Sex Appeal

Full transcript of Sex Appeal on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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I'd like to hear my voice, baby. Let Moby Dick hear the captain speak. Yeah, yeah. How you doing, doc?

And everyone on that island before he crashes into it. Okay, no, no, this different captain. This captain is Max. I'm not the Italian captain that ran the ship.

No, no, this is Captain Max. I don't remember his name. I only have eyes for you, babe. Thank you.

So you're back from your big sea battle? That's right. I was at the cancer spa. Right, you look good.

You lost like 40 pounds, I think. Lost 44 pounds. Wow, I didn't know it was going to be liposuction. I thought it was a neoblatter.

Growing my hair back. Right. I was bald before. You know, when you get a neoblatter,

you get liposuction just thrown in there. Two for one. I also had a penis enlargement. Oh, that too.

I'm excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, great stuff from Dr. Don Ischman.

Yes. At the USC Keck Medical Center. And you are their, you know, prize patient. I'm the prize patient.

That's correct. No, you are the captain. So welcome back. I mean, we're glad to see you here.

And just in case you missed these, I have a syringe here for you. No, thank you. It's good to have you back, captain.

And I'm going to introduce our other guests. Do you mind? Go right ahead. Your walkie-talkie is on.

Very impolite. Usually you're engineering. Right. But tonight you're a guest.

Right. And I got a lot of bass in this thing here. Oh, very choosy about his microphone quality here. Okay.

Well, the lovely lady right next to you. I am Courtney Taylor. Would be Courtney Taylor. You introduce yourself.

Yes. Well, isn't that Bonobo of you? That's Courtney Taylor. The Bonobo females are very aggressive.

Oh, yeah. In a good way. Shake it, baby. Yeah, hookah hookah.

Yeah, I might punch these two in the face. Big thanks. Yeah. So you're the porn star half of my professors and porn stars.

I am. You are. I am. And that's cool.

I am excited to have you here. Thank you for having me. Tonight's subject is sex appeal. All about it.

You're all about it? All about it. What does it mean to you? Sex appeal is just to me being the sexiest, most amazing empowerment woman that I can be.

Trying to turn all these dicks as hard as I can make them. Right. Right. Okay.

We've got some hard lit dicks right here. Yeah. Okay. Those dicks were on fire, baby.

Well, welcome to the Speak Easy. Thank you for having me. And next to you is the professor half of the professor and porn star combo here tonight. And that would be the author of the book I Am Holding, the name of which is Sex Appeal.

And that is UCLA Professor of Psychology, Paul Abramson. Welcome. Thank you, everyone. We're very excited to have you here, Paul.

Thank you. Paul, you know, in our laboratory of... How come professors get the clap and porn stars don't? The clap?

Ooh. Everybody collapsed. Oh, I thought you meant that he had a disease. Okay.

Never mind. Okay. Sorry. I will clap for that one.

Well, wait a second. No, we want our porn stars to perform. Yeah, she wants to. She wants to chance to prove herself anyway and deserve the applause.

Absolutely. I need to work for the applause a little bit. Yeah, okay. All right.

We're going to work, yeah. Mm-hmm. Him, too. Mm-hmm.

All right, I... I'm working my head. Yeah. So this is Sex Appeal, six ethical principles for the 21st century that all have to do with

sex, like the commandments, except there's only half. So... A little bit more than half. Oh, yeah, that's true.

I can't count. That's the professor correcting me. Yeah, I have to kind of do that kind of thing. Yeah, right, right.

Well, that's... Yeah, that's... So principles. The principle of the school is here to correct us and to tell us about sex and how to practice

it ethically. Mm-hmm. I guess that's what Sex Appeal is about. It's interesting.

The book was originally titled Responsible Sex Revisited, but Oxford, who's the publisher, said that's a yonor. Mm-hmm. Responsible Sex Revisited.

Revisited. Well, it's got R and R. Exactly. So they thought it was kind of a yonor, so they came up with the title.

Ah. Well, yeah, I mean, it's appealing. It is. Sex Appeal.

It's very appealing. And at first, when I saw it, I thought that it was going to be about, like, sex cases, like that went all the way through the appeals process up to the Supreme Court or something like that.

That's what I thought it was going to be, you know, which would have been interesting too. And I work in those kind of cases. Yeah, exactly. I saw that in your bio, so I thought, oh, this is going to be all about, you know, these

different cases where appeals have brought about interesting rulings. Yes. But it's more about really how to be an ethical slut or hedonist, as I like to say, ethical hedonist.

It's a thinking person's guide. Mm-hmm. To sexuality. Yeah.

I don't know if you have to think. I mean, you might have to think to read it. Yeah. To read it.

Yeah. You might have to, you know, you have to think to read anything these days except tweets and stuff. But we love tweets.

You got to get on Twitter, Professor. I know. Facebook is stodgy. No, I know.

Ellie Weekly tells me that. Right. No. And I would have been tweeting up a storm with you.

Yeah, I know. Like, I was with Courtney. Courtney's all, that's how she's so fluffed up. It's from Twitter.

Facebook's a plantation and you're a surf. Ooh. Right. But anyway, sex appeal, Paul Abramson.

And I want to mention just a couple of your other credits before we delve into this. Well, you are in a band and the band is crying for Kafka. And my favorite song of the band or at least my favorite title is,

All We Are Saying. Give Sodomy a Chance. Give Sodomy a Chance. Right.

Give Sodomy a Chance. The loudest laugh there was from our drummer. Right. He knew what I was leading up to.

Yeah. No, he's laughing again. And when I heard that name, I thought, oh, that's going to be about the, like, the Supreme Court ruling of 2003.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. The 2003, you know. And the one before it.

The Bowers versus Hardwick, which was 88 and Lawrence versus Texas was the 2003. Lawrence versus Texas. Right.

And that gives Sodomy a chance. Makes Sodomy actually legal. Woo! Yeah.

And what is Sodomy? First of all, we should define that just in case some people think it's something really bad. Well, it's kind of bad in a good way.

I mean, as long as you take your precautions, of course, it's, well, it's anal sex or oral sex, really. It's both of them. But the Bible says that any form of sex that isn't penis and vagina is

Sodomy, you know. So that covers a lot of territory. Well, the story behind the song is that the Texas Republican Party uses its official platform in 2010 to recriminalize Sodomy.

I mean, this is the official Texas Republican platform. And I thought, hmm, that's ready made for a song. And it's also, I wrote an LA Weekly article called, Give Sodomy a Chance.

And this song, Give Sodomy a Chance, is embedded in it. And it basically is a story about gay rights in general and sexual rights, you know, more broadly. Yes.

Well, I think we're going to play a version of it. Great title. And we are going to play a version of it that Courtney is going to be challenged to interpret.

All right. If there's any Republicans here, you can leave now. Well, the interesting thing about the article is that within one week it had four times the number of hits of any LA Weekly

article in its history. Oh, wow. So it was a very galvanizing title as well. Yes.

Yes. People love Sodomy. The people love Sodomy. Absolutely.

Listen to my engineer. Well, Brian back there loves Sodomy, obviously. You know, and I mean, a lot of people do. It kind of cuts across a lot of different sexual orientations.

So give Sodomy a chance. Actually, the LAB also loves Sodomy. Back in 1976, they got together with the panographers. And the panographers said, well, what can we do so we don't

get busted? Well, you can't put in five fingers. You can't do this. You can't do that.

So they said, well, what can you do? You can have anal sex. They said, you can have all the anal sex you want. But no fingers?

Not more than four fingers. No fisting. Otherwise it becomes fisting. The idea is no fisting.

That's correct. Which would be another form of Sodomy, actually. And no sex with vegetables. Which would be another form of Sodomy.

Sodomy cuts across a lot of different, you know, sort of positions and styles. It's a lot of things. So, you know, give it a chance.

I worked on all those cases that you're referring to. I was the expert witness and I was the expert witness for Pacific Bell and all style porn cases. Oh, Pacific Bell.

Actually, I was prosecuted by Pacific Bell for printing black boxes and blue boxes that actually Steve Jobs was doing up in San Francisco. I've been prosecuted 23 times.

I spent 26 months of my life in prison. So I'm the most prosecuted publisher in the country. Yay, Max! Who is your attorney?

Stanley Fleischman. Yeah, I worked with Stanley Fleischman. For many years, he kept me out of prison. Yeah.

So I worked with him on cases starting in 1976. Wonderful man. There's an article coming out about Max in Richardson Magazine. Richardson Magazine.

Oh. Because Max kind of created reader-written journalism long before Facebook had you on its plantations. That's right.

The other attorney who played a big role was Arthur Schwartz. I don't know if you ever ran across him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm still friends with several of... Barry Fisher. Barry Fisher. Who is still a...

No friend of mine. First Amendment attorney. And we brought our attorney here, Terry Gross, who is also a major First Amendment attorney as well.

He worked in one of the big gift-sending cases, too. Oh, right. Terry Gross. So you're a...

What type of attorney is he? He's right here. Speak for himself. Oh, but he doesn't have a microphone.

Oh, he's my guy. He's a First Amendment attorney in intellectual property. Oh, okay. He's also Burning Man's attorney.

Oh, really? Yeah. It's a attorney for Burning Man. Another attorney I had was a counselor.

Ah, yeah. William Consler. Yeah. He was a great lawyer.

Yeah. A lot of good he did you, though. Yeah. Oh, well.

So anyway, back from law to your other credits, LA Weekly, and the most recent article is about condoms. It's about how condoms, well, suck. For real.

So it's a two-part article. So we wrote one, which was called Condom Suck, and got all this attention. And the former Surgeon General of the U.S.,

Jocelyn Elders, wrote the LA Weekly, you know, chastising us for saying condoms suck. So we wrote a second article which said, condoms still suck, which is her response.

You can find both of those. But the interesting thing about them is that it drew this attention from a condom company in Great Britain called They Fit.

It's a new company. They have 95 different sizes. And they're negotiating with us to give Sodomia a chance as their theme song, or as a billboard, imagine.

Give Sodomia a chance. Yeah. They Fit condoms. These condoms don't suck.

But you know, in order to keep your integrity, remember the integrity thing, you'd have to really try their condoms and make sure that those condoms don't suck. Exactly.

So the whole focus of the article is looking for game change. You can't sell out. No, no, no. No, no, wait, wait, wait.

It depends how much you're paying. Well, I mean, that's what we're a little bit afraid that Joyce and Elders, who were big fans of Dr. Elders, because after all, she's the one that got us all

masturbating in the 90s when, you know, she said that masturbation should be taught. In the classroom. In the classroom.

Now, she didn't mean that we're all going to sit there wanking with the teacher. Well, some of us hope that's what she meant. Not a bad idea.

Exactly, right? Yeah, but I think that what she meant was, you know, that you say, hey, there's different forms of safe sex and masturbation is one of them.

Well, it wasn't quite that. What she didn't say was that she's on Trojan's payroll. Well, yeah. Well, now she is.

Now she is. She wasn't there. No, she wasn't then. But I think she wasn't then.

She criticized our article. She stuck her neck out then, and so she gets props for that. But, you know, hey, you're only as good as your last,

you know, your last promo. And now she's promoting for Trojan, which is not a bad company. I mean, they make condoms, you know, good for them.

But for her to say that, I guess what she said is that, you know, hey, keep your mouth shut. Condoms don't suck. And, you know, we got to get people wearing condoms.

And if you criticize condoms, no one's going to wear them, which is like communist or something. That's like a fascist thing to say, right? That you should keep your mouth shut and not criticize.

So we responded back that somebody must have fun jacked the condoms before we wrote our article, because most people agree they suck. So the point of the article was really to, that it's time to get a game changer.

Imagine a contraceptive or a preventive device that goes on like a lubricant. That would be a game changer. That would enhance sexuality, be pleasurable and so forth.

Well, a condom is, you know, kind of a downer. It's necessary. It's essential for safe sex. But it diminishes pleasure. So the article's about, you know, we need a Steve Jobs moment in condoms.

Somebody who can think outside the box. Steve Jobs genius was that he translated things and made them user-friendly. And a condom's not user-friendly.

So we basically argued for that. Okay, so we need an apple condom and eye condom? I guess so. I wrap. I wrap it up.

I wrap's a good title. I wrap. There you go. All right.

So do you like to use condoms? You know what? I might have to disagree a little bit. Disagree?

Because you're the female half. Yeah, you know what? I don't not enjoy condoms. You know, the safest that I can be is I'm okay with.

But usually on my porn sets, everybody's tested and it's always a safe experience on set. But if I'm gonna have sex just in my personal life, I would definitely want to use a condom,

just to be completely safe. Definitely. And Trojan, and there's so many different types of condoms these days and so many different brands that you can find a one

that works specifically for your needs. Definitely. For a woman. Yes.

But so our argument wasn't that. We agree with that completely. We're saying that in the development of the technology, we're looking for a game changer.

That's something that she enhances sex rather than something that is just solely a preventive for an STI. So if you imagine a condom that goes on like a lubricant. Oh, okay.

So that's what we're saying. Okay, okay. That's all we're saying with that. Okay, you know, I can definitely understand that.

I mean, Jesus, if there's a condom that you can put on like a lube, then. Yeah, that was our point. Or with some technology, we can't even think about it.

Remember this ringy thing that was on the wall? It's called a telephone. And now we walk around with this iPhone, which is, you know, your entire record collections in your pocket.

It's a computer. It's all these other kinds of things. Who would have thought of that 20 years ago? And so what we're trying to push is that there has to be

a game changer, an innovative technological solution. That makes sense. Because condoms haven't really changed in like a hundred years. No, no, no, no.

Not at all. No, no, no. 300 years. Okay.

You have to think condoms are the error of bloodletting in leeches. The condoms are around in the Revolutionary War. They haven't changed. I mean, the materials have changed a little bit.

That was the sheepskin, though, in those days. They actually, you know, they're fish intestines. They were basically animal intestines. Nasty.

But they felt better. But they ripped all the time. Yeah, they ripped all the time. Yeah, yeah.

The real sheepskins, I don't think they have those anymore. No, because they ripped too much. Yeah, yeah. You don't have to be tested for whether they're porous or not.

Well, we're going to talk about condoms and all types of sex, sex appeal, sexual ethics, and hubba hubba, Courtney Taylor, as well as our other guest, Professor Abramson, Professor Paul.

Can I call you Professor Paul? You call me Paul. Okay. Paulie.

See, I already take liberties with that. So we're talking about all kinds of stuff here, and if you want to give us a call, our toll-free number is 1-866-289-7068.

Captain Max is also back with us. And feisty as ever, reminding everyone of his many arrests. Remember, everyone, how great I am. Yes, absolutely.

And what a fucking fighter I am. And he fights... And how revolutionized the fucking rules. ...the LAPD, and he has beat cancer so far.

So far, yeah. Yeah, okay. That's a tough one. So 1-866-289-7068, if you're in North America

and if you're anywhere else in the world, you can call us on our regular number, 213-670-0066, or our Skype number, 213-599-7398, that's 213-599-7398.

And do I still have Adam here? He's been holding for a while. Nori? Yep.

Okay. Now, Adam has a question. What's his question? Well, he wants to talk about something we haven't been talking about,

but I think everybody will have an opinion about this. Why is someone attracted to BDSM? And is it okay to explore these fantasies? No, it's not okay.

You're going to have to be punished for that, on your knees. Uh-huh. Okay. Adam?

Adam. Adam, are you there? Okay. Adam.

Adam's not there. Okay, he's gone. He got impatient when we were talking about condoms. All right, Adam, call us back.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, we'll answer that question, huh? Sure.

Why don't we? After all, it's a good question. I mean, where do BDSM fantasies come from? I mean, Professor, that kind of addresses your subject matter here,

in a way, because this is all about sexual ethics, about being a good sexual person. But most of us who are good sexual people, well, what do we have in our heads?

We have fantasies about being bad sexual people, or having bad things done to us. I first want to sort of lay this groundwork of where my vantage point comes from,

that for the past 30 years, I've been an expert witness in all these sex abuse of kids cases, like the ones you read about in the school system, and the clergy abuse, and the coach abuse,

and all the kind of things. So I've seen all these egregious, horrendous things that adults do to kids. So when it comes to consensual things adults do,

you know, my perspective on it, at first thing, I'm thankful that it's two adults. And so I entered this situation, and actually that dialogue from that perspective.

Then I basically asked two questions, one of which is that, you know, is it consensual, I mean, truly consensual, that it's voluntary,

they understand the nature of consequences, that they give whatever permission they give to each other, it's transformative. It transforms the act into a consensual act.

And the second one is avoid a tangible harm. So if bond or discipline, those sorts of things go over and to, across that boundary where it's truly harmful,

then I'm not for it. But if it's role playing and fun they're having, you know, it's two adults in a consensual relationship, and it's...

Well, some of it's dangerous. No, some of it's dangerous and then... So that could be harmful. Definitely.

So, you know, I'm not for that. Well, but yeah. That's just my personal opinion. Yeah, I mean, but sex is dangerous, you know.

I mean, we're talking about the raincoats here, wearing them, not wearing them, how sometimes they break. I mean, sex is dangerous.

So I guess I would have to say that that's a gray area. Because if you just say it can't be harmful, then, well... Well, tangible harm.

I say tangible harm. So not that it's... Don't leave marks. Yeah.

Obviously, if you take... If you have a shield next to you. It'll take you risk if you're using a condom, as you're saying.

Yeah, right. Let's see. What is this? Oh, Adam's back on line one.

Okay, Adam. You're such a good boy. He called me back. I told him to.

So let's say hello to Adam, since we're talking about his question. Adam, hello? Is he there?

Uh-oh. Max, you might have to go over there and see what's going on. Uh-oh, we lost Adam again.

No, we just lost him. Okay. And he's turned up. Yeah, Adam.

Adam. Adam. Okay. Hold on.

Oh, Adam. Oh, there he is. I love when they say, we'll see if that works.

Yeah. That's music to my ear. Oh, hey, Adam. Yeah, I recognize you.

You called before. Okay. And you did. You did call back.

And you have a new question, I guess, sort of new, right? I'm trying to remember who you were. You only called once before.

But your question now is about the BDSM. Yes, I was kind of a little more into that. And I heard your response to it. And I was talking more about, like,

females with strap-ons and things like that. Females with strap-ons. Anything consensual or anything. Well, no, of course that's consensual, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Females with strap-ons, yeah.

But it could be dangerous, like, if you have a giant strap-on and a tiny little hole, you know, back there. I mean, could hurt somebody.

But I don't know. That's part of it, right? Yes. Having a little bit of fun with it.

You know, a little bit edge. A little bit of edge. If you go into it knowing what the risks are and you choose that, I mean,

as long as it's not... I mean, so it's built on this consensual relationship and the two adults. And it's void of what I consider tangible harm.

Yeah. Well, I think that, you know, BDSM is sometimes very psychological. It's all about, you know,

kind of mind over matter. But sometimes it is about feeling that physical pain that's kind of a rush. And as long as it's controlled

and people aren't, you know, kind of going crazy and really, you know, hurting and breaking collar bones and things,

then... You meant what I'm referring to. That's tangible harm. Well, yeah, yeah, right.

Okay. Professor and I are ultimately in agreement, I think. Okay.

Counselor. But I'm looking at his lawyer right now. But, yeah, so Adam, what is it...

Oh, you like women with strap-ons, right? Yes, and I like women in bondage sometimes. Women in bondage, like women tied up, or...

So women tied up... A tied-up woman wearing a strap-on that you sit on, is that it? No, it's two separate things.

Oh, two separate things. Okay, so in one fantasy, the women are tied up. And you're the one who's in control? Yes.

And in the other... It's the woman that's in control. And you're tied up? I don't have to be tied up, but...

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, do you get to live out these fantasies, or is this just in the mind?

This is more in the mind. And why don't you live them out, Adam? I don't know. I mean, the reason I call in,

I'm from more of like a religious background. Oh, why? It's kind of an experiment, I think. So, Adam, you are the first man, you know.

Yes. I'm actually 21 years old. Well, congratulations. I'm glad you are not under 18.

Yeah. But over 21 is good, then you can drink with us as well. What part of the country you're from? What part of the country you're from, Adam?

Adam's from Chicago. Chicago, okay. Right. He's the middle of the country.

And what religion, Adam? Just Catholic. Just Catholic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Max can say, oh, yeah, yeah, because he was brought up Catholic, too. I converted to Judaism. I'm kind of like exploring new things, I guess.

You're exploring new things? Well, I know a lot of Catholics that are into BDSM. It's true. Yeah.

And what's that for me? I think both of your fantasies, Adam, are completely fine. And I think that's a lot of things

that a bunch of people dream of. I mean, I know that I've definitely done a bunch of strap-on scenes, and I think it's very empowering

for a woman to have a strap-on with their partner that she's with at the time, just as long as the doctor was saying, as long as everything's safe

and everything is under everybody's will and you have an agreement on how far or how big or how long it wants to go, then I think it's completely fine.

And as long as the girl that you want to tie down is okay with it and you have boundaries set up. Oh, whoa. I guess Adam was probably jacking off.

Maybe he lives at home with his parents. Uh-oh. That's 21. Yeah.

But good answer nonetheless. Thank you. Satisfaction. Oh, and lubrication.

Lots of lubrication. Lots of lubrication. Oh, especially with that strap-on. Ouch.

Back to give sodomy a chance. Right. Absolutely. Okay, so now speaking of give sodomy a chance,

maybe we should give the song a chance, right? Good idea. Want to play a professor's song. And would you like to step up on the stage

and sort of interpret the song? I would love to. Yes, I would absolutely love to. Why don't you come on up here?

Awesome. And yes, professor, or Paul, tell us a little bit more about the song and crying for Kafka.

So the band Crying For Kafka, we've opened for bad religion and the lead guitarist at Nine Inch Nails has played with us.

And we're kind of a, we describe ourselves as a quasi-punk, a mythopoetic quasi-punk rock band. We're playing the Roxy on the 14th.

The Roxy on the 14th. Very good. If you want to see us live. So now you're going to give us your keys?

Okay. Drummers Brandon, lawyers. Oh, yeah. Oh, we've got band members here.

Yes. A band member, drummers there. Okay. Brandon, the tux.

Hey, band members, you want to come up and sit in these chairs? Tux and our managers here. Have a better look at the performance.

And our lawyers should come up here. Yeah. Terry. Terry.

And actually, let me get, this microphone is here so that until we start, you can have a,

oh, you want to say hello? You have a microphone, but you shouldn't use it while you're getting up there.

You should be free. So, okay. So, say hello. Hi.

Nobody wants to talk into the microphone. Hello. Hello. Hi, everybody.

Hi. Hi, Connie. Hi. Okay.

So you're all part of the band? Yes. All right. She's our manager,

our drummer, and our attorney here. The representing the band. Awesome.

Crying for Kafka. Crying for Kafka. Perfect. Yes.

Well, this is the trial, baby. Yeah. Speaking of cockroaches. Yeah.

Okay. So now we have Courtney Taylor, who is going to interpret this, not having heard it before at all.

This is Give Sodomy a Chance. Spontaneous. And basically, she's going to do strip tease

and get up on the stripper pole. So you might want to move your drink there, captain. Geez.

Paul, do you want to give a little explanation of the song and the lyrics before it goes on? So I'll give a little explanation of it.

The lyrics, so the chorus of it is Give Sodomy a Chance. So it's Sodomy. It's Sodomy.

Give Sodomy a Chance. Sodomy, Sodomy. Give Sodomy a Chance. And the lyrics are misfit.

It's really about the hypocrisy that underlies the way we pathologize and criminalize Sodomy, particularly gay rights.

So the lyrics are misfit, hypocrite, full of shit, Jesuit, making bets, no regrets, spinning like pirouettes,

Oscar Wilde, love child, Jack Spicer, recon style, freedom, delirium, pendulum, and sugar plums.

It's Sodomy. It's Sodomy. Give Sodomy a Chance. So you know how to interpret all this.

And then the second part is about a... Just give Sodomy a chance. Once I hear it, I feel like the music will just take control.

It will. Whatever the song wants, my body will do. Exactly.

That's what she's going to do. Okay. And this, brothers and sisters, is Tasia Sooter, our producer.

But I have to take these off first. Okay. Oh, yeah. Take those off first.

That's fine. That's fine. Take them off first. Yeah, because it's hard to get those off

and rhythm to the music. It's true. Those are just, you know, they need spray on pants, I think.

Here she goes. Okay. So did we give it enough explanation of the song? And the second part of the song

is about the Supreme Court justice. Oh, I see the boots back on. Okay. And she's got some nice panties for Panty Boy.

Did you notice Panty Boy tweeting you about panties all over the place? Yes. Okay.

Where's your microphone? Here it is. Okay. I did notice Panty Boy tweeting me.

And did you wear special panties? I did. Oh, those are very cute panties. Look at that.

Please take it wild. Oh, get... Get wild. Okay.

With Courtney Taylor. Uh-huh. All right. So here we go.

She's got her boots on and no pants. All right. And we are about to hear Give Sodomy a Chance

by crying for Kafka. Here we go. Okay. Wait.

Your label is showing. Yes, brothers and sisters. Give Sodomy a Chance. Crying for Kafka.

Featuring Courtney Taylor. Pick an adult play parlor toy. Oh, yeah. Any time you'd like to dance at one of our shows,

you're welcome to do that. Glowing finger. Speak to our manager over here. This one's for me.

Well, I... Or perhaps our drummer. This is an octopus. That's a vibrating octopus.

Well, this is amazing. I don't think I've ever had an octopus. And there's a bunch of condoms here. Here, have a lollipop.

Now here, take any condoms and finger O. This is perfect. Perfect. Okay.

Amazing. And professor, would you like a... Thank you. A toy from adult play parlor.

Thank you for allowing us to jump here. Those are our emergency panties. 911 panties. Oh, yes.

We also have 911 panties right here. Just in case. Yeah. If you need some panties.

You should pick some panties. I will. Do you need one if I tell you? I might want to change.

Any guys want panties? Oh, this guy. All right. So that was great.

Brandon, you need a panty. Thank you. That was hot. You seemed like you were surprised.

We didn't even tell you anything about what kind of song it was. No. You know what? I just...

I felt the music. But you went with it. I went with it. Great job.

Well, I felt like I had a great song to work with. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Give Sonoma a chance.

Wow. She knows how to work. We have a few more. Right?

Right. You got it. No, it was a pleasure. Thank you for letting me dance to your song.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you for dancing to the song. We are so thankful right now.

And Candy Boy would like to say hello to Dr. Suzy and to Max. By the way, he wrote Max. And Tasia and Courtney Taylor. He's not saying hello to the professor only because the professor is not on Twitter.

All right, Candy Boy. I have a surprise for you tonight. I have executive diapers. Oh, my God.

That's it. All right? They are. You don't have to move from where you are.

That's true. They're amazing. You can just push away. And actually, you have an extra supply of them because you don't really need them

anymore. And I'll send you a pair. Yeah. You don't really need them.

A used pair. They're kind of cool. Are these the ones developed by astronauts? Probably, yes.

They're really amazing. They're amazing. Should I go back down there? Where do you want to go?

What do you think, brothers and sisters? I think you should stay up here so we can all look at her. I think you should stay up here. We'll be there in a few minutes.

And we're also wondering if you might wish to sample our new Sybian. Oh, gosh. Absolutely. I've been looking forward to it.

I've honestly been looking forward to it. And would that be before or after the agua? That is whenever you want, actually. But let's do it now.

Awesome. We're going to try out the Sybian. We're all going to be thankful. First, here's your little vibrant.

I'm just going to put this over. Wherever you want to. This is your area. Don't you take her vibrator now.

You better not. Can I play with it? No. You can not play with it.

Okay. Now. Only if we play together. That's the only way.

Nice comeback. Right? Now, are these panties for the donation? Or you want to take these home?

It doesn't matter. Whatever you would prefer. Whatever. Isn't she sweet?

Whatever. Because we'd let you wear some other panties. Well, I picked a pair. You did.

Okay. You want to put those on? Absolutely. Okay.

I'll hold your microphone. Panty changed. I made sure my vagina was perfect. Now, that was off camera.

Oh, yeah. I mean, off microphone. She said she wanted to make sure her vagina was perfect. Which I'm sure it was anyway.

But what did you do to it? I just wanted to make sure I'm cleanly shaven. I see. Okay.

I see. I am. Are you happy about that, Mac? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, look at those teeny tiny little panties. Oh, yes. These are very nice. Oh, yes.

Okay. Now, here she is on the Sybian. All right. And here's your microphone.

Now, this is the controls right here. We turn it. Oh, it is on, actually. And now, you feel it?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Now, you're just right on it right now.

This is the outside. This is for the junior sessions. Let's move this. The junior sessions.

Yeah. Because this is just without an attachment for insertion, which would require one of those nasty condoms. But right now, she's just riding on top of it.

Should I turn it up? Mm-hmm. Keep going up. Keep going up.

Keep going up. Up. Okay. Now, the radio audience can hear now.

This is the Sybian. Venus tooth. No, this is the Sybian machine for women. They make a Venus 2000 for men.

Actually, it sounds like a Tesla. Okay. She's got it. She's got it on high now.

Whoa. Maybe we need to put it on rotation. Mm-hmm. You want me to hold this for you?

There you go. Courtney Taylor, brothers and sisters. Riding the Sybian for the first time on Radio Susie One. Full speed.

No attachments. Get an attachment. Yeah. Let's hear it, brothers and sisters, for Courtney Taylor on the Sybian.

Wow. So what'd you think? I mean, we heard, but. Oh, God.

I'm like sweating. Amazing. It was just amazing. Yeah.

Whoo. I mean. Whoo. My tits are sweating.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got so into it. I was impressed.

And of course, there's not even an attachment on it yet. My butt's sweating. Is it what's sweating? Yeah.

What's got the minimal attachment? We'll let you relax. Which was great enough. Yeah.

You could try a real attachment in a little while. Just like looking in between my tits are like just. Oh, I feel it. Yeah.

It's very impressive. A little glistening. She's glowing, brothers and sisters. Professor, had you ever seen a Sybian in action?

I have never seen a Sybian in action. Well, professor, I think that should be part of your education. I was just educated. Yes.

What did you think? Interesting. I hope it doesn't intimidate you or any other man out there because of course. That's nothing.

Right. What are you joking? I've tried all the attachments now and I have to show you what the rotation actually does. Oh.

It's funny looking when it's just doing it on its own. Yeah. When it's rotating on its own. Okay.

We're going to have to see that. The rotation on its own. Okay. Here we go.

What is that saran wrap? That is saran wrap. Yes. This is large-sized saran wrap.

Professor, this is our safe sex here. I mean. Good. A condom can't cover the Sybian.

That's for sure. Maybe your company can make something for this. I'll talk to them if they fit about that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Talk to them about this. Okay.

So we got this one. This is a nice... It doesn't look like a guy. For the sake of the guy, should we have one that looks like a guy?

You know, because they always like, okay, there we go. There we go. See, this represents the male. Okay.

Yeah. That's how you guys are shaped, right? Okay. Never mind.

That's pretty good. Now, you can't discount how that might feel inside, brothers and sisters. Okay. Yeah.

Turn it up. Okay. Yeah. That's a fast rotation.

But that's a nice big circle. See, he's saying turn it up because he can rotate much more on his own. Ooh. Much faster.

Right. You bet. Oh, look at this one. Now, okay.

This is like a puppet. Well, isn't that what it is? It is a puppet. Well, thank you so much for letting me ride that.

Well, my pleasure. I mean, I enjoyed watching you ride that. Oh, it felt amazing. Yeah.

I have to say. Yeah. Well, you know, like you can take a break, but you should try riding it with an attachment. The real thing.

What? Yeah. Okay. You know, here's a whole selection of attachments.

We have it on a saran wrap tray. Condom tray. Condom tray. Well, these are not condom.

These are, well, I guess. They get the good housing feel of approval. There you go. There's one shaped like a finger here.

And there's even a finger? Yeah. Look at the finger. Actually, the finger is very good for putting one of the, for putting this guy on.

On top of it. Yeah. Look, see? All right.

Okay. So, and then we have this guy. Wow. This is impressive.

That's, you would, could you take that? I don't, I mean. This one for Sodom. Oh yeah.

This one. Remember Sodom is oral and anal. Oral and anal. But who wants to suck a dildo really, except some guys?

Just clarifying. Most girls don't want to suck dildos unless they're doing it like for webcam or something. Exactly. Right.

And press somebody. But, all right. Well, I mean, what do you think? Well, let's figure this out.

I don't know this. What was the one that was just on here? Well, that was this guy here. No, no.

This was the, yeah. This guy? This guy. Yeah, this guy.

Yeah, that guy looks perfect. Well, you know, this guy. He's a man after my own dreams right there. Yeah.

I don't know if this will fit on here. No, no, no. Here, we put the finger on. Isn't that odd?

The finger is the one that goes on under the things. Okay, here you go. Isn't that always, it always starts with the finger though. It does.

It always starts with the finger. Right. A nice finger can hit the spot. So, you don't have much about sex toys in your book, Professor.

They're implied. They're implied. They're just there. They're there.

I guess there's not a lot of morality involved. No, but it's again, you know, the consensual adult, that kind of thing. But they should make more sex toys for men, right? There's so many sex toys for women.

Well, I'm assuming there's certainly a gay audience. They're designed and perfected for that. Oh, and Robert Conson. Yeah.

Okay, here we go. So, this is a condom. We are putting now on the dildo, on the saran wrap. We have condoms, saran wrap.

Everything is all set. Very safe. Okay. Now, should we have another professor's song here?

How about crying for Kafka's song to do the striptease of the panties. And then to get on here. There's Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad. Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad.

Okay. One moment, please. I love it. Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad.

I think that sounds, you know, appropriate, I guess, in some fashion. It's not, the music is. The story isn't. But I'll tell you the story afterwards. Oh, okay.

You don't think we should know the story before? No, no. Okay, then we'll take a call from Brad, who is in LA, on line one. Hi, Brad.

Brad would like to masturbate with you. Ooh. I will court me. Hi, Brad.

How are you, baby? Oh, I've been waiting for you all night. Oh, good. I'm so glad.

Yeah. Wow. He sounds so romantic. He does.

Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to have a little song here, and Courtney's going to do a striptease to the professor's song, Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad.

And did you have any other requests for what Courtney might do, Brad? I would love to hear on that series again before the very trial. I'm getting on it, baby. Yeah.

And she's going to get on it with the attachment. And so first we're going to have a song, and so you can kind of do a striptease, and then you'll get on the Sybian with the attachment. Ooh, there's a Peter Piper right here.

Ooh. Hi. This is for later. Ooh.

For the girl. Yeah. Okay. So now, oh, and we have Lou, very good.

Perfect. So let's have the song, okay. And Brad, do you want to hang out on the phone? Or do you want to hang up and call us back?

No, I'll hang out. You'll hang out? Yeah. Don't hurt them.

Hang out. Okay. All right. So now we're going to hear Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad by UCLA professor

Abramson, Paul Abramson, and Crying for Kafka. Fuck Mom, Fuck Dad, Fuck All The Memories I Never Had. Fuck Dad, you know, I listened to that, and I feel like it's so naughty. And then I think it's a psychology professor, you know, like the teacher did that.

And it's a disconnect, you know? When I tell you the story behind it, it'll be less of a disconnect. Ah. Okay.

Should we hear the story or should we? Move on. The story, I think we'll wait a while. We're going to wait a minute for the story.

The story is kind of a downer. Yeah. And we right now have Courtney Taylor, who did a lovely strip tease to your little tune there.

And she is now going to ride the Sybian with the attachment, brothers and sisters. This is the penile attachment, which has been covered with a very nice condom from Condomania and Lube from Adult Play Parlor. Okay.

So we have all our sponsors in there. And we have Courtney Taylor. Hot blonde bombshell is going to bomb the Sybian right now. Where's the microphone?

Let's hear her sounds. Here she goes. And let's turn it on. Tejas at the controls.

Okay. We'll start with a little rotation. See if you can even feel it. Because I wasn't sure what, I didn't realize I was doing all that.

Maybe you should start with a little vibrator. Get the vibrator going a little. The vibrator. Get the vibrator going.

Whoa. Tejas wicked. She's doing a rotation. Yeah.

She's trying to. She's doing it. It'll tickle your G. Oh yeah.

Need a little spanking. Right here. Need a little choking. Always.

Right at count girl. Ride that Sybian. It's also fun to sit up. Oh yeah.

And like sit all the way on it. And kind of. Holy fuck balls. Let's hear it for sister Courtney.

Courtney Taylor. On the Sybian. Woo hoo. She got the attachment came off in her pretty.

This can happen brothers and sisters. All right. Look at that. Look at that.

Someone take the picture right there. And. I'm seeing them. These are the two.

I love them. I know. I think we have to report this to the company. Yeah.

Okay. Very good. That was beautiful. Or maybe I'm supposed to read the.

Instructions all the way. Oh yeah. Maybe got a little excited. That was very exciting.

So. Oh I forgot about. Oh there he is. Chris.

Wait. Who is. Who is that that's there. Brad.

Brad. How you doing Brad. Oh Courtney. Hi Brad.

What are you doing Courtney. Oh Brad I just came so hard. Oh she's beautiful. Oh God that felt so good.

Talk about sex appeal. Oh Courtney. Oh. Wait wait wait.

Where's your credit card. The fuck man. What are you riding over there Brad. He's riding his hand.

He is riding his hand. He's definitely riding his hand. Brad I'm glad that you got so excited watching me. Thank you so much.

I got so excited too. Oh. Thank goodness. Everyone got excited.

Anybody else get excited raise your hand. Oh. That was very exciting. All right Brad.

See you later. Okay wash your hands. He's a goner. All right brothers and sisters.

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Test test. If you want to ride the Sybian with us. I don't know if you could do it again. Oh.

It did it to you. But it did me well. It did me amazing. Can you describe the orgasm?

Oh gosh. It's a completely different orgasm than having sex honestly. It's a completely different orgasm. I don't know.

It just feels great. There's so many things going on. It's just drilling you. It's just drilling me honestly from the inside, the outside.

You get it all together at once. And by the way. The operators are standing by at our shopping cart. Oh yes.

You can get the Sybian through the shopping cart. That's correct. That's true. You can just go through the front page.

That's right. Help support the bonobos. We make some money. Doctorsismblock.com.

We make a few bucks off. The fucking revolution costs money. Buy stuff from us. That's right.

Okay. Keep the show going. Fuck mom. Fuck dad.

Pay us. Well anyway. We should find out what this fuck mom, fuck dad. I mean is it something like the old doors song?

A little bit. The story behind it is the song is in recognition of the kind of horrendous things that happen to kids. The default option is everyone has good parents, but a lot of kids don't.

Sure. And the song is in recognition to that. And I worked on a horrendous, absolutely horrendous case of what a mother and a friend did to this six year old kid.

And I presented a sanitized version of the case to my class at UCLA and I had a student faint and another scream. We had to call the paramedics and whatever else. And when I worked on the case, I walked away for one day and I just heard my head, this

refrain, which is the chorus of the song, which is fuck mom, fuck dad, fuck all the memories I never had, fuck honor, fuck obey, fuck the wrath of judgment day. And so when we play the song, I always tell the story afterwards. And it's testimony to the horrendous things that can happen to kids and also recognition

of what they've gone through. It's supportive. Not everybody's had a fairy tale upbringing. Sure.

And sometimes it's because of abuse and sometimes it's because of just repression. It's because of different things that we can find release in saying fuck mom, fuck dad. Exactly. It's like, you know, if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.

I mean, you got to kill your father and your mother, something like that. It's what you've got to do to grow up. And especially you've got lousy parents. But I think even if you don't have lousy parents, you kind of have to do it.

And so this is really about, the song is really about in recognition the lousy parents. And I've been involved in cases which, you know, just horrendous. And so, and that's why the book starts, the sex appeal starts at the first.

But let's not limit the song to that. No, no, no. I think anybody can relate to that, really. Definitely.

To wanting to rebel against the old generation. And actually, when the last words are in that phrase of all the fucks, the last word is fuck is rage, fuck is jest. We use it in all different kinds of ways.

And so it's universal in that respect. Righto. And I often wonder about the horrendous thing that us American people have done to Arab children, things that are unspeakable.

And sometimes we have to be aware of those things, blowing them up through smithereens, torturing them. So that they can't say fuck is rage. Yes, that's correct.

They didn't even have a chance to say that. And so they've got a buzz in my ear or something. There's a buzz in everybody's ear. This song is exactly what Max is saying.

It's about a slice of that pie. And I might add that in today's war, of course, the military is totally separate from civilians. Two million people have served over there

in the killing fields of the deserts. That's not anything to do with our population when you were inducted into the army. And so you were aware of what was going on.

And so today Americans are not aware. In the meantime, our troops are over there. Yeah, and they're shooting up a storm. I mean, there was some craziness that went on last week.

Some guys supposedly went crazy. Some of the villagers say that he was with other guys though. Anyway, I think we're going to have to leave Afghanistan. We're leaving.

So on that note, we are leaving. And we're the wait, make love, not war kind of folks here. We're like the bonobos. And I have some people at the microphones

who I don't know if I've introduced. Should I introduce them? Sure. Yeah?

This is the lawyer here. This is Terry Gross. He's the lawyer for Burning Man. For Burning Man.

What do they get in trouble for? You have to defend them? Yeah, my job is really to put a protective shield over the event. Like a condom.

Well, a little less sanitized than that. One of the first things when I started going out there and started seeing what happened, one of the first things that was happening,

one of the things that happens is a lot of people go there and find that they can radically express themselves, express themselves in ways that they can't in their everyday life. And one of the things that was happening was we were seeing,

you know, people were finding on the Internet a lot of pictures of naked women or people were coming out and videoing them in these kinds of situations where they really believed,

even though they were in the middle of thousands of people, the feeling is that it's really a private group out there. That's what it is. It's sort of like what happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas.

But so my first job, the first thing that I had to do was basically to stop these pictures of people that were ending up on the Internet without their consent. Dirty job.

Somebody's got to do it. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that because I'd probably be one of the people taking pictures.

It's the posting them, that was the problem. Oh, well, of course I'd post them. What could have taken pictures if you can't post them? That's no fun.

But all right, so yeah, that's why I get people to sign releases. You always have to have them sign releases and then you can't have them bark afterwards.

They've joined some church or their husband wants child support from them or whatever they complain about. And I don't know.

That's why I get them all to sign releases. So we have a basic, basically on the back of the ticket, the online terms,

it basically says no use of any images without... Well, if you take your pants off and dance around in the after party, I can use those images. I just want you to know that right now.

I'm... I'm forewarned. I signed the release. Oh, I want to talk to her.

Well, welcome, Terry. Don't sue me for anything. And then to Max's right is our drummer, the Crying for Kafka drummer, Brandon Tebow.

He's a second-generation drummer. He's an incredible drummer. You have to see him at the Roxy on the 14th. I remember we had a show at the Roxy.

Yeah, very good. And then to his right is our manager. Lovely manager. Let's see this manager.

This is Kate. She runs Electric Sex Enterprises. What are you wearing? Some interesting pantyhose under your jeans?

Oh, look at this. Come on, come on up here. Ask her about her long tattoo, because she's a psychology major.

And the long tattoo has something to do with psychology. Teja, bring... Our Aguas shots, Teja,

now while we're hearing about this tattoo. The lady with the long tattoo. I'll ask you what the tattoo is. Look at this cut-off sort of...

And look at her shorts pantyhose on the shorts, with the fence pattern on the shorts. This is all very... Yeah, significant here.

Okay, and interesting shoes as well. Okay, so now we have to let her use your microphone now. And then explain the tattoo under her rider, that one.

Oh, look at this. It's a neuron. This is a neuron, okay. It's a psychology major.

I think you have to take the top off. Okay, I'll hold the microphone for a second. Just take the top. Thank you, Brian.

Thank you, Brian. Okay, so now show the thing here. Okay, this is

some tattoo here. She's Electric Sex Enterprises. Electric... Hmm.

Crying for Kafka Manager. Okay, and now you may speak. Hi. What was that you were going to say?

Oh, I don't know. You have a story behind the tattoo or something? Yeah, I was a psychology student. I worked at a psych research lab at UCSB.

And psychology's just always been a big factor in my life. What do you mean psychology's a big factor in your life?

The mind, you know. It's everything. And do you have a favorite psychologist? Besides me.

I know. That was my first thought. I was like, oh, Paul. Well, you could say him. Okay, Paul.

All right, cool. So have you seen this movie about Jung and Freud? I mean, they're not...

I haven't seen it. It's supposed to be good. It's supposed to be good. Yeah, it's... Did you see it? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty intense. Well, we shouldn't talk about it

if you haven't seen it, but all about how sadistic and crazy psychiatrist can be. Yeah. Maybe psychologists, too, if you give them a little

rope. Yeah, so to speak. Now, we have agua shots. Is everybody over 21? Yeah, are you over 21?

Yeah, we're over 21 here. Okay. I don't drink. Oh, you don't drink. Well, then you can offer up a part of yourself, though,

for the drinkers to lick agua salt off of. Okay. You have a recommendation.

You notice I said you can. You don't have to. It's consensual. Here, come in over here. Where's the salt? Okay.

Aren't you glad you came? I have. Okay, so here we go. How does this go?

Okay, good question. You look very game, and I feel as though manager, name,

what is your name? Kate. Kate, you look nervous. I'm going to let you sit on that side, and I will demonstrate on my other guest,

and then you can decide what you want to do. Okay, so here you go. So. Is it kind of like a tequila shot? Here, take the microphone. Kind of

like a tequila shot? Kind of. Yeah, you know, what you do is you put the salt. This looks

like something illegal, okay? But it is lime salt. Does it go on your nose? No.

That would definitely be very painful. No way, no. But you put it on a nice body surface, like the nipples are very nice.

And then you lick it off, and then you do your shot. Sounds amazing. Sounds amazing. Absolutely amazing. I think you're ready to do it off of me.

I am. Okay. So here you go. So, first, you just lick the nipple, like so.

And then we salt it up. There we go. A little salt there. Now, it's very salty, so be ready.

I'm okay with salt. And down we go. Upside down, balls. Yeah. Actually, that's a good idea.

You have to put the balls upside down. Balls up, right, to get it all out there, right? That was amazing. Thank you.

That was amazing. Yes, you're preparing your nipple. I actually have lipstick around your tit.

Look at my lip markers right there. Aww, that's very romantic. It is. You look like you would like

to offer your boobs up. But she doesn't drink. That's right. I guess I'll have to.

Okay. So lean back. Oh, a double? Double.

Double for double Ds. Everyone like Taysh's outfit, Brothers and Sisters? Yes, it's wonderful.

Taysh is getting ready for Easter. Lean back right against that finger there. Yeah, that's good. I don't know.

Bring the monkey up here. Oh, he's actually a gorilla. Let's get specific about our primates. Okay.

Here we go. So, yeah. Geez. Salt.

Salt. Okay. This is a very important speakeasy ritual.

Made him stand up. Okay, balls up. All right then. All right.

So that is our ritual. Professor? Salt? No, thank you.

I don't drink either. All right. Okay, then I would have you ride the monkey rock. All right.

My attorney will do it instead. I think Brandon might want to. How about Brandon might want to? I'm pacing myself.

Yeah, no salt for you. It's something about drinking from a penis just doesn't really do it for me. Well, you know what?

We could put that in another container, right? Yeah, got a vagina over there. Well, you know what? Any cup is really...

There you go. Brandon is very resourceful. He found himself a vaginally shaped cup. Okay.

So now you would like the tits of your choice? Oh, I have to come up here. No, no, they'll come over to you. They'll come to you.

But I think it has to be off tits, correct? It has to be off a body part. It could be off of a butt, you know. It can be off of anything.

Yeah, but off of a body part. Yes, body part. No inanimate objects. No, you can't be doing it off of the furniture.

Well, I'm not going to lick my manager. Okay. You're not going to lick your manager. All right, then I guess it's you, Courtney.

Okay, is that okay with you? Absolutely. He looks like a clean young man. No, he's fine.

Okay, I'm coming over there. All right, here we go. Courtney Taylor offering her

boobs. I think he's going to choose boobs. We'll need a picture of this for a band photo. You know, this is sodomy.

Here we go. What do you think here? Would you prefer tits or ass? Yeah, tits or ass.

I think he's going to be on camera. Oh, no, no, no. This is all on camera and you did sign a release, so he can't see me.

Oh, I'm fine with that. This might even become your album cover. I'm not complaining. So look good, okay?

Kind of, you know, get yourself smoothed out there. Lick and then saw. Yeah, he's taking advantage of the lick moment here.

Yeah, he's definitely making it happen on Courtney Taylor's... Oh, and he's got a lot of...

You know, you got to lick that all up. He won't have a problem. He likes salt. He likes tits.

Yeah, he likes salt, okay. He wouldn't like Courtney's tits. All right. All right, look at that.

Why do I feel like this is a crying Krakowka bachelor party or something like that? Anyway...

Did you ever see him do something like that? Not yet. I know. What do you think?

Is your estimation of him changed? Not at all. Would you let him do it off of your tits? I would.

You would let him do it off of your tits. Can we see that? Yeah, let's do that. Let's go for that.

You know, I sometimes stumble into these wonderful things. Thanks, Izzy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Here we go. Manager of... Yes, he does need another drink. Teja, another drink there for...

See, you inspired him. Oh, look at these lovely titties. Yes. The manager has beautiful little titties

and now we can really see that tattoo. You should hold your arm up a little bit. Yeah, hold that arm up.

Beautiful, beautiful tattoo. Okay, that really looks nice. Nothing wrong. Look what you inspired her to do.

Thank goodness. You have gorgeous tits. You have absolutely gorgeous tits. I like the ribs too. Nice ribs.

I love ribs. All right. Take a tit. Take a tit.

Oh, yeah. Take a tit or two. Take a tit or two. He's stumbling around the glasses there.

Yeah. Now he's going to put the powder on. This is being recorded in stereo. Okay.

Video and photographs. Your mouth on those tits. Manager tits. Yup.

Yummy. All right. Wonderful. Great job, guys.

You really inspired them. I would hope so. I'm just going after you, mama. You're bringing us all closer together.

This is sex appeal. I mean, your second commandment professor if you want to call them commandments. And by the way, I want to give you a copy of my book.

Thank you. Ten Commandments of Pleasure. Can we hear the commandments? Which is based on ethical hedonism.

The six of them. Where's the book? The professor book. Right here.

Here we go. First is do no harm. Like the doctors. Do no harm.

That's the first thing. You don't know what you really need to do. It's actually great. It's a negative first commandment.

Just don't do anything wrong. Just don't hurt people. Unless they really want to be hurt. That's a different thing.

Imagine what kind of world it would be if people stopped harming each other sexually. How much better the world would be. She likes to be harmed.

What we're saying when we say do no harm means non-consensual. Exactly. The non-consensual.

You know if that's like Tasia, right? Yes. Okay. So we don't like that. Okay. Number two.

Celebrate sex. That's what we were doing. That's why I brought that up. I feel that that's

what we do here. We do a lot of things. We discuss sex. We bring up uncomfortable things sometimes.

And of course Max often goes on tirades. And we're very anti-war. But mostly we celebrate sex. That's mostly what we do.

Ride the Sybian. Have orgasms. Yeah. Okay. Number three.

When the professor be careful when you're doing all that celebrating so you don't fall off the stage. All that celebrating.

Hey, you got to be careful. You got to wear your safety belts. Your seat belts. Because sex is dangerous.

Especially when you're having fun. Right. Well said right there. It's dangerous when you're having fun.

Exactly. Four. Know yourself. Okay. This is very important. Socrates said know thyself.

I say know thysex. And the professor says know yourself. And that means

to get to know all aspects of yourself. Your sexual self. Look into who you are. You might want to go to a therapist.

A little plug there for the therapist. You don't have to be all messed up. You might just want to get to know yourself.

Right. Six seven zero zero zero six six on Skype. It's two one three five nine nine seven three nine eight. Okay. So anyway.

Know yourself. Read books. Get to know yourself. Talk about it. Anyway. Get to know yourself. Five. Speak up. Speak out.

Always. Yeah. Communicate. Communicate with your partner. That's speaking up. And speaking out is about communicating

with the community. With, you know, writing letters to the editor. Doing your radio show.

Oh yeah. Right. I guess I'm speaking up. Yeah you are. Exactly. Do you know actually she's been doing this for twenty seven years?

Well that's important. Twenty seven years. Scary. She started when she was ten.

Yeah. I was abused. I was abused. They made me do a radio show. Okay.

Speak up. Fuck mom. Fuck dad. Oh definitely. Daddy.

Okay. Six. Throw no stones. Okay. This is real important. What does that mean?

Throw no stones means that it comes from an old saying people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Meaning if you have vulnerabilities don't be hurting somebody else because if you hurt somebody else they can hurt you. If you throw a stone

at somebody else they can throw a stone at you and your glass house will break and you will be like exposed. And that's how we all are.

We all live in glass houses. We all have problems. We all have sexual issues. We all do. Absolutely. Everyone does.

So when you start throwing stones when you start judging unless of course the person is doing the harm unless there's like a rape taking place

then if you're just throwing stones because somebody doesn't have sex the way you think sex ought to be then that's I think

the professor is saying wrong. Okay. Very well said. Very well interpreted. A great message.

A plus. A plus. Excuse me. A plus. That's the point. It's very easy for people to pathologize

someone else's sexuality. It's different than theirs. So we all live in glass houses don't throw stones. We do. We do.

So basically it's kind of just don't judge. Don't judge on each other's sexual preferences. Maybe. Anti-gay, anti-whatever.

Well I think it's more, I mean you can help it in a way when you judge internally when you're thinking oh I don't like that. I think you can't help that.

But what the professor I think is saying is don't take the next step and throw a stone. Don't try to interfere with that person's

liberties. Don't try to hurt them. Don't advocate against them. That makes perfect sense. I mean you could advocate.

You just shouldn't stop them. You could say you know I think golden showers are disgusting, but if somebody wants to put on something.

Shooting abortion doctors is really tangible harm. There you go. That's throwing a major

stone. Being a Republican. I love the way the manager is hanging out with the cross between her tits.

I keep going back to number two. Celebrate sex. That's my favorite. But speak up, speak out is kind of good.

And I kind of take that. I don't think that's only about speaking verbally, but it's also sometimes about expressing yourself

physically. Which some of the lovely ladies are doing. Men are a little more uptight about them.

But that's another show. Right. Okay. Is this time right now?

This time is right. Thank you for the wonderful overview of the book. You can use that.

It's great. I shouldn't hold it upside down though. Sex appeal. The publisher is Oxford University Press.

You can get it online through Amazon and all those other places. Right, right, right. You mentioned the bonobos

in your book, and I should mention the bonobos, too. Oh, can you get Frans de Waal to come to the show?

I'll ask him. Ask him. I would love to have him. I think he's, well, anyway. I'd like to have him on. I know he's Dutch.

Yeah, he's Dutch. We won't hold them against him. Xavier Alhounder's Dutch, too. Happy Booker.

Yeah. I'm Willem Dritter. Okay, so the bonobos, hey, are the Make Love Not War chimpanzees,

and they do make an appearance or two in Sex Appeal. Because these are kissin' cousins

who swing through the trees as well as with each other. By the way, I'm going to be doing a talk on bonobos for SSSS.

Do you know about Qantas? I was the editor of the journal Sex Research. Oh, wow. Okay, well, you should come. I'm going to do a talk on bonobos

and that's on 420. Oh, my favorite holiday. My favorite holiday the whole year.

Get up early, smoke a ball, and come to my lecture as it is. Stop at the club if you can legally smoke.

Stop at the club and then come here. We're going to have an after-party with all these crazy sex therapists that are coming in.

On the 21st, we're going to have an after-party. We're going to have a bunch of the professors. You're invited. But that's after you come to the Roxy

show on the 14th. You're busy this month. You'll have a busy patch. Anyway,

the bonobos are highly endangered and so we have adopted some. We encourage you to adopt them too

because they're still shooting them in the jungle. These are kissing cousins who have all kinds of sex including

peace through pleasure sex. Sex that actually diffuses violent tensions so that there has never been seen a bonobo killing

another bonobo in the wild or captivity. It's amazing. Which is different from the chimpanzees.

The common chimps, they kill each other not as much as humans of course. Nobody kills each other as much as humans. But they're also warriors and they

raid your territories. Common chimps, they make a kind of war. What my talk is about is how common chimps have always

been used as a paradigm for human behavior and baboons too. But why not bonobos?

After all, bonobos are just as close to us as common chimps, a lot closer to them than baboons. Republicans don't like them. No, Republicans make fun of them.

They say, oh, they're the hippie. The hippie apes. Well... I give them a hippie.

They're getting laid. The males are getting laid. The females are hot. Do you know what's interesting about the

bonobos? Do you know what the most frequent form of sexual expression is among the bonobos? Well, not regular intercourse.

I'm not sure what the... It's female development. Where they rub their vulvas together. One wraps their legs around the other

and they hold. We're going to have to do that. The interesting thing about what results from it, it's a matriarchy.

The bonobos are a female run calyx and social organization. That's what this place is. It's wonderful.

It is true that a lot of places that have a free exploration of sex, such as this place,

or your typical swing party, are run by women. If women don't run it, it gets a little out of control.

Hectic, yeah. Women running it is a bonobo thing. Why do the guys put up with it?

Because they're getting laid. That's why. They put up with it. Women.

The bonobo guys are actually bigger and stronger than the females, but they put up with it. It's like around here, us guys just sit out in front

and the girls do all the work. It's kind of like that. You're getting laid, Max. I'm getting laid, baby.

First dibs on the food. Make like bonobos, not baboons. I have to go around

and have everyone give out their information. I forgot about that. So you. Where do we find you? Courtney Taylor.

You can find me on Twitter at CourtTaylorXXX. All right. CourtTaylorXXX.

Twitter. We'll be tweeting back and forth pictures. She's going to get her own page. Yeah.

You're going to get a Speakeasy Star page. You're going to have your own page. Oh, my gosh. You're coming back for the professors.

If you like this one, there's going to be a whole bunch of them. Oh, please. It was such a pleasure. Thank you for having me here today. Thank you so much.

Professor, where do we find you? Soon on Twitter. Soon on Twitter. But you can find my books anywhere online

through Amazon. We have to go over that name again. It's a little difficult to remember. Professor Paul Abramson.

Okay. Like Son of Abraham. And I write for the LA Weekly. We have our own column now called Riot Act.

I used to write for the LA Weekly. All right. So we have that in common. We do.

Crying for Kafka has its own YouTube channel. So if you want to check out Crying for Kafka in our videos, check out Crying for Kafka YouTube. And Hellflowers.

And Hellflowers in LA. It's another thing I do for LA Weekly. All right. And I want the manager to say something.

I mean, you can plug something. Okay. You can chain out. My website, which is

electricexent.com or facebook.com slash electric sex. You're not on Twitter.

No. So I've heard. You have to take your top off on public. Then you can get Twittering.

Yeah, I know. That's how it goes. And you can promote something, whatever you want. Go crying for Kafka.

All right. Okay. And Mr. Counselor here? One of the things why Burning Man is out in the middle of the desert is because it needs to be a journey to get there.

It's everyone should come unless you're willing to go through into that hostile environment in that place.

So if people want to find me, they've got to figure out how to get there. It's a journey. Max, how do we find you?

You can find me either at USC or Home away from home. Or here at Bonoboville

where I've been for many years. Go Keck Medical. It was great. The student nurse came in with this other guy.

I saw her. She was very hot. And she irrigated me. Play with your balls. She played with my ball.

I said lift them up a little more. This is what you use to irrigate my leg. Man, I'm telling you. Okay.

Right at the p-hole. And ouch. That's what irrigation is all about. So that was kind of fun.

So, no, we can irrigate both. This is how you do it actually. Here, hold this. This is what you do.

Right here. This is it. No, balls down for this. Okay, here we go.

Okay, I would be getting water in there right now. Or pee or whatever. I was doing this. I was a nurse.

Just this past couple of weeks I was a nurse. Okay, it's very interesting. You get used to it though. This is what love is all about.

Irrigation. And it's another way to suck cock. Okay.

I'll drink that now. All right, brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners, I want to thank you.

And I want you to make like bonobos, not baboons. Make love, not war. Make love to someone you love

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