Sex Science and Sybians with SSSS

Full transcript of Sex Science and Sybians with SSSS on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

Susie One on the World Wide Web. Here she is, Dr. Susan Block. Brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners, sex therapists and sexologists,

good students and great apes, all you children of sex. And we are all children of sex. We may or may not be children of God.

We may or may not be children of Jesus, Adonai, Buddha, Krishna, Allah. The goddess, Dionysus, who knows, we do know. Until we start cloning ourselves,

we are all children of sex with a capital X. Can I hear an amen? Can I hear an amen? I want to welcome you to Dr. Susie Speakeasy

in the soul of downtown LA. I am the irreverent Dr. Susan Block, your servant and your mistress of the airwaves

and a sex therapist in private practice. And the proud hostess of tonight's soiree for Quad S, the society for the scientific study of sexuality.

Yeah, can we hear it for Quad S? That's a lot of S's, isn't it easy? So I want to welcome Quad S, all you students and professors

and sex therapists and sexologists and researchers. And I want to welcome our Speakeasy members and our lovely porn stars, professors and porn stars. We like to mix them up here at the Speakeasy

because we are all about the study of sex as well as the celebration of positive eroticism here in our downtown LA Garden of Eden. We got the snakes.

We got the apple. We got the knowledge. That's right, brothers and sisters, tonight considering our distinguished guests

is going to be an adventure in higher sex education. That's right. Education is power, right? It's a good cliche.

Most good cliches are cliches because they're meaningful. Education is power. And sex education is sexual power.

The power to be our sexual selves. The power to seduce someone we love into our lives. The power to share love. That kind of power is very powerful.

And that's why it's important to get sex educated. That's right. Get your PhD, get your JD, learn about computers,

learn about religion, if you want. But get sex educated. It's important for everyone because we are all children of sex.

So my guests tonight are specialists, whether they're professors or porn stars. They're definitely specialists in the field of sex education.

I don't know if the porn stars intended to become sex educators, but considering there's not too many places you can watch sex these days,

they pretty much are. And the professors and the sexologists, well, yeah. You, of course, need to keep getting educated

because you have to keep educating us, right? And some people say, like, why? Why sex education? Like, isn't sex natural?

Well, sure, sex is like one of the most natural things on earth. Like, close to eating, breathing. Sure, it's natural. But if you want sex to be good,

you have to learn a thing or two. I mean, sex is natural if you don't mind being a male premature ejaculator or a woman that doesn't have orgasms

or just a couple that falls out of lust after a couple of years. Oh, that's really, really very natural. But, yeah, to be good,

you got to get sex educated one way or another. As Ovid said, skill makes love unending. And I have to say, I'm, like, a test case on that. 20 years this past Thursday.

We just celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary. So even though we're polymorphously perverse, we are old married people. Where's my husband?

See, he's not even here. He's off somewhere with the porn stars or maybe the professors. There's some hot professors here.

That sounds like a marriage. Yeah, definitely, definitely. 20 years, hey, can't go far. All right, well, anyway, brothers and sisters,

I'm happy to have you here and I'm going to introduce you now. And now we're going to play. Oh, there you are.

Well, maybe I'll introduce you. You want to give me my mic? Captain Max. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.

Hi. Hi. Were you looking for me? I was, I was.

I was just going to... I've been married to this woman 20 years. I know why. Yeah, 20 years of love and lust and education.

And education. But bonobos don't get married. No. No, no.

But we practice the bonobo way and we like to make like bonobos, not baboons, you know. And we're so happy to have you here in Bonoboville, the Speak Easy. So, Quad S, take it away.

Dr. Hernando Chavez, welcome to the Speak Easy. Thank you very much for having us. You've been here before, but now you've like brought some friends. You know, I brought my posse.

You usually have yours. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, I have a few of mine, but you brought so many of yours.

You did. And thank you for inviting us and we're having a wonderful time. Let's give a little round of applause for us for the opportunity. Yeah.

Well, I'm so happy to have you here and it's been a really exciting convention, conference that is. And you, oh yeah, put on your headphones. I thought he was pointing at the empty drink and I agreed.

Oh yeah. Refill this man. Max was calling me out for drinking. Yes, please.

Uh-huh. So, uh, so, well, you are the coordinator of this whole extravaganza, aren't you? One of a large team. So we had a president, Chris White.

We had our program chairs, Michael Vigarito and Anna Randall. So the four of us together, along with Nina Redez, who was our student involvement chair and our awards chair, Jim Friedman, we all put together this amazing event, which, by the way, you were one of our most loved, beloved speakers.

Oh really? Yes. Thank you so much. Well, I enjoyed it.

What did you speak about again? See, you didn't even come. How beloved am I? Oh.

Yeah. The Bonobo Way. An alternative grade A paradigm for human sexuality. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

I got to talk about bonobos to a bunch of sex therapists. I really enjoyed it. So, but you were busy. You talked about horny perverse sexual behaviors amongst multiple people,

multiple animals with those kind of people. Yeah, that's right. And I'm not going to redo my talk right now. You missed it.

Sorry. I'm going to actually toss the ball to someone who was at the talk. Who could maybe give it a summary. Good.

Very brave here, Dr. Jim Weinrich. Welcome to the Speak Easy and to the Dr. Susan Block Show. You have to kind of get up to that microphone a little closer. I don't know how I'm used to getting this close to something.

Yeah, you know, it's very phallic and everything, but considering you're kind of subject this conference is about orientation and the... Sexual orientation, yes. Yes, sexual orientation.

I mean, you can get close to that microphone, can't you? I think it's not too frightening. Okay, good. Good, good, good.

Don't slobber on it. Okay. Now, you won an award. I've got to check and see that.

A year ago, yes. This award, right. This is the big outstanding contributions to sexual science award. That's right.

Wow. And tell me a little bit more about what you won that award for. Well, I did it for my history of research in sexual orientation. I wrote a book called Sexual Landscapes,

which was apparently very popular among members of the award committee, and I've discovered at this meeting lots and lots of QADES members. It's been very, very gratifying to discover that something that I wrote so long ago that people are still using it and thinking about it

and remembering it and complimenting me on it. It was wonderful. And can you sum up the thesis for a short attention span radio and television audience? Short attention span.

Well, let's see. Your mother and father probably had sex even if they didn't tell you about it. There you go. We are all children of sex.

Hallelujah. Praise the Lord and the lady. And they all had things that happened to them in childhood that influenced what turned them on in adulthood.

Right. There you go. Okay. Everybody has a love map, which is kind of like...

Oh, John Money. John Money. I used to work for John Money. Oh, you did?

That's why I like that term. But I like the term because... You can use it. I like the term because it's very useful.

It's a good way to explain to people to turn on without suggesting that there's something wrong or bad or nasty about it. And also suggesting that it's as individual as a landscape. Yeah.

It's as individual as a map. It's very specific. Now, a lot of people are trying to look this up on their Google Maps right now. No.

That's the wrong place to look for a love map. Right, right, right. Google Google is okay. Google Maps, no.

But in your heart, you could look in your heart, and maybe you'll figure it out. I mean, this is a lot about... Socrates said, know thyself.

This is know thy sexuality. And so what did you think of the bonobos? You came to my little talk. Well, my PhD is in evolutionary biology,

so I already knew a lot about bonobos. Oh, you did. And I live in San Diego, so I've seen a few... Oh, yeah.

I've never been able to have, even though I visited the San Diego Zoo many times, I've never been able to get a bonobo to do with me what they did with you in that movie.

Well, you know, I don't know that very many people have gotten that far with a bonobo, and I don't know... I don't know what that means, but I'm interested.

See how many of those you missed. It's more like curiosity. Maybe a bonobo's type. I don't know.

I'm not on their love map. You know, I mean, this was a profound interspecies event. I didn't have sex with the bonobo. Okay, everybody should know.

Sorry. I have actually an expert in animal sex here from the Kinsey Institute, but he doesn't want to go on the show,

even though he talks about animal sex. I mean, we don't do that here. Anyway, all right. Well, you're back to the video

with you having sex with an animal. You kind of had Rocky Horror pictures. I did not have sex with an animal, and I don't have sex with Eve,

but I do get very turned on by watching animals have sex. And you know, I mean, it helps if there's a glass between us. And so, you know, I had actually discovered bonobos on the nature of sex,

where I'd watched a lot of animals having sex for a while, and it did a lot for my sex life. And then I saw the bonobos, of course, and I fell in love with them.

And they are just wild, and you know, they're the make love, not war chimpanzees. And they're very bisexual. They're very loose.

I mean, bisexual doesn't even say it. They're very loose about their sexual orientation. And yeah, I like to watch them have sex. And yes, one day they were not having sex, actually,

which is rare for my visiting, although not everybody sees the bonobos having sex. They're not doing it all day long, but in the morning or in the evening, in the cool,

they usually do it. And this was one day they weren't doing it. And I was with a film crew who wanted to see sex, and so I felt pressure.

So I kind of banged on the glass a little bit. And this one bonobo that had been there a long time, Milana, she just bound it up to the window and basically started playing with me and kissed me.

Could you describe the kiss, doctor? Well, it was through the glass. And it was kind of like mirror image, kind of a combination of a less humorous

Mark's Brothers routine, is there a mirror between us or not? Or Rocky Horror Picture Show, elbow sex but with glass or something like that.

I love that. I was at the back of the room. Right. Yeah, you were, but you saw it,

and that's what it was. And it was, I felt like I was touched by an angel who looked like a chimpanzee. And it was very spiritual and sexual and intense.

I mean, not sexual. I mean, it's not like I was like pussy wet stuff, but it's more spiritual. And of course, it was good to have the glass,

because that way I didn't get covered with apes spit. But yeah. Well, I'm glad you were there and enjoyed it. And you got to see something that you haven't seen.

I did. Good. And what do you think the bonobos say about our, you know, the closeness that we have to them,

what do they say about our sexual orientation? Well, the bonobos are a good example of the variety that exists in the whole primate group of animals.

Yeah. The bonobos show the evolutionary advantage of what biologists call confusion of paternity. No one really knows who the fathers are

of the infant bonobos that are born. Right. And any bonobo, any male bonobo there could be the father of just about any one of the offspring.

They're all kind of like the uncles. Uncle's father who knows. So it turns out that female primates have a problem and it's kind of unpleasant to talk about,

but the basic problem is that they can't always protect their infants from marauding males. And different species of primate have different ways that the females solve that problem.

In chimpanzees, they associate themselves with very strong males who will protect them from marauding males from other tribes. In humans, a very common pattern has been

to establish paternity with one particular male and hope that he can protect against other males. The bonobos say, we're going to act sexually in a way so that no one knows who the father is.

Yeah. So everyone might be the father and therefore none of the males around are going to want to maraud

because they might be marauding their own kids. It takes a village to make a bonobo. Yeah. And then all the daddies feel responsible

and a little bit attached and they don't hassle the kids or each other, but certainly not the kids. They're pretty cool.

So human beings are an amazing combination of the monogamous pattern, the gorilla chimpanzee pattern and the polymorphous perverse bonobo pattern.

Do you think we used to be that way or not? No one really knows because... No, I know we don't know. Because, you know,

behavior doesn't leave fossils. Yeah. And so all that we know is that chimpanzees and humans and the other great apes

and bonobos all had a common ancestor somewhere and heaven only knows which branch of that common ancestor's descendants decided to have a smart idea

to confuse paternity. Yes, it is a smart idea and that's why we're too smart for our own britches because we now know the paternity

and, well, it's been all downhill since then. I mean, we have private property and all this ownership of people. Anyway, that's a big long discussion,

but I do want to ask both of you to give me a little bit of history before I move on to some of my lovely porn stars of Quad S.

Okay, I'll start off. You know, Quad S. in itself is a society that's focused on the scientific, evidence-based research of sexuality

and that is a multidisciplinary approach and there's a number of different areas and disciplines where people can bring their research in to present, to talk about

and use it as empirical validation. Anything we do, sexually, people can challenge, but when we have science behind it

and research behind it, well, now we have a little more credibility. Now we have a little more behind it to say this is actually more either normalized

or realistic or, you know, in a sense, when people say, well, condoms, I don't believe they're effective or people have their own different perceptions

or opinions, we can say, well, no, research has shown that condoms are 98% effective when used perfectly without human error. But we know that because there are people

out there like Jim and others who do the hard work to test this, to do the research, to present their findings, and then that's kind of what Quad S does.

We present these findings so that other educators like yourself, all the educators in the audience, they can use that in order to teach people to present that to the masses.

It's really about taking the information that Quad S and other organizations that focus on scientific research, taking that research-based evidence

and using it to promote sexuality in a positive manner, but also with evidence, you know, based. And how do you use it? I mean, you're a sex therapist. How do I use it? Oh, all the time,

especially when it's initially in my therapy sessions, a lot of people are looking for psychoeducation, some information about whether it's associated with permission-giving or just some evidence

to give them numbers on, let's say, masturbation. I might have a highly religious individual come into my sessions and say that masturbation makes them feel guilty or shameful

or they do it too much or too little or whatnot and you can give them, you know, research-based numbers, whether it's from Alfred Kinsey or to something more modern or more common

and more contemporary, and they'll feel a lot better about it. And then all of a sudden, it'll open doors for them to either talk about it, to express themselves

about what they're feeling, maybe some of the feelings associated with it, and it really does open doors the educational piece, the research piece.

I think a lot of people benefit, especially if you use it in a manner that's produced, that's productive and conducive to their, you know, their progress.

Awesome. And how does it help you, Dr. Jim? Well, besides giving me a chance to explain my ideas to people, I also learn a lot.

It's the Society for the Scientific Study of Sex. So as a scientist, I feel very much in the center of things at that society. There's nothing wrong with the other sexual societies

like the ones first counselors and therapists, but the Quad-S actually revolves around the scientists. Those therapists are welcome, educators are welcome, they all can learn,

and we scientists can learn from them also because the therapists and the educators are like the front line. They are really dealing with real people every day

with real problems, with real questions and things that they need to have answered. And Quad-S was founded in part by Dr. Albert Ellis. Isn't that right?

Well, that's a century ago. Or is that a... Or it was founded even before I was born. Yeah, like in 1950...

Dr. Ellis sounds right, that sounds right to me. Yeah, 55, I think. And actually Dr. Ellis was rated as the second most important person in his psychology today.

Yeah. Pole and behind Zygnafroid. So that means that he was pretty important and there's a number of other people like Harry Beagle

and Quad-S kind of grew from a number of individuals who said while we have psychological associations, where are sexological associations? Where is this sex piece in this entire

discipline of social services? And that's why they created this. Well, we're so glad that they did. Because, I mean, sexual research needs support

because it is so controversial. And because there's a lot of foundations that just won't support it. That support all types of other education

and research and science. And just, you know, find that sexual science is too embarrassing, I guess. I mean, that's one problem the Bonobos have had

and I'm sure that all different forms of sexual science run into that problem. Well, let's take AIDS and biomedicine as an example. When AIDS first burst upon the scene,

we had been spending millions and millions of dollars every year on basic biomedical research. So the little teeny tiny research group that studied this weird little thing called retroviruses

when they realized that AIDS was caused by a retrovirus, well, they've got the basic information. We can throw money at them. We can proceed from there.

But when they found that AIDS, at least in the gay male community, was passed by anal sex, no one had been doing basic sexual research.

And so no one could have money thrown at them in order to fight the disease in terms of changing people's sexual behavior. So I think America has been crippled

in its fight against AIDS and any of those sexually transmitted diseases because we've not been smart enough to spend money on basic human sexuality research,

like we have been on basic biomedical research. Well, we should all, like, donate to Quad S. I agree. Yeah.

That would be good. And you can hand those donations to me, by the way. Yeah, with the drink in your hand. That's a good one.

So it's been a good conference. You've had, like, three days of it, one more day. Right? And were you at the pornography conference,

the plenary session that Nina Hartley was at yesterday? Did you go to that? Yeah, you went to that. Were you there also?

I was there. Good. In fact, I got to have lunch with Nina and Carol Queen and Joni Blank.

I think I saw that on Twitter. Yes, I had to tweet pic, you know. That's a good crowd you hang with. Yeah, well, that was a group of power female bonobos right there.

That's a lot of sexual energy. That's a lot of sexual energy amongst those women. So Nina was really, you know, talking about the porn industry and I guess mainly dispelling myths

that a lot of people have. And I bring that up by way of segue because here at the speakeasy here in Arbonoboville, we often like to mix professors and porn stars.

Uh-oh. Well, that's like my personal life. Well, I mean, you don't have to have sex together. Yeah.

Really? Wow. Fernanda. I'm actually very happy you laughed at that.

Touche. Yeah. Well, and our first porn star is already laughing at the right joke.

So these are the frontline shock troops that changed the world, of course, especially with our new technologies. Unfortunately, many of us therapists

can't cross state lines like you're some fucking kind of drug dealer or something. My goodness. We've been using technology all over the world

to educate people so we can tell them where the penis goes and what you do with this and that kind of thing. And these people here are the... These are really the frontline on-hands shock troops

that are really... In the war against sexual repression and ignorance. Yeah. And they are part also of...

I know that George Bush would like to take credit for the spring revolution over there. But really, what everybody wants to see is sex. They want to open the curtains.

And we're in really a war, a religious war, which has been going on for a long, long time. And a lot of us that are in this business

are under constant threat by terrorist groups. And I'm talking about homegrown terrorist groups. Oh, yeah. And so it's very important that we...

We continue with this defense of sexuality. Otherwise, if we lose that, we lose everything. And I take my hats off... Hats, I have several hats.

I take my pants off also to... Oh, yeah, baby. To these wonderful people who have educated millions and millions around the world.

Literally. Well, yes. As Nina was saying, it's not a perfect education,

not by any means. It's very imperfect, because it's not really supposed to be education. It's supposed to be entertainment.

That's what it is. It's entertainment. That's what porn is. But because there's so little explicit education in sex, porn becomes de facto education.

So we have to consider this when we consider pornography and all its many splendid glories. When I was a young man in the 1950s,

they had a little magazine called Sexology. And I read in the advice column that this guy said he couldn't get his wife pregnant. And the advisor,

the person who was answering it, said, well, because you don't put your penis in the belly button. You put it in the vagina. I tried the vagina.

It doesn't work. She'll get pregnant. So we have been living in a world, especially in America,

of total ignorance and total fascistic religious oppression. These are aggressive, aggressive people

who want to take away from our lives. When we meet, when we talk to people who are 50 years old and have never had sex,

that's not good. That's not good. And we do talk to some of those people sometimes. And sometimes, then, after 50 years, they do have sex.

And it is good. Better late than never, brothers and sisters. Yes, indeed. So, bringing us to our lovely cadre of porn stars

we have here, and some of whom are filling in, by the way, because some of our quads asked people, you know, they got scared.

I don't know what to make of that. But you probably shouldn't make anything of it. Well, this is a sexual. People get scared. I know, but they're sexologists.

Okay, whatever. I'm just, you know, going with the flow, brothers and sisters. So, we have Professor Taylor.

Yes, Hernando, did you want to comment on that? Oh, I just said I'd come here to see if I could be scared. Oh. Well, we're going to scare you.

We had a bunch of these demonstrations of all this scary stuff. I know. We're trying to get a job.

Oh, yeah, right. Right, you've been on the Dr. Susan block show. Watch out. No more jobs for you. Are you kidding? I'm putting that on my resume.

Yeah. That's going to get me the job. Okay, and Dr. Jim, I mean all those comments. Well, you know, right by Schmooley,

the Jewish educator, who's now running for office, who's now running for office, actually started on this show.

It was one of his first talk shows, and, you know, he's a very conservative Jewish man. And they said, orthodox, don't go there, don't go there.

Author of kosher sex. No, I'm going on this show because that will get me attention and I will become famous.

And now he's very famous. Yes, it's all because of my show. A lot of people don't realize. But he's done it three times.

A lot of people don't realize that different religions have different degrees of anti-sexual attitudes. The Christian religion was founded

in a very, very anti-sexual era. But the Jewish religion, I'm really going to sound stupid here,

but I forget if it's a mikvah or a misvah, to have sex on the Sabbath. With your spouse.

By the way, the Catholic religion was very anti-sex, except for the priests. Okay? They're going to have all the sex they want.

There's a little town in Italy called San Felice, and it is where the Vatican brings in all the liquor. They have one of the biggest churches.

There's only 3,500 people in this place. They have one of the biggest churches in southern Italy. Okay?

And that's because that's where all the priests go and that's where all the sex goes on. So it's, you know, it's like,

we can have the sex, but you, you have to have a lot of pain and suffering. I don't want to say anything specifically

about today's Catholic church, but a few centuries ago, historians can tell you about the regulations at the monasteries,

where all the monks were sleeping together in separate beds in the same room. And the regulations said the beds would be arranged in a circle

and you would alternate old monk, younger monk, old monk, younger monk, because they were afraid of what the younger ones would do with each other.

Sounds like the dorms down at Twin Towers. Well, I thought they might have some interesting contraptions, like Olga's friends were demonstrating

out there to keep them from even moving out of their bed, like bondage things. Yeah, you did.

Okay. I think my porn stars want to be introduced. So I'm going to do that. All right. And here we have in a return, and gave us here a couple

weeks ago, the fabulous and lovely Courtney Taylor. Thank you. Thank you for having me back. Gorgeous. I'm glad to be here. Well, you did very well

with our professor Abramson from UCLA. I had a lot of fun with him. He was good. Yeah. Can you define fun?

I'm just curious. Can you define Abramson? Paul. Professor Paul.

Professor Paul. He's a nice guy. He was a great guy. I didn't get to have as much fun as I wanted to with him.

You wanted more. I always want more. But no, I had a great talk with him, and I had

a great time. It was very nice to meet him and hear what he thought about everything. Well, you're going to be studied just a little

bit more this evening, Courtney. So explain to our scientists, these are sexual scientists, like who you are,

why you are, a porn star. Well, I'm Courtney Taylor. And the reason that I'm

a porn star is because I have always just been a crazy, outrageous

sexual being since I could ever remember. I feel like if there's

something that I can do, or there's something that I can show or say to somebody to make their life or their relationship

or their marriage any better or a little bit more fun or more spicy or more little flirty or introduce

new things, then why not? Well, gosh, that's very altruistic and I hear people whooping in the background

that appreciate that. Courtney, do you have a media reel? Something? Presses watch?

A website? Google me. I like to google you, all right. Yeah, Courtney's everywhere.

She is. And you were just fabulous last time on The Sybian.

You enjoyed that, didn't you? Oh my God, I had to try it again, remember? Right. I had to do it twice. Yes, you did.

Wait, there's a Sybian here? Right behind me. Right here. Why, would you like to ride, Hernando?

We have the Sybian rides here. This is like an adult Disneyland. I grew up in a horse country. I mean, one person got it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? We all got it. So you brought up in a very religious family or not so religious

or a bunch of hippies or what? I grew up in a Christian school. Christian.

Like Protestant or Baptist? Very, very, very Christian. I went to a very, very strict religious church growing up, baptized.

What did you learn about sex? Oh, I just broke a nail. Oh. See? Jesus did that.

Jesus did that. Jesus. Oops. I just dropped a clipboard. It's Jesus.

Jesus is horny tonight. Yes, sir. I went to a Christian school from preschool

until 10th grade. And what happened in my school was girls in

10th, 11th grade didn't know how to this is like the time where the girls were starting to make out with boys and trying to be sexy, you know.

And so they said, well, we don't know how to make out with boys. And I'm like, I would love to teach you. Let me just show you.

Let me show you what I do. So I would teach all the girls how to

pretty much make out with each other and be sexy. You know, sometimes it's kind of intimidating your first kiss with a boy, you know.

You want to make sure that you're doing everything right and you're turning him on or whatever. So why not practice with a female first? Because females and females

can be very comfortable together. Ah, yes. This is a typical bisexual sort of story here, Professor.

Well, it has to do with the speech that I gave, actually, where instead of talking about heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual,

where you have to know the sex of the person who's looking or admiring and the sex of the person who's being admired

to decide what they are, just look at who they are attracted to. There's androphiles who are attracted to men and guineophiles who are attracted to women.

And if you're a guineophile, one naked woman is sexy. Two naked women is even sexier. Even if you

think of yourself as a heterosexual man guineophile and are a little bit spooked by the idea of oh my goodness, I should be into

heterosexual porn and I'm more turned on by two women. From the kind of view of androphile and guineophile, that's easy to explain.

One woman is sexy, two women is sexier. But most people, most men, actually, are turned on by man-woman porn.

Which is interesting, because there's a lot of girl porn and lesbian porn, and they do sell to a lot of men, but still

and all, most men like watching a man and a woman. And I always think that that's because we got a whole world of cuckolds

out there, because there's all these guys watching a girl they think is hot who could be their wife or their girlfriend

or not or just their fantasy. Just a girl they think is hot with another guy, and they're all doing this.

And it's I don't know if it's related to even bisexual, heterosexual, homosexual, it's really not any of that.

Maybe it does fit into your categories, but to me let's just eliminate the whole idea of humiliation with

cuckold, because it doesn't always go with humiliation, not everybody who watches porn is humiliated. But everybody who watches a couple, every guy

who watches a couple, a girl and a guy is watching a girl he likes with a guy who's getting her. Absolutely.

I don't know, anyway. I don't know what you make of that. He's projecting himself into the scene, in a sense. He could be. Yeah, he could be.

He could be imagining he's the guy, but then again he's not the guy. But I think there's the fantasy about it, like not even imagining

him as the guy that's in the video. I think just seeing a girl that you like, that you think is hot, being

plowed by another male can be sexy to some man. I kind of feel that. I mean, imagine you had a wife that nobody

wanted to fuck. Yeah, that's really boring. What the hell would that be? She doesn't have to

actually fuck other guys, but if she doesn't if guys don't want her, then you kind of feel like... Maybe I don't want her either.

I kind of feel also too that, I mean, we're not really talking about also that men also will sort of disassociate and maybe even like separate the male

that's in the video with the female that's being fucked. Because a lot of guys will not even know, especially heterosexual guys, will not even know who the

heterosexual point star is, the male in there. They won't even know, they couldn't even tell you their face, their body structure, nothing like that. They're just kind of focusing on the female

form or the sexual act itself. But then if they're only focusing on the female form, why don't they watch two girls more? Or a girl masturbating by herself just going,

hey honey, come to me. I mean, if all you want is the girl, then you want the girl saying come to me. And I think guys

like to watch a guy. Because I think we're very related to bonobos and way back when we lived in Bonoboville, you know, Sex at Dawn

and prehistoric times we probably did watch other people in the cave and there's something kind of exciting and yet reassuring,

you know, exciting and yet relaxing about watching somebody else and that's why people like to watch porn and of course, you know,

typical is the boy girl, although girl girl is also popular and boy boy. So let me introduce some of my other

guests here. So look at this girl. She's first of all, over 18. Okay. She's in fact

19. This is Tracy sweet and her doggy. This is Marocchi.

Marocchi. She's two and a half. Okay. Marocchi's not allowed to drink in either of you.

Okay. You're not allowed to drink but you are allowed to have sex. Yeah, that's a really lame rule. Well,

society's full of lame rules. welcome to the Speakeasy. This is your first time you're a virgin to my show.

Yes, I am and it is very different and not what I'm used to at all. What are you used to?

I don't know. I have very square roommates who like simple and black

and boring and I could go on and on with this lame spiel about my roommates. Okay. But I don't know.

I feel kind of at home. I've always loved things different. Mm. Colorful. Yeah, just like

out there, like instead of hiding everything about yourself, you put it out there and you're being yourself and no one can question your

personality or guess who you are because you have yourself all over the walls. I am certainly all over these walls. That's for sure.

And you might be too if you stick around. So aren't you a budding porn star or something

like that? Yeah, I'm getting there. You're a starlet. Yes. Yeah. You have some cute pictures. Oh, thank you.

You know, you seem like you have a cute sense of humor about yourself. And so what makes you tread this path

of porn stardom? In case everybody already didn't know, I actually have like Bible

tattoos. Like I have Bible versus tattooed. Bible. Tell me an idea of how I was raised. Okay.

I was a church probably at least four times a week, four days a week.

And then on top of that I would be at some kind of church function, be out there, be helpful,

spread the word event another day of the week. So my time was pretty occupied by all things church. And where are you from?

I'm from here, actually. Here, meaning LA? Yeah. Point of reason, LA. And so are your folks in LA? Yeah,

they're still here. And they still go to church four times a week? Yeah, my stepmom still does. Yeah.

I'm understanding now the church is a breeding ground for porn stars. It is. No, that's very true. What do you make of that, professor? Yeah, what do you...

A lot of porn stars come from very religious backgrounds. They seem to, more than just your average hippie background. In truth, like the entire time she was talking, I was wondering

if she was masturbating while she was going to church and like that whole like teenage upbringing. I was wondering, like what was your sexual expression back then?

Masturbating in church? That's good. That's the second question. Okay. Honestly, I really

didn't start to explore my sexuality really and step out of bounds until I was actually kind of screw over by

a church about a boyfriend because I'd fallen asleep in his car when my roommate had locked me out and I was staying with

the person from church and she was talking about how horrible it was that we both slept. He slept in the driver's side. I slept in the passenger's side

and I was getting lectured about sleeping in a car with a boy and I kind of looked at the person I was living with and I was like, you know, that doesn't seem

very fair that you would automatically assume seeing as I was raised in a church to just do the next worst thing and I said, you know what?

I think I am going to do the next best thing. And all of a sudden

a friend of mine goes, you know, you're on the running team and I always see running in the smallest shorts and the tiniest sports bras, you know,

you could really shoot porn if you wanted to and I thought she was nuts and she actually gave me the phone number to an agent

and I remember when I called and I was so nervous but he goes, okay, I need you to get naked so I can take pictures of you really fast to show everyone and I was like,

heck yes, let's do it. And I'm not going to lie, this guy was like in his 70s my first agent ever. It was Jim South.

He told me he was like, you need to get naked right now and I was like, okay, you were the first person I've ever got naked in front of

that I wasn't dating in my whole life and I was like, you know what, let's do this and I take off my clothes and he's telling me how to stand and I'm all nervous

but I don't know, I just, I felt like that's where I wanted to be. You felt right. Yeah, I felt right being naked in front of someone else

and for them to truly appreciate nudity. Hmm, well Jim South does. But what about God?

I mean, what about, I mean, you go to church four times a day, I mean, four times a week and you're praying and were you believing? Were you...

I used to believe it and so one day I finally kind of, like a lot of people in church need to, I took my head out of my ass and I really sat down

in a big position. I don't know, I really just thought about it and realized, you know, this is kind of full of crap because I just

I'd have it shoved on my throat for so long. Wow, that's another... Are you picking this up too? Yeah, you know, they

you know, they tell some fishy stories for the church. Yeah, right. You know, right, fishers have met.

Oceans open up, a guy has one fish and then he's got a thousand fish and then he's walking on water, you know, I think

they're taking acid or something. So what do your folks think of your new career path? I've never actually

heard my step-moms say, like, porn before. Yeah. She still has it when she refills it first of what I'm doing.

She says, oh, are you going to work? What time will you be off of work? She hasn't really accepted it yet. And my dad's

he's pretty chill with it. I mean, I have a teenage brother and he kicks anybody's ass who says anything about it. So... Okay.

So somehow, and they're still going to church. Are you still going to church? I went on Easter for my little brother and I'm not going to lie.

I like, I think people were scared to hug me. Like, I give them something. There are some diseases. They kind of walk up to you and kind of

like, hello. And they used to hug me. And yeah. And I was like, this is really fake, you guys. And they had a big breakfast after

for Easter. And I was like, I'm going to go to breakfast somewhere else. Really? Yeah. It was really sad to be with people I grew up

with and to know that they're so close-minded that they couldn't even... Let me tell you, let me tell you how

terrible it was. I grew up in the 50s in Montclair, New Jersey. Okay. Montclair, New Jersey. Very rich little town at the time.

And my principal was Mr. Edgerton. I still remember his name. And there was a girl, her name was Rita Little.

She wasn't that little. She had these big things. And so all the boys used to feel her up. They'd invite her to the house and so forth.

And one day Mr. Edgerton called us into the auditorium. He called us into the auditorium.

And said, if anyone walks Rita Little home, they're going to be expelled. She said this

in front of everybody in the school. I went home and told my father. And he said, you know what you got to do?

Max, you walk her home. Aww. And I did. Go daddy, go. And that was part of the evolutionary

and revolutionary thing that touched me at the time. And my father was so supportive. I got expelled so the next day

he drove me down in his limousine because he was quite rich and I was quite rich. And we went in front of George Ennis Junior High

Mr. Edgerton. And we sat down and my dad said listen, this can't be and so forth. And he pulled out a pack of

camels and he said, would you like a cigarette? Max. I said, sure, daddy. And I lit up.

And Mr. Edgerton and let me back in school. All right, yeah.

Well, you know, you're still walking the slut home except now you married her and she's in your home. But slut shaming

is like a big thing nowadays. It's like a political ploy that a lot of people are using. But of course it's been done for

millennia, slut shaming. I mean, the slut gets to have the fun but then the slut is shamed by various people in the

community, men, women, family, friends, politicians, religious leaders. Slut shaming is a really big

industry, isn't it? And that's what you experience. You got a little taste of slut shaming at church.

But I think it was to the point now where I'm in my life where I realized I was like, man, your guys' sex lives must suck. Well, there you go.

I'm so sorry for you. If you ever need help, please call me. I'll give you some advice. Aw, you should let them know that.

Send them a little mass email. Send them a video. Don't worry. They're watching it anyway.

They're watching it. They're all masturbating to her videos and that's why when they hug her they get like that.

Because they feel ashamed of themselves. See, slut shaming is really about self-shame. Those people

are ashamed who slut shame. When Rush Limbaugh you can applaud. I was, I was going to.

He used to sell me oxy-cottons so let's not talk too bad about him. Okay, well, he's cut off from that.

Doesn't he have like a gazillion call girls he goes out with? He's talking about being a slut.

Anyway, okay. Welcome to the wonderful world of crazy sex in Bonoboville.

Woohoo! Where do I sign up? You're here. You're part of it. You've signed up, I guess. Your picture's all over the internet.

I mean, and you're on the Dr. Susan Block show now, so your reputation is sealed.

Right. Okay, well, welcome to the show and thank you for joining the cadre,

the front lines of the war against sexual repression. Woohoo! I see you're dressed in your Minnie Mouse

ears. These are mine, I play dress up with Tasia. Tasia dresses people up. Yes, she does. Yes.

So, sitting next to you is the lovely Anna Fox returning to the Dr. Susan Block show. Welcome back, Anna.

Well, hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Amazing. You're amazing. You are amazing.

And you were amazing when you were here before. You were on a show where we mixed the porn stars with poets that night. It was the spoken word.

And you did all this interpretive dance and beautiful so here you are.

So what's your background? I don't know if I asked you that last time, but it's only your second time, so maybe I forgot.

Ironically, my background fits with the last last ladies. Really? This is a lot of Protestant Christian you know, Bible something.

Yeah. I'm the daughter of a minister. Wow, the daughter of a minister. Hallelujah. Amen and amen.

What does he think of his daughter's career path? If he was still here, he would think it was awesome. Even though my dad was a minister,

he was still down to earth and realized that you only have one life to live and to go out and live it and do the things that you really like.

So I used to drink beers with my dad, smoke cigarettes with my dad. I got first tattoo, first piercing with my dad. And he was a minister.

Of course with all those cigarettes and stuff he's dead now, but no offense. I mean we all have to go sometimes. It happens.

When did he pass away? How old were you? I was 16. Ah, you must have missed him. Yeah, but we were really close

so it was okay. Yeah. Okay, well you felt like you got to say goodbye.

Yeah, we had time together. Good, good. What did you learn about sex? What did he teach you?

Quite honestly, no. I didn't know anything about sex so I kind of learned by myself but I was always really curious

even though I held off on losing my virginity until after I graduated high school but I still was really curious

so I went out there and found my first subject. It was actually an accident but I had fun.

Wow. What is a subject? She uses like a sexological term.

A study? I was really curious and I wanted to lose my virginity. I didn't plan on having a boyfriend or dating or any of that stuff.

I just wanted to have some good sex so there was a guy who came of my house and had condoms so I had some good sex. My first position was doggie.

Woo hoo. I wish I started there. Yeah. Is that your favorite or just where you go?

Now it is because it was my first so now it's my favorite. Really? Why is it your favorite? Just because

the way that your body is tilted just a certain spot that it hits you can arch your back higher or lower

so even though you're in doggie you have a lot of different variations things you can do. Okay well

it is some variation and it is a very visual position. I mean I guess that all of you girls are kind of

visual about sex being porn stars. Do you feel like you can I mean can you have an orgasm

as easily when you're more worried about how you look or do you find that that's difficult? I don't think

if the way I love to do it is really rough so if I still look as pretty at the end as I did in the beginning I don't think

I did something right. I want to look like a sloppy mess. I love sweating and like the slobber

and Jim what about you? Okay Jim have you ever had sex on camera? No

I'm having trouble with my hearing when she said when she said that her first position I thought she said it was soggy soggy

It was a little soggy It was definitely that too. Yeah I would hope so. That would be a good thing.

Have you ever done any sex on camera? Have you ever done any kind of exhibitionistic type thing

or that doesn't ring a bell with you guys? Couple here and there. Couple here and there. We've got politicians that are

texting pictures of their dicks and their underwear. I think everybody does these days. I feel like

people aren't authentic if they don't at least admit that they are sexual and that they want to at least capture their sexuality

and they want to share it with their partner and then their partner to share it with them I think that's not authentic. Most of us will sex

pictures. Most of us will do amateur videos maybe do a little exhibitionist event There's little things that we do

that we don't necessarily assimilate into our own entire sexual being but we have done. To me that's like the porn

starification of society in a way. These ladies are professionals and they're

as we said on the front lines this is their career but a lot of us are just taking pictures

and sending them and doing a little bit of porn starring. I think most people just don't have the balls to go as far as they go.

I don't have the balls either. I don't have the balls either. But people do it more in the old days

people didn't show anything much. They do have sex in the dark. People are looking a lot more the internet has everyone looking

which is interesting. It's an interesting new aspect of sex education. I think another thing too

about people in general wanting to send sexing and stuff like that even before I was actually in porn I loved sexing

because I felt so hot and I got to share it secretly with someone else. I felt so naughty and then that person comes

home and it's like they've been seeing these pictures and you know they got aroused when they saw them. They want you back you're just begging for a good time.

Absolutely. Some of our great sex researchers like Helen Senor Kaplan who talked about instead of the four

stages of sexual response she added on one before that which was desire how do you create desire something like a modern technological

intervention like sexing or tweeting some pictures of yourself. That to me is the modern version of how to instill desire

to write a sexy note to your partner and tuck it in their purse or in their wallet saying I want to do this and that to you when you come home

or I'll be in lingerie when you arrive we make desire we make desire. We have to create desire and I think Helen

Senor Kaplan was right on it. That is how we really start our sexual response cycle. She was the pioneer sex therapist

sexologist. Well just remember the last four letters of google spell ogle. That's right.

They do. Well google is to ogle and ogle and look and look and look and look and I mean a lot of it is great

we don't like all of it. I mean that's the price of freedom is that some of it is going to be stuff we don't like. Well and I also think too that the ladies here

we have up front I mean they're all creating desire that's like that's that's what their gift to the world is is they are desirable and they also

appeal to the desirable needs of individuals and that's why it works that's why porn is such a multi billion dollar industry because

I just want to say that these ladies are sort of your classic idea of beauty really they are but they're so

it just so happens they are they're you know beautiful girls I don't think anybody would argue with that unless they have a particular fetish

for someone that isn't this classic beauty and these days in porn there are all kinds of women big tall fat

skinny old young I mean well hopefully none under 18 but lots of older ones

gilfs and milfs and gilfs and everything I mean with the internet and all the variety there is a lot of variety

anybody can be a porn star almost so let's see we have some requests here

porn star fan panty boy would like to know if you can have your panties Courtney absolutely well that's so generous if you look

at giving she is we have a panty fetishist you know what I talk to him on twitter all the time he's a great follower he is

he is well how about you know what I was wondering if we could get some of our porn stars up one at a time

maybe get some other quads people in here Diana you want to get Diana she was going to come on maybe we could get her on

is she out there yeah what oh she's going to be back in a minute okay and well

if anybody else from quads oh there you go okay so you want to come up here and show us your panties me yes

and then Diana you can sit down in there and we're going to go to intermission real quick oh we're going to have an intermission okay alright so you can go sit there

actually why don't you switch Tracey you sit in the stripper pole table and Diana you can sit down

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getting to know the society for the scientific study sexuality

which is why we call it and I had the honor speaking the other day and now

I've got some of the wonderful people here so we've got professors meeting porn stars Courtney Taylor sitting here with

me and now I have Dr. Diana Wiley on microphone hello hello doctor

susie and I'm remembering that back in about nineteen ninety three ninety four

what's that yeah should I do I need to move

where do I go what can I do that's good right there can I sit down

I can't sit down I can't sit down somehow okay alright so

no before that annoying static I was saying in nineteen ninety three ninety four

you and I were both on Bob Berkowitz's show real personal on CNBC and

we were not on at the same time but I remember you watching you and thinking here's a very unique

knowledgeable woman well thank you and they wouldn't even let me wear my hat on that show imagine but I think

I remember you're wearing some sort of bustier oh yeah whereas I came on in a very conservative

now I'm not obviously dressed this way tonight because we're here well yeah so I thought why not

because actually I have this inner wild lady even in my sixties you know

yes and I appreciate that I do and so tell us about that tell us how you've cultivated the wild woman within you

for I'll do that just yes certainly okay okay how about if I use this mic

I thought that was okay do I need a new battery perhaps okay

so can I have another microphone for people okay so is this something I should take

off or okay okay alright then technology

means so cultivating my wild inner child you know I was

born for happiness I got what religion were you we were talking about just a mild

Presbyterian but what what happened for me I got really lucky I had parents

who were in love with each other and affectionate and I got secure attachment and some of us know

about attachment theory and so I was born to be happy and

I got a lot of self confidence early on it really doesn't help people you're supposed to be a therapist if you're just born to be happy

how do you help people with that well because I didn't have to take abnormal psych 101 as a freshman to find out how come I'm so

fucked up because I was indeed pretty well balanced even as a 20 year old so

what happened is that I went along I tried a lot of things I was an actress I was a show girl for a year and a half

I really was I was a school teacher I was in sales I went to graduate school and got my masters first and then

later got my PhD but all in clinical sexology well marriage and family therapy but

I think that the best therapist Susan the best therapist have kind of even

even if they didn't luck out like I did with a good family they've done some good inner work

and so they're better able to help their clients because if you don't do this really positive

inner work and get you know get comfortable with yourself at times you might be selfish

but I call it enlightened selfishness selfishness but you have a good amount of compassion and empathy

and then that feeds into your sexuality too because you can let go you can be abandoned

you can surrender it's wonderful I just I'm so in favor of

people remaining sexual I'm also a gerontologist that means I study aging and I've

had some studies published in medical journals on aging and sexuality studies in sexual aging yes aging and sexuality that I did

with an MD and anyway the best thing that older people can do what is Qantas?

best thing that older people can do they may need some help and continuing but it's to remain sexual it is so healthy for you

you get all this oxytocin and endorphins it is very healthy I'm swimming in

oxytocin as we speak we have a question are we going to see her panties? no

wasn't her panties like this? we're doing a tease right now we're teasing you my honey is sitting over there

I was a widow for a number of years and finally through match.com a year and a half ago I found Brian and we continued to have

really hot sex and we're both well into our 60s me a little more awesome that's great

let's hear it for hot sex into your 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s senior sex is good for you and we know

that people that have frequent sex have fewer arguments and when they do have them they get over them faster

can I have an assistant like Tasia maybe help me get this microphone off because I'm using this one right somebody help me get this thing off

because it's like they're interfering with each other okay so yeah so tell me about your association with Quad S while she gets my mic off

well I started going to Quad S I think about 28 years ago and I went then

as a brand new marriage and family therapist who had not yet I was beginning to decide

to focus in on human sexuality and become a sex therapist but

so I started going to the meetings and learning more about sexuality and so that was about 28 years ago and I have

really benefited from going to the Quad S meetings you're a veteran oh definitely

and um well thank you for representing well you know I believe in Quad S and ASEC the other American Association

for Sex Educators, Counselors and Teachers both organizations are very good and of course to keep my license current

I need to get continuing education credits but I come to these conferences at least twice a year

sometimes more both ASEC and Quad S we need to keep on top of our knowledge base

I mean would you want to see a therapist who wasn't well trained and well educated

and especially sex therapy would you want to see a therapist who doesn't want to see him educated

they're supposed to do the educated but I think it even helps to see a therapist who's comfortable with his or her sexuality

it does and it helps to see you you look great in this outfit I like the fishnet top here can you model a little bit

stand up please oh yeah alrighty then well on that note now the fashion

dancing has begun so I think someone wanted to see your panties can we have a little panty revealing music please

hmm this is Courtney Taylor brothers and sisters special request to peel off

those pants are they pants or are they sprayed on so you wore some sexy black lace

see through panties you like that did you wear them for a panty boy I did actually I decided to coordinate

because last time I was black and pink so I wanted to be all black this time all black yes very slinky right right and you

rode the Sybian last time I had a blast on it last time so I mean we're almost at the end of our live broadcast

then we're going to have after party but I think it's time for somebody else to ride the Sybian I mean I'm not sure I'll give

first dibs to Diana oh no I'm not going to do it why would I need to do that when I've got Brian

that's what they should say Brian you got to live up to that tonight she's passing up a Sybian

awesome yeah well Hernando you were interested shit I couldn't ride a horse for

anything well ok then maybe I'll ask either of our porn stars

come on Tracy Tracy or Anna or Tracy Tracy squirts

Tracy squirts oh my goodness I want all the sex educators to see how safe

we are here with our Sybian putting our big saran wrap over everything Susie can I get some goggles if we're doing safety

absolutely you've got to bring your own for that ok so who wants to go on who's up who's up for this

I need volunteers you are ok come on up here come on up young lady

you've never ridden a Sybian right no I haven't oh my god

you're in for a treat ok no no you can stay here you can stay here why don't you stay here you be moral support

good I want to be got a good view who wants to sit in this chair that's been abandoned if anybody wants to come up here

and help us out with commentary you're all welcome ok so now we

we're squirters oh I see so you really think you're going to squirt yeah really wow ok female ejaculation

brothers and sisters lovers and sinners sex researchers it's holy water are you the preacher's daughter no you are but it's close enough

I mean we got preachers well she's been to church four times a week no wonder she's squirting holy water Susie do you have a slip and slide

like a tarp well we got the tarp right here we're prepared I love you know we love plastic

it's kind of awful but it protects ok alright so we're getting we're getting ready here

ok so what are you wearing here what is this little outfit this is something ok can you give her the microphone for a second

I was invited to play dress up yes Tasia dressed you up I think to make you look really young and scare everybody

so I think you got to take some of that off because you got to look more in your age yeah you got to look more like a grown up

ok yeah start with the tutu ok here we go she doesn't get any music when she does the strip huh

ok look at these panties what are these things these are interesting ok

now we come down to the grown up panties ok ok very good nice

nice little valentine things here ok here we go ok maybe you've heard the mic since she's describing things

oh I bought them in Japan when I went to go they are very ornate actually look at these Japanese panties

Japanese point is weird well look who's here sex nerd Sandra welcome back to the speakeasy

yes yes ok well we're glad to have you back Sandra was on before with our good friend

who we love and adore Christopher Ryan author of Sex at Dawn

oh he's fabulous and so is his wife Casilda and anyway welcome back

so you've been having a good time at Quad S haven't you the best yes and now it's about to get better yeah yeah yeah well you came just in time

for the Sybian ride have you ever ridden a Sybian? I have not you haven't it's on my list of things to do well I don't know

wow we should not have said that yeah yeah you know Hernando right

invitation self invite yeah no well I mean Tracy is going to do it first

but then we're going to have Sybian rides this is an amusement park right here sloppy seconds for Sandra alright so these are

these are interesting panties these Japanese panties what do you think Sandra what do you think the Japanese style

fan definitely fan can I see the back back yeah definitely alright so my question

is do you want to ride with your panties or without I don't know I did shave for the occasion but

oh that's sexy that's coming back into fashion you should not even think twice about that it is it's on the rise it is everybody give her a round of applause

for a little ok I think we're getting a little more of this trip tease I mean you want to take your top off first because you know

yeah really the ears you know

should she take the ears off no we like the ears we love the ears keep the ears on

whoa beautiful ok ok and now

I think it's better without the music ok down we go just all the cheers yeah whoa

ok and now you are all shaved ok yes you are but you're a grown up girl

yes I promise I'm over 18 I swear say that on microphone I swear I'm 18

you look 12 but you'll appreciate that one year actually did you look like her when you were her age

no not many do alright so you're ready for the Sybian now ok

now face this way your tattoo says lead me yeah James 112 it's in the Bible

Bible tattoos Bible tattoos wow doctor doctor James please lead her

I'm impressed alright sister Tracy sister Tracy you are going to ride God's machine now

you're good you're good just put one put one leg right here put the other right here and just position yourself comfortably

put your clit right here girls helping girls yeah so this is kind of like a dick we're learning absolutely

how a dick would be inside you put your clit right on top perfect and now just enjoy the ride

oh yeah do you want to bend over you have to still hold my hand I got you baby

I got you I don't know I'm kind of scared to be in control I'm not sure what's going to happen who's in control Tasia uh oh

if Tasia's in control you're in trouble keep it slow go slow Tasia just enjoy yourself

take a deep breath deep breath feels good really sexy

see she's becoming a sex therapist happy I'm getting help yeah yeah how's it feeling Tracy

pretty good okay do you want a little more juice more power oh god it's going faster

okay you asked for it girl you asked for it the Sybian strikes again yes I do say that when it feels good

yes call out don't hesitate have you got it all the way

turned up or part way all the way Jesus no pun intended squirty

you're going to squirt now I'm going to ride a fire which way are you going to squirt backwards or forwards

probably down I don't know I've never been on one of these things before focus okay

focus focus on the squirting messing with me right now so how's it feeling Tracy

of course oh she's got her mouth full well that's icing on the cake oh she's squirting

she's squirting wow it's holy water sister sister Tracy go for it oh my god

yeah let's hear it Tracy sweet squirt it all over the Sybian as a man my dick

I was holding up the look at this she's glistening as a man my dick is still not going to wreck you but

this looks great are you trying to say you know you're a little intimidated by a machine no I'm trying to say that she was going so fast

that even like a man can even guys have to learn to keep up she came before you were even able to get you know in the game

I was still putting on my glove getting my batting glove on that was amazing yeah how you doing there Tracy

give us a report can I sit you have squirt all over you well you know that's what happens when you

squirt all over yourself did it feel good I hope wasn't painful we have to know

alright you like my machine it's very different I've never ever ridden I don't think I've ever ridden anything

like that ever would you like to ride it again I don't know if I'm ready not right now

does it get a second date sometimes okay but now someone else should get a chance to ride it

the last minutes of the show I think someone else should who wants to ride the Sybian I mean one of my best friends

Anna Fox is here Diana turned us down so Anna Fox

would you like to ride the Sybian we will change the plastic here sure I'll ride the Sybian awesome Anna Fox

I love you Anna this is what I like can I go home yeah do what you need to do

clean up or something but come back Susan would we have time for two cause I have a huge crush on Courtney over there oh that would be awesome

season two we always have time for Courtney we even have time for Sandra I'll think about that one

think that's what you do I do I like to think I think hard so what's the most important thing you learned

that you can think of right now from Quades this weekend one thing that conflict is the biggest

way to figure out if a marriage is going to succeed or not conflict yeah if you can handle conflict in the exact same way as your

partner you too will have the best likelihood of succeeding in your marriage well it also has to do I think that was the Gottman thing I didn't go to it

but John Gottman did these studies for 25 years in his love lab at UW University of Washington

and he found sort of mathematical formula but if couples all couples have conflict

yes it's inevitable but how they deal with it just like a lot of things in life how they deal with it is important

but so if you have conflict and you're negative and critical and you maybe even hit below the emotional bout line

you do that you have to have three to five positives so maybe you need to give your partner a blow job while he eats

popcorn you know I was just going to say to me it's the bonobo way conflict that's the way you got to deal with it I mean it may not be sex

that you use to actually diffuse the violence but it's got to be some kind of pleasure to diffuse the violence

somehow and even if it's not physical violence which hopefully it isn't just sort of emotional violence just

that can be wicked and we do that I mean I've been doing that for 20 years

sending lots of ammo at my husband just knives and all kinds of emotional things do you say positive things

yes that's the key you always have to say you have to if you're going to wound it's like S&M you got to make nice to the wound

and apologize because and Susan even in more you know traditional vanilla relationships

marriages I've seen so many die from emotional undernourishment they forget to say

this is what I appreciate about you this is what I love about you they stop saying the compliments the words

and so many women in particular need will they say in effect make love to me in my ear

say the words I need the words yes women fall in love through their ears men through their eyes although it's really just

our masculine and feminine size anyway we have a naked girl in the the seating arrangement here which is terrific okay Tracy sweet is

sitting in our guest lineup and we have the beautiful and incredible Diana Fox who is a former runway model

and so yes look at you why don't you model your outfit here look at how the shoes match the top I mean brothers and sisters we got to

appreciate this look at the shoes matching the timing you match to but look she looks she looks amazing yeah she looks absolutely phenomenal

totally totally phenomenal this body would you rather have music to strip to or you want us to do our ongoing commentary maybe the commentary

comment commentary okay very good so excellent commentary what do you think of her outfit wow she worked it out yeah mm-hmm okay

so now what's she going to take off first we're going to see at the top like a game oh yeah already the top is coming up she's going to

without getting the headphones they don't even fall off my hat she's so graceful very very graceful okay

so now we got the skin tight white thing whoa down we go

at this body this is just an amazing body we're all jealous let's just admit it right now

okay and then we'll go over it now just enjoy it now that we admitted it yeah okay look at these panties panty boy okay excuse me these are

hot stuff did you didn't get these in Japan did you okay can you get the microphone I just need to know where the panties come from

actually I buy panties all the time so you don't even know I don't remember I have like suitcases full of panties really you're panty fetish I do

yeah I do why do you like panties so much um because it's like a costume I very rarely wear clothes anyway so if I'm gonna wear something

it's panties yeah okay well don't let me keep you in clothes okay keep going new detaille

it's a great way to be beautiful mmm oh she's so firm yes yes good lord

that's why she's my best friend you're best friends wow awesome I love Tracy 3

I love her too I love you too can we all be friends I love her okay oh and now she's naked yeah

okay awesome okay so now we have zip panties mmm voila

whoo and uh zebra and here we go okay I think I'm going to operate the controls

so you've never been on a Sybian before no I've never been on one before okay well this is your first try

here we go Sybian time for Anna Fox and so you just kind of mount it I mean there's pretty much

that's the way you do it and uh move all these clothes clothes okay

okay and panties panties okay

okay here we go so yeah those are the attachments which we could use in the after party if you like

okay so yeah you got your your clit right up against actually can't avoid it if you sit on it you're pretty much right up against the

the kind of corrugated part sort of like an external g-spot all corrugated okay so now you're ready

okay I'm going to start it I'm going to turn it on here we go go Anna

I had the Sybian how's it doing it's doing good right now a little more

a little more a little more a little more I'm getting so wet watching this

I was already wet watching better oh yeah right it girl

mmm more I have the best seat in the house yeah more

and you have a super hot sex voice it's so intense to watch this here she goes Anna Fox on the Sybian

you got it up at full speed now yeah sit on it did you calm or

get on down I heard it sit on it Tayj is very demanding

okay did you okay more it's really hard to do calm

oh yeah there she goes okay yeah that time I'm good okay here she goes

alright brothers and sisters that's here Fox who rode the Sybian successfully

how was it what's your report my vagina is so tingly right now it feels like pop rocks it's great pop rocks

very evocative yeah very nice very nice beautiful well you look

gorgeous riding it thank you you want to take a break now oh yeah

my pleasure you think you'll give it another try sometime I think I will will it replace real human beings

oh no nothing can replace real things good answer we are

just about out of time brothers and sisters we are out of time we are out of time

you know we've had a request to have to have Courtney ride the Sybian I can always ride it

please in these eventful times that we have coming up pretty please okay real quick ride

but we have to change the thing though we have to change that we're gonna have to do it in the after party we'll do it in the after party

we like to keep Hernando frustrated I want to tease him as much as I can my balls look like two little smurfs

you got it hey help me out with that oh you don't even need to ask me twice baby she's gonna ride it

she's gonna ride it in the after party but right now I just want to wind up the show the broadcast and thank everybody

who's joined us tonight it's been a really special night with Quad S the society for the scientific study

of sexuality and hey we're very happy to have you all here everyone from Quad S

the society for the scientific study of sexuality just in case you don't know what Quad S is and thank you Hernando

Dr. Hernando Chavez so where do we find you hopefully here at the speak easy every Saturday night

if not you can twitter me at Hernando underscore Chavez yeah alright okay and

I got a little well Sandra here you are plug yourself that's a loaded thing to say on this show

just listen to the sex nerd Saundra podcast on iTunes and Nerdist.com okay well thanks for joining us and the lovely Tracy

sweet sister Tracy who shared her holy water with us brothers and sisters oh my god where do we find you

on twitter at Tracy sweet underscore X X S and Tracy spelled t-r-a-c-e-y

mm-hmm okay and Dr. Diana Wiley well the best place is DR

for Dr. DR Diana like the goddess Wiley w-i-l-e-y com so Dr. Diana Wiley

com except she's a virgin goddess no after she became the goddess of the moon

she lost it but I do have a radio program called love lost and laughter weekly with progressive radio

network and the link is on my website Dr. Diana Wiley dot com awesome thank you Dr. Susan

oh thank you and thank you Courtney Taylor thank you for having me here the only thing I can plug is my twitter

it's c-o-u-r-t-t-a-y-l-o-r-x-x-x okay and Ms. Anna Fox I'm at twitter too

I'm at a-n-a-f-o-x-x-x twitter.com awesome okay well thank you all for joining us

and some of the other people that were on earlier but sort of are wandering around right now I don't know if we can round them up to say goodbye

you know there's some dirty things going on here there are you know they're getting all the nooks and crannies here okay but I want to thank everyone

from Quad S and I want to thank everyone from the speak easy and I want to thank everyone who's out there whether you're

watching or listening in your home your mansion on a hill or your cardboard box wherever you are whatever you do

I want you to be good I want you to be happy yes like the therapists say try to find the happiness try to give the pleasure

try to follow the bonobo way be a revolutionary in your own life make the sexual

revolution happen to you look in the mirror that's where the revolution starts so follow the bonobo way

a peace through pleasure for conflict resolution and help to save the bonobos they will save you too make love not war

mmm make like bonobos not baboons make love not war make love to someone you love

tonight even if that someone is you and yes masturbation is good for you it's okay go ahead

okay thank you thank you brothers and sisters thank you Quad S thank you all

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