I didn't know she did a Hula Hoop act

She does Hula Hoop And then she's gonna do some kind of A piano dance thing Right, doesn't she play the piano with her feet

Or something like that Yeah, it's like a floor piano She rolls it out And then she plays with her feet

You gotta learn to play the violin with your feet Then you can be the Crazy Horse I forgot to have one more plug One more plug that the HP's album

The Last Hurrah Dropped this week And the release party is Next Saturday

At the Besan Lodge In Beechwood Canyon And the losers is opening the show Wow

The 29th, it's next Saturday At the, I think it's called the Besan Lodge We can't be there, we're doing the show I know, I know

And it's full moon Next Saturday Oh wow Yeah, it's like the super moon

I love when they moon me So that's next Saturday All right Plug, plug, plug, plug

Plug, plug, anybody want a butt plug? It's all for therapy And I'm a block institute The book

Oh, do I want to do a books banking? Is there a message? A book space There's a message coming in

A message I've got a message from the Benobleville chat room from Sid saying hello to Ryan, Nova and Wicked

Sid Sid You know Sid Is he a member of the family?

I first met Sid when he attended one of our Polly Talks at the Pleasure Chest He attended and we became friends Cool

Awesome All right Sid Well, Sid, we have to meet you one day

In the meantime I think we're going to close up and I got a request from the peanut gallery for a books banking

Yeah, you want to go for it? Yeah Okay, this is what we do here Anybody with an ass is eligible

Well, yeah, but a nice ass like this is particularly good to spank that Benoble way

right into her booty You know, if she won't read it you use it as a paddle That's what the books are good for

You see, you wrote a book Soon you'll be using your book as a paddle too This is asmosis learning Yes

Oh, but after we spank Where's my mitt? That's nice Thank you very much

Let's hear it with this Benoble Awesome producer You know, offers so much of yourself Alright

Okay, so, yeah It's been great Thank you so much for joining us and being part of Benobleville for an evening

and we hope you come back and thank you all who are out there for listening or watching in your cardboard box

or your mansion on a hill We want you to be good Be happy explore all the different relationships

designer or, you know, off the shelf or off the rack or whatever relationships off the rack whatever you feel

and get educated You know, take the course at stock room or read the Benoble way Call us, call the therapist

Upside down, it's okay too Call the therapist Oh, yeah, call the therapist at the Dr. Susan Block Institute

Especially if you're like thinking about Ashley Madison I mean, you know, look what happened to those people

By the way, we don't keep any of our records on computers and it's not cheating when you call us you're just getting some therapy

So, you know, we can talk to you about it So, you need to I know, I hear you back there Happy

Yeah, so, you know Be poly Be happy Be whatever you like

Be Benoble Make like Bonobos Not baboons Make love

They're making love, aren't they? Make love, not war Make love to someone you love tonight We didn't talk about masturbation

but I think everyone would agree that even if that someone is you it's okay Make love to someone you love tonight

even if that someone is you I love you See the clap sign Okay

Need to talk with someone about something you can't talk about with anyone else You can talk to us I'm Dr. Susan Block

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