“The Cuckoldress”

Full transcript of “The Cuckoldress” on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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So, tonight, here on the Dr. Susan Block show, the greatest sexuality show on earth, we're going to talk about one of your favorite subjects. I know, I know you might not admit it,

but it fascinates you or fixates you. That's right. The Daily Beast, when they interviewed me about it, they called it the intellectual fetish.

I don't know if it's really intellectual. That's what they called it. I do think it's a mind game. Whereas, you know, when you just got a foot fetish,

foot fetish, leg fetish, you know, rubber fetish, it could be a mind game too, but it's not necessary. You could just get into the sensuality. But this particular fetish that I am referring to is,

it's about the mind. It is, but I don't think you have to be an intellectual to be into it. Not at all.

So, should I say what it is? Because you all know what it is. Go for it. The cuckold.

That's right. The cuckold, the man. Usually it is a man. I guess it could be a woman,

but then she'd be a cuck queen, and this man has a wife, or a girlfriend, you know, or maybe just a fantasy.

But he's got somehow a woman in his world, or he could be gay and it could be another man. And then there's everybody in between. If I'm leaving anyone out, I apologize.

But in any case, his other, his significant other is having sex with others. And that is a big deal, you know? It used to be in the old days that this person would be

always fooled and foolish. And nowadays, yeah, I mean, sometimes, but sometimes people do it on purpose. They really want to do it.

They really, it's a lifestyle. It's a fetish. It's a kink. It's a, I think, growing phenomenon. I'm not sure if it's growing,

or if it's just that people are coming out of the closet who used to be in the closet about it. But I have guests tonight who might shed some light on this question and others.

And they've all participated in making a movie. Called The Cuckoldress. That's right. And in this case, I believe Cuckoldress

is synonymous with hot wife more, not a cuckween. The woman is the one who's going out, getting it on.

And the man is the one who's staying home and getting off. Hearing the sordid stories about it. Trying to, trying, trying.

Anyway, without further ado, I want to say this is actually a really excellent and funny film. And a little bit sexy, I mean erotic.

Erotic, actually, but still funny. If you're the kind of person who likes to laugh in bed, then you might find it erotic too. It's definitely funny.

It's definitely very well done. It's a short film. And it's been being shown at different film festivals, including CineKink, where,

as those of you who know me know, I showed a couple of films. Dr. Susie Squirtzalon and Blonde Island and Funk Me.

And Lisa Vandevere, yes. Hey, shout out. Good taste, girl. And so now I have the makers of this film,

primarily the prime maker, and as he puts himself, the pervert behind this film. Well, he sort of said the other two

who are actors in the film are not as perverted as him. But we'll see. His name is Brett McCabe, although his Twitter says Brett McCabe.

But welcome to the Dr. Susan Blanchard. Brett. Should I call you Brett or Brad? Brett.

He says Brad. I'm just being funny. I'm a comedy writer. I mean, we're all here because we're comedians.

We try and write the yuck yucks, the funniness. So I want to preface it like I'm not an authority on this subject at all. Well, I think comedians are better authorities

on the news these days than newscasts, honestly. So I think comedians can also be authorities that could be better than, you know, a professor on certain subjects,

especially if they've done a little research. I just talk louder so it sounds like authority. Okay. Well, speaking of which, now that you've interrupted, we'll introduce you.

Perfect. See, authority. Authority. The cameras were on. Yes. Okay.

He's pretty loud for a furry. A furry. Okay. Well, we should say there's a furry in the film, and guess who it is?

Without... Actually, we're going to show a little piece. Okay. A real fun...

Our favorite piece. I love this part. Not yet back there. Okay.

So this is Bal Dem. Bal Dem. Yes, yes. Nice to meet you.

Thanks for having me. And who are... means God of strength. Yes.

In some fur language. Yes, yes. It's an homework. It's an Indian name.

That would be India Indian. Yeah, India Indian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

It's a whole time without your native American. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay.

Well, that's what this show does. It digs deep. We dig deep and we find the truth. Right.

Okay. So... And I also want to introduce Ali... Wait, Ali?

Ali. Yeah. Just a regular Ali. Like the Ali cat.

Ali Thu, who is also a comedian. Yes. With two S. And I love to say comedian.

I don't know. Is that sexist? But I like it. I like comedians.

If you're a woman, you can say actress and comedian. Really? You can't do that as a guy? Yeah.

I prefer comedian. I'll be canceled on Twitter if I say that. Well, I call them dumb comedians. So it just usually doesn't...

I like it because it sounds like little friends. And so Ali... Ali Thu plays the title role. Yeah.

In the movie. The Cuckoldress. Meaning she is the Cuckoldress. Who wears many dresses in the film.

Yes. And has a big colorful Ali. I don't think you wear pants at all. No.

Except in the furry outfit. Yes. More like a onesie, though. Yeah, a onesie.

Yeah, exactly. So you're great. Thank you. Very believable.

Very accuracy. Oh, thank you. I'm really glad you believe that I would let a lot of men fuck me. Yeah.

I do. I do. I believe that you're... You did it for all the wrong reasons, too.

Love is not a wrong reason. Oh, well, okay. But it didn't quite... Well, I don't know if we want to explode the ending.

But yeah, I don't know if it's a happy ending for... Well, it is for you, actually. It is. It is.

So you're on an adventure. And you discover that you can find good sex, if not love. Oh, yeah. The love didn't quite work out.

Okay, so this is... How did you all meet? We all met at an open mic. We were all stand-ups.

It seems to go to Allie's open mic. And Sally Mullins, we should give a shout-out to. Sally is the one who introduced us to these lovely people. Sally Mullins is a great comedian, as well as a cougar.

And so we were talking, when Sally was on the show a few weeks ago, about how she should play Elizabeth Warren, if there was some sort of a debate or something. Or something.

But also, yeah, she has different roles. She's got her Sally Mullins, and then she's got... Who's the other one? I forget the other name, but she's also...

Jamie Foster. Jamie Foster. Right, she's a porn star. And so, yeah, so she has a look similar to Elizabeth Warren.

And, you know, she always plays a cougar. And then, like, within a week is when these grifter guys came out with this whole bogus idea that Elizabeth Warren is a cougar. And they actually produced a marine to say that he had sex with her.

Out of thin air. Out of thin air, they really did. And, of course, it's totally... There's no proof.

It's all pretty bogus, and they couldn't keep the stories straight. She was big into BDSM. Yeah, I was going to talk about that, too. And if anything, that's going to make me vote for her harder.

Exactly. Exactly. She's going to get shit done. That's right.

She's going to dom this nation. She's going to make us do whatever she wants. I was like, where's the insult here? Where's the insult here?

I'm searching for... Starting to think they work for her. Oh, she's a dominated marine? Good for her.

You know, I am more or less a Bernie bro. But I guess she's my number two. And certainly, hey, if she's a real cougar, all the more reason to cougar 2020, you know?

And she did have a good comeback. She said something. She tweeted that, you know, when certain things come up, she's reminded of how she got to go to school on some bill

that you can't go to school on, didn't have to pay all these student loans. And then she writes, go cougars. Yeah.

Because that was her mascot. She was saying, I'm glad education is almost free. Anyway, Sally, do it. Do that parody.

I totally want to write a porn parody now. Do a porn parody. Sally asked me to do it. I've written like funny erotic fan fiction.

She sent me a video. Yeah. Sally sent me a video with her in a wig, just like Elizabeth Warren.

I'm going to come sit over here. She's working on her parody. Do you mind? Oh, shit.

She's already doing it. Well, I mean, her parody as Elizabeth Warren, but I mean, you've got your own parodies in mind. I mean, was it, is it Julia Ann or something that blew up

because she was playing that Alaskan? The Sarah Palin one. Sarah Palin, yeah. Sarah Palin.

Naelyn Palin. Naelyn Palin. I'm from Alaska. Sarah Palin does not tip.

She does not tip what you are awakened. Shots fired. I didn't mean that surprise, but you can see Russia from her kitchen.

You can see Russia from her house. That's that bananas accent that she has. It's not real. No, my girlfriend owns a coffee shop

and she would drive into town and just not tip. Wow. Yeah.

So we gave her decaf a lot. Yeah. She's kind of, when she first came on the scene, I thought she was like a dominatrix.

She's super hot. She was a sports reporter first at a TV station in Alaska and then moved out to Wassella

and just started momming out super hard. Right. Right. Super hard.

So speaking of hard, let's get back to the subject of the film. So you announced yourself as the pervert and you are after all the writer, director, auteur.

I even recorded sound. I was the sound person on a film that I wrote, produced a director. In it. You're in it.

You play one of the bulls. I'm the first bull at the door. And we should say, in case you don't know what a bull is,

what would you like to say? No, I don't have to say. You can say. Oh, okay.

It's the guy or it could be a woman, but usually a guy. It could be anybody who has sex with the cuckoldress.

Okay. So, so where did you get the idea to do this movie? I wrote this actually years ago

when I was still living in Massachusetts and I was like starting to sort of get into the kink scene. Mostly just because I'm a horny dude who's just trying to get laid.

Wow. And you just thought that women who are in the kink scene are more accessible? Yeah.

I was one of those pieces of shit that everybody in the kink scene warns you about. So I was on... So when you say get laid

and excuse me for parsing, but do you mean having like vanilla sex without the furry costume or the BDSM? I've never put on any costume.

No. Okay. Would you? Much to my dismay.

You wish you were that imaginative. Yeah. My brain isn't that complex. Okay, so you're mostly talking about vanilla sex

but that you would want to try to have it with kinky girls or you like a little spanking or something. I mean, I'll deliver. You'll deliver.

But that's not why you're there. You're there for the old In-N-Out. The old In-N-Out, as my grandfather used to say. It's a good burger.

He's never said that. All right, so you got into the scene and you discovered a world of fascinating people. Yes.

And I should have minored in sociology or something because I'm just fascinated by all of it. What did you major in or minor in? I majored in English

and I didn't want to minor anything because that means it's more work. Oh, okay. And an English degree is a lot of work.

Well, the English point off, it's a very well-written film. Thank you. I don't know if you need an English degree for that,

but certainly it's good. So go on. Okay, so you're there and what are they mostly doing? Is it mostly a cuckolding scene that you got into

or was it mostly spanking and munches? Yeah, I've got an account on FetLife. I'm going to munches. Oh, FetLife, yeah.

I'm meeting all these fucking nerds. Yeah, a lot of nerds. If you're into Can't Can't Chances Are, you're also big in a Pokemon.

Those two go hand in hand. Do you consider yourself a nerd? Even though I purchase comic books literally every Wednesday, I don't go to Comic-Con.

I'm not interested in cosplay. Nerd light. I don't have a favorite character. I have favorite writers,

my favorite comic book writers, but yeah, I'm involved in the world, but I don't care. More like nerd adjacent.

Yeah, I don't get outraged when the movies cast someone of color. Oh, that just makes you not a racist. Did I?

Yeah, I don't think all nerds are racist. But most. I do. You do?

No. Well, I don't know. I mean, some. Yeah, that's a lot.

A good percentage. Already alienating the audience. A good percentage. Ain't on a Saturday Night Watchers.

We're all into alienating our audiences here. Hey. I'm on YouTube. Because if you don't alienate some of your audience,

then you're not really saying anything of significance to the rest. This is true. You know? So, okay.

So there you are, and when did you discover the cuckolding? Did you discover that within the context of being on FetLife? Yeah.

And I loved diving into that whole world and just learning. Were you a bull to begin with? I was not at the time. Not at the time.

Were you a cuckold to begin with? No. No. Were you not for you?

No. I mean, I'm not too surprised. But yeah, interesting. But you've been a bull or you were later.

I've been a bull. And you would be again. Yeah, I would be again. You hear that?

According to the couple I connected with on Field today. And how does it feel to be a bull in sex for you, as opposed to just a one-on-one situation with a woman? So here's my theory on the whole BDSM aspect and the power exchange that goes on.

People that are powerful in their careers and their lives, they want to be submissive in the bedroom and vice versa. And so I am a poor person with no power. So in the bedroom, it gets reversed.

I'll be a little more aggressive. And so I... Yeah. Well, I think that that's a rule that is often practiced.

But I do think, for those of you who are out there, you're going, but I don't fit that. Yeah, there are a lot of exceptions. There are a lot of exceptions.

So it doesn't all kind of slide neatly into place like that. But it's true that nature seeks a balance. And sometimes the bedroom is the place to find that balance, even if you're not purposely looking for it.

And sometimes a film is where you find the balance. When you're trying to balance out your own life. And maybe you felt like you were getting into this kink world and you wanted to get a perspective on it, or I don't know.

You wrote something and so what happened? I think it has more to do with my interest in sociology and just the fascination of all these different kinks. And so before I decided it was going to be a film,

I was trying to figure out if it was going to be a web series just because so in it every quote unquote bull has their own weird fetish. And so I was like you could just get any comedian

to play these different people with all these different fetishes. I did have a scene of a guy who was super into feet but was disgusted at the idea of eating pussy. But I couldn't cast it.

I know people like that. Yeah, and I find that so funny. But yeah, I just wanted to make a film because I'm not doing anything in my life.

Well, you did something good. This is hilarious. First and foremost, he's a great comedy writer. You are a very great comedy writer

and you're a great actress of it. Oh, thank you. And we'll see your talents soon. Bob Dev.

He's in the film too. Yeah, well, we're going to show that little excerpt. That's, I think, a fun excerpt for our show. We're not going to play the Mac and me clip that I brought.

No, well, we've got it all queued up and we're going to play it in a little while. But oh, here it is. Maybe we should.

We should play it. Let me just set the scene a little bit that, you know, Allie is the wife. She's the cuckoldress.

And she's agreed to go out with a bull. She's already been out with the character Brett played. And I think this is your second time going out. Yes, I heard.

I would say it's probably giving too much away, but you are the reluctant cuckoldress. I'm very much doing it because it's what my husband wants. Right.

And you say that. Sam, doing this for you, I don't want to do this. I want us to be together. And he says, and he's very clever.

Well, we can be together this way. You know, you go out with a guy, and this is the way I want you to be, is to go out with a guy and then come home

and tell me about it while I jack off. Or maybe hold you while I jack off. But basically I jack off. And I mean, there's, I believe as a sex therapist,

there's nothing wrong with this if this is your kink. But it can be played for laughs. And it is. And of course, you know, for a woman,

it can be, you know, played for laughs. Or it can be the source of great confusion and concern. Like a sense of... Can I talk?

No, no, go ahead. No, when I was watching the film, I was like, okay, we get so many clients that want to talk about cuckolding. But in my life, no boyfriend I've ever had has been like,

hey, I just want to watch you have sex with another guy. So the whole time I was, I was watching the film. I was like, well, what if this was happening to me? What if I was this wife?

How would I handle it? And I was like, but if I love my husband so much, I don't want to cheat. And he's like, no, I want you to, I want you to.

And I'm like, but if I'm in love, I don't want to. So I was like, I was feeling this character. Yeah, she is very much the dutiful wife. Right.

You know, she really loves her husband who not so great. No, he's got it. I mean, let me just say this is a really great funny movie. Go see the cuckoldress.

You can get it on Amazon Prime. It is not what every cuckold is like. This guy is a buffoon. He's, he's kind of not, he's kind of a douche.

Okay. I can say that without giving away the story. And, and, and he, he, he's so intent. He does what a lot of cuckolds do that I warned them against,

which is to kind of push the wife into it and not really find out what her desires are. Yeah, it was a very one sided. Very one sided.

And the funniest thing is, of course, and this is what a lot of guys do say who are cuckolds. You've got this voice perfectly. He says, I want you to be happy.

And he does. He really wants you to be happy as in having lots of orgasms with a bull and then coming home and telling him about it. And that's a definition of happiness.

And that is what he believes will make you happy. And you don't really like that so much, but you know, that's the tension of it. And it's great.

So you've gone out with this furry guy who's your real life boyfriend. He's my real life boyfriend. Aw, that is so cute. So he was typecast.

You were cast first, I'm guessing. He makes sex scenes so much easier. He's a little furry. Yeah, he's my furry.

He's my partner, my writing partner, everything. So this was really fun to do. Oh, wow. That is fun.

And it is such a fun scene. So I think I've said enough of the background of this. And now we can watch this little excerpt from Brett McCabe's The Cuckoldress. Maybe we could watch it sometime.

I would. Maybe we could watch it sometime. I would love to. My husband isn't into any of this.

He says it's for fags. Well, I like girls. So shall we? Perfect actors.

How was it? Weird. How? He put on an animal costume.

And he had me put on an animal costume. What position? Doggy style. Okay, baseball.

Oh, we have a singer of this music. How was it? He could barely fit his thing through the costume. Called a cock.

No, he was a wolf. I was the cock. That was the most symbolic for me. I want to hear about how big the cock is.

I want to hear about how big the cock is. And she's like, no, the cock is very naive, sweet Nancy. You know, yeah, she is naive. But a lot of women just feel that way.

It's like, why do you have to focus on the cock? And a lot of guys just feel like, well, that's the most interesting part. That's the part I really want to hear about. I think it's like women being obsessed with their boobs.

I don't know, there's a lot of guys that... I don't know, it's weird. Like guys always say boobs aren't that important. But when I was a stripper, the girls with the biggest boobs made the most money.

But it's the same thing, oh, cock's not that important. But maybe it is. You know, I think it is to some people. Exactly.

And I think it is not to all cockles, but maybe to a majority that I've spoken to. You know, some, it doesn't matter, but these are men. And they are very conscious of their own penis.

And they want the bull to be somebody bigger. Or else they figure, you know, what fun is that? I want him to be bigger. And, you know, there's a certain element of this that is, you could say,

masochism maybe in our society because we are so property oriented. And you know, if you're my wife, you're mine. And I shouldn't share you with anybody unless I'm an Eskimo, which, you know, I mean, really.

I mean, anyway, it is, I mean, not just Eskimos. It's a tradition in a lot of cultures, not the majority, but some cultures that there is some level of sharing that might go on. And anyway, there's a long, long history to cuckolding.

I have written the definition for the Wiley Blackwell International Encyclopedia of Human Sexuality. I was going to ask if this is an American thing because we love to supersize me for everything. Oh, supersize me for everything.

But you said it's like in all different cultures. Oh, yes. Is it cuckolding or cock size concerns? Yeah, for that, specifically.

Okay, so cuckolding is certainly in all cultures. Okay. And I believe in the theory of, I mean, I believe there's a lot of reasons that cuckolding is popular.

I do want to ask you a question about that. Do you think cuckolding is more popular now or do you think it's just come out of the closet and that it was always in us but that we repressed it because of the way society looked at it and now that we're a kinkier society, things are more acceptable,

more people are admitting to it? Or do you think it's really more popular? I think with the internet we can find everything we want a lot easier. It's hard for me to say what the popularity is like today compared to yesterday.

I was not an adult in the 70s or the 80s or so I only know what's going on now and it seems like it's pretty popular. Very popular. But I kind of think it always has been in the minds of men and some women

but mostly men and I think that because society doesn't accept it, it's been the source of a lot of murder and mayhem. You know, you get yourself excited but you're embarrassed and humiliated so people are going to get killed.

The whole idea has been very problematic and it's still problematic but now it's more acceptable. But why does it fire us up? I think it's because of this phenomenon called sperm wars.

Do you know about that? From the evolutionary standpoint, I've read stuff like the cuckold dudes are into having their wives inseminated and then they'll go in right after to sort of like

and there's a monkey brain that goes, I'm going to fuck his sperm out with my sperm. Yes, there's a monkey brain. I'm going to fuck his sperm out with my sperm.

No, my tab poles are going to fight your tab pole. Yes, it doesn't always have to be so quid pro quo. Everyone's using that term now with the impeachment. But he can't say it.

Right. But I think I want to hold a peach. Maybe I'll even bite one. But do you want a peach?

No, you're good. He's allergic to peaches. Oh, you're allergic to peaches? Oh, wow.

We didn't have any peaches for the meal. Thank you. So yeah, it sometimes happens all that quickly but sometimes it's not that exact.

It's just a guy hearing the story and masturbating like your character. He's not actually going in there to displace the other guy's sperm but it is one of the things that makes him excited

is the idea that his woman has been with another man. She could be lying. He doesn't even know. He does ask for the condom, which I find really funny.

It's an easy joke. He wants proof. He wants proof. He wants proof.

Yes. It's kind of an easy joke except that you'd have to know that. That guys that are into that cuckold fantasy fetish really do, they are excited very often by the actual sperm.

It's one of the reasons I feel that cuckolding is a lot more widespread than we think it is because after all, when you're watching a typical porn movie and you're a guy and you're just watching it,

you're usually watching a boy-girl. Maybe not always. Sometimes you watch girl-girl, boy-boy, whatever, but usually you're watching what they call boy-girl porn.

Basically, you're watching a guy who's probably bigger than you between the legs and a woman that could be your girlfriend, a woman you find attractive. You're the cuckold while you're sitting there watching porn.

Very often there is sperm that you see. You want to see that sperm. You want to see it because that's what gets your cock, like, oh, yeah, there's sperm.

There's sperm in my girl. I got to get hard. I got to do it. And hey, it's very exciting.

I heard this thing that when a guy is watching a threesome where it's guy-guy-lady, he likes to pretend to be both guys. Is that a thing? Yeah.

I mean, usually when you're watching something, yeah, you do like to pretend to be everybody, maybe even the girl too. Oh, yeah.

I'm about to find out. Oh, yeah. I'll follow up with him. Okay.

So I've been drinking so I'll say this much. Okay. In my experience with threesome, if I'm going to share a gal with another guy,

I'd rather he be similar to me. Oh. No, that's a logical version of response. And then I've found if when I'm trying to have one

with two ladies that my initial lady partner wants a girl that's like her. Yeah. And so I have to find the same body type,

the same personality. And you play matchmaker when you're trying to set up threesome. Right. And I don't think that everybody always wants somebody

that looks like that. But you do because you're good looking. So I can imagine. Exactly.

So that's why you want someone that looks like you. Sometimes people want someone who looks totally different. But I think I like girls different than me. I feel like you're a rarity.

I like girls with bigger boobs. And I don't have really big boobs. But I do understand what you're saying. Like if you're trying to set up a threesome,

if the girl's super, super way hotter than me, I would get way intimidated. Like I would get like, oh, I'm too scared. Well, a lot of what cuckolding is about,

and this is one of the reasons it's so fascinating, is it's about taking something that would intimidate most people and making it yours. Okay.

And very often it's about turning a certain type of pain. I mean, yeah, there is this rise in the sperm count. So that certainly helps. But the pain comes because society,

I mean, if it's your girlfriend. If you're just having a threesome with a chick that you both like, I don't think that's the same as cuckolding. I don't think so.

I think that's like a joint effort. That's a joint effort. Well, it's not even always bisexual. A shared interest.

Shared interest, thank you. But sharing a sandwich, you know. Being a sandwich. Thank you.

I like Asian sandwiches. But when you're sharing your spouse, when you're sharing your great love, you're kind of taking a leap, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. So how did it affect your sex life to be in this film? Well, we watch it every night.

I lend them the costume. No, I don't think it affected our sex life. It was fun to work together. That was super fun.

Yeah. I love having a record of an early time together and being able to work together. And I love being in this film.

I think it was just the best first thing I could have ever done. That was your first film? That was my first acting thing. She was just doing stand-up before.

Yeah. Great job. Great job. And that's you in the cocks.

I mean, the chicken suit. In the chicken suit, yeah. That was the most fun time. We were talking about that's the most funniest part.

Yeah. We were dying. We were dying the whole time. And so you're in those suits and you're already a boy

from a girlfriend and you've had sex and you get in these different positions, some of which are bound to be your favorite positions. And are now in my cameraman's reel.

Yeah. I mean, it's in my reel, too. It's like, in one of the reels, it's the first clip that plays.

So was it good foreplay for sex later? I think it was more like, oh, I really love that we can work together. And that intimacy made us closer.

And that, because when you trust someone in your professional life, too, I think that is super special. Right.

I mean, she's just always horny. So yeah, it made her horny. Trust and lust. Trust and lust, yes.

Gotta keep them both. How long have you two been together? We've been together two years. Two years?

Well, you're getting there. You're getting into the regular. Yeah. And we were friends for a year first.

So we've gotten to know each other. In addition to the two years. Okay, good, good, good. Yeah, I was friends with my husband for six years.

Wow. Before we became lovers. And then once we became lovers, we got married really quick.

Well, he was married to somebody. You guys have mutual friends, right? Yeah, the marriage thing. And I just wasn't into breaking up marriages like I am now.

No, I mean, I'm into it at this point. Well, I mean, I guess I didn't, you know, I didn't want to break up his marriage. And now I counsel a lot of people who open their marriages.

And I think it's a great thing to do. Betsy is very opinionated about cuckolding. Yeah, I just, I, for me, like I, I just don't think it's for me cuckolding.

I don't know about you, but I don't think that's something. Yeah, we're not here to preach. That's a good word. Well, but do you think the opposite?

Do you think the opposite? What happened? Showtime. We got a canine on the loose.

Oh yeah, that's Betsy. Okay, everybody's talking about Betsy. Everybody on the chat line. Okay, hello Betsy.

Betsy is all excited and now she's not. Okay, she is. She'll look for any kind of fellow dog to help her out. Aw, poor Betsy.

Everything's okay. We just have, you know, we're talking a lot Betsy. That's all. Just like we usually do on Saturday nights.

Calm down. Okay, so where were we? Okay, so it's not for you. So is it, is it something that you think is really like,

you know, wrong? I definitely don't think it's wrong. I think it is for people who are comfortable with each other doing that. Yeah, exactly.

And asking that of each other, like you were saying, the difference between forcing someone to do it and then the people who communicate and then really set up, you know, their ground rules and their boundaries

and do it for each other. Yeah, like what happened in the movie is like wrong. Because he like wasn't... Well, he's coercing.

Yeah, he wasn't communicating clearly and she wasn't like that. It's not okay. But if everyone's into it, yeah,

I think we can all agree that's not okay. Although somebody has to be the one who brings it up. Yeah. You know, and that is a leap.

The key is to be able to bring it up and listen to the other person and really hear what their reaction is. Of course, that would not be really funny.

No. No, it would not be. No. So you've got to have an asshole.

You've got to have a clown. You can't write a movie where everybody just gets along. Right, right. No.

I mean, well you could, but I guess I don't know. That would be awful. I would not want to watch that movie. A movie where everybody gets along.

There's no conflict. But that could be porn for some people. Well, that is. Don't look at that.

That's right. You're right. That is porn. Everybody's getting along.

Everybody's, and that's what a lot of porn viewers like. Sometimes they do like a little bit of conflict. But mostly, yeah, everybody getting along. So you just felt like cuckolding is a good theme.

How did it affect your sex life? Did you get laid more or less? I do pretty good on my own. Yeah, okay.

I don't need a film to do that. No? It helps. Sure, it helps.

I'm like, what's up, baby? You know, I've been in the CineCank Film Festival. Well, then there's that. Boston Underground Film Festival, what's up?

I don't have a podcast. I'm stealing their jokes, sorry. Yeah. It was cool.

It was cool to do it. And he wrote such a great character. And for like me, I was the only woman in the film. So that was, it was really, I was nervous about it

because I didn't want to let him down because he put in so much work to do it. And money. More importantly.

Yeah, money, time. And it was the most amazing experience because we were treated so well. But I was also super stressed out about it

because I was like, well, I have to not carry the film but lead it. And I'd never done it before. So I was still like super thankful for the opportunity

because it's been really great for me. All right. Well, you do a great job. And, you know, I'm amazed it's your first film.

But hey, you know, you've got to start somewhere. And how about you? Have you made films before? Yeah, more behind the camera, writing and directing

and kind of like, I would do cameos, like small little roles in my own stuff. But lately have been acting more. This was a super fun role.

I loved it. I was laughing the whole time. We didn't record sound for any of those things, which I'm glad because we're just,

we would have ruined every take. We're just laughing the whole time. Now, you know, speaking of furries, did you hear about the guy who was arrested in Florida

for trying to have sex? He's more of a plushie, really. He was trying to have sex with stuffed animals in the target. Did he get consent first?

Sounds like a classy guy. Not really. I mean, he felt bad about it afterwards. He was almost like, he said he was out of control.

And I can imagine. Math is a hell of a drug. Yeah. I don't know if that was what was going on.

You know, I'm a therapist, you know. So I see like, well, poor guy, you know. He does need some therapy. And he needs a lot of stuff down.

It's honestly one of the more tame Florida man stories I've ever heard. Yeah. That's fine.

But the news article made a big deal to say that they disposed of the two animals that he had his way with. That's good.

Immediately. Yes. They were shot out back. No, they're just in the 50% off business.

They were characters from Frozen. I'm not sure if that's... Oh, let it go. Let it go.

It was a snowman. It looks like... Now, politically speaking, cuckolding is very much in the news.

I don't know if you know about that. I only know cuckolding in politics from Hamilton, the musical. Oh, okay.

So there's cuckolding. I think he was more... That's right. They have a duel about that sort of stuff

over somebody's wife. Is it his wife or...? Well, he put out that pamphlet that pretty much just outing himself

for having an affair with this man's woman because he was being accused of stealing from the government. He was like, no.

This money was going towards this man... I'm paying this man to fuck his wife. Right. And they destroyed his marriage.

Hamilton playing at the pantages. Wow, so actually like Hamilton. You'll love Hamilton. That's interesting.

I mean, I think I haven't seen it. The music is great. One thing I find a little strange is just how they present everybody

as this multicultural... I mean, it was a multicultural group, except that if you weren't a white man, you were basically a slave.

Yeah, Hamilton. Hamilton. Cool. I want to see it.

So even though it's not historic, folks, I guess... They didn't wrap back then? What, there isn't a beatboxing in 1773?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's me being a therapist again. So, okay. So politics now, though...

So, of course, there's a lot of rumors about the Trumpis himself being a cuckold. We all know he has had affairs. He is the most unfuckable man on this planet.

But somebody's doing it. Yeah, he usually seems to pay women or somehow... Or maybe they do do it for the celebrity.

There have been some consensual... Yeah. I mean, Stormy Daniels said that she did it willingly. He didn't make her.

But she said it was pretty bad. Shocking. We know all about his sex life, but then there's Melania.

I don't know. I think she's probably pretty busy. And there are rumors of her having a very intimate relationship

with a Tiffany security guard. Nice. Good for her. He's in very good shape.

Somebody's got to brighten those dead lizard eyes of her. Yeah, right. She does. She does.

She always looks so bored. But then she's not with Mr. Tiffany. So maybe when she is with him, she livens up. But really the most well-known

of the political cuckolds right now is Paul Manafort. Do you guys know about Paul Manafort? Wow.

Okay, he's in jail right now, but he was Trump's campaign manager. It's a brutal cuckold. Yeah, it was brutal cuckold.

And he did cuckolding the wrong way. He was Trump's campaign manager and did all kinds of nefarious things in Ukraine,

as well as he had supported all kinds of dictators like Mabuto in Congo, which is where the Bonobos are natives. And so, you know, he's been sort of,

I call him the dictator whisperer. You know, he loves these dictators and he becomes their best friend. But, you know, he did it,

he tried to do it with Trump, but, you know, he's in jail now. But he won't talk, so maybe he's going to get, he's going to get pardoned.

But in the meantime, the texts from his daughter, his two daughters communicating with each other have come out and they're talking about

dad making mom be a hot wife in the center of big interracial gangbanks. And she really doesn't want to do it. We're also white motherfuckers all about the BBC

and the government. Yeah, and this is what it's all about. He's so into it. And he's a racist and so is,

of course, even more so, what's his name? Roger Stone. And he kind of does a similar thing,

although I think his wife is a little more into it. But according to the daughters, and then again,

maybe she's not going to tell her daughters she's into it, but they say she was coerced by Mr. Manafort. And he's in the news again today

because they're finding out that he was giving advice to the Trump campaign long after he left the campaign officially. He was giving secret advice

and they all knew that they could get in trouble for it because of his Russia and Ukraine connections. So there's all kinds of

emails going back and forth between Bannon and Manafort and Kushner. And they're all plotting.

All the good guys. I just laugh thinking about Bannon trying to write an email. And they're cuckolds.

They're so into the cuckolding. And yes, there are a lot of kind of racist people that are into racial cuckolding.

It's a turn on. And it's a dicey situation. Like they're into people of color fucking their wives?

Yes. Like fuck my wife the way we fuck you. Yes. Well, I remember when Obama

first was elected and one of my cuckold clients was saying, oh hell yeah,

I like a black man in my white woman so I might as well have a black man in my white house. And I mean, you know,

I thought that's better than publishing memes. That's a lot better than a lot of people say. Well, you know, yeah,

I mean it's kind of racist but it's a way for racist people sometimes to process things. I mean I feel as a sex therapist

that sex like humor is often a way to process problematic feelings. And that, you know, sometimes you come out

the other side enlightened. And my hope would be that if you have this turn on for interracial cuckolding

then that kind of brings you together with people and helps you to see the humanity in us all. That, you know, I don't know

if it really always works that way. Sometimes you just want to eat a peach. Now you were saying earlier some cuckolds can be violent

and I mean I haven't read any news stories but I'm just laughing to myself imagining somebody angrily yelling, fuck my wife!

Fuck my wife! No, it's not like that. It's more like, I want you to fuck my wife but now I'm having second thoughts

now that I see you fucking my wife. And because we have 12,000 guns in the house you know, I'm just gonna go crazy. You know, because I can't deal with

my own arousal and my own emotions. Because a lot of, you know, cuckolding is a complicated thing to do. It's complicated emotionally.

Even if you're totally turned on by it you might also feel humiliated by it. And even if you're turned on by being humiliated

you might still feel kind of bad. Like a buyer's remorse. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like a buyer's remorse.

A lot of people have that about sex in general. All kinds of sex. But this kind, I would say maybe a little higher percentage

because it's such a leap. Like, yeah, I'm getting turned on thinking about my wife being with this other guy and now here they are.

This has been going on for so long. I can't handle it. And I find that happens very often even with just like regular swingers

like the couple, you know, they come to me as a therapist. They go, well he wants to swing and she doesn't.

And you know, I'm like there to say well why don't you compromise and just agree you're gonna go to a swing party and you won't do anything.

You'll just go and see what it's like and then go home together. So very often what happens is they go because he wants to go

and then she goes, wow this is fun. I'm ripping off my clothes. I'm gonna have some sex here.

And he's like, whoa, wait a second, this isn't what I thought it would be. No, this is reality. Everyone wants to fuck my wife.

Everyone wants to fuck my wife and no one wants to fuck me. I wanna go home. Well then there's that.

Betsy, you have an opinion? It does bring up a lot of emotions and it's great to handle those emotions with humor.

Betsy, you can leave her here. I love you, Betsy. We're not having sex. She wanted to check out the strangers.

Do you guys have dogs? We have a cat named Tim Perry. Oh, maybe she smells the cat. Yeah.

She's after that. Does she smell my snake plant? So do you always do movies about sex or do you change subjects?

This was my first film. I mean I've done movies about sex not publicly.

Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, it was my first film. But when you get famous those movies will become public, I'm sure.

That's why I watermark all of them. Right, there you go. What are you working on now? Trying to write a pilot for TV.

No one will ever see it. I would like to shoot another short this winter if I can You know that just reminded me

that I don't watch a lot of TV but when we go away and stay in a hotel we kind of watch

whatever is on TV. So there was this show called, was it called Wifeswap?

And I thought that was a swinger show. I thought wow things have really gotten

progressive. A girl can dream, can't she? Well, I thought it would be a great subject but no, it's just...

I've seen the celebrity Wifeswap I've never seen the actual... But they don't have sex. Exactly, exactly.

Is that really Wifeswap? Politically they're different or culturally they're different and then the husband

always complains about the wife and the other situation the husband complains about the wife but it...

Reality television is always based in let's get a lot of people upset. Exactly, it's very unrealistic. Yeah, a lot of

emotionally unintelligent people let's get them really riled up and that's all of reality television. And let's get as many emotionally

unintelligent people as we can in the same space. Well, yeah, I mean I have mixed feelings about reality television

because in a way this is reality television. I mean we're just sitting here having a conversation but this is real reality and we have no script.

I'll say as somebody who's worked in reality television for years a lot of it's bullshit the producers are trying to look for a story

so they'll set up situations that don't necessarily happen and then they'll try and get into those

shitty situations to get people riled up because that's what we like to watch when we come home from work

we want to see white trash be worse people than us. That's what we like. I guess so, yeah, I mean

I guess that's what a lot of the reality TV shows do. But I think sex is also interesting and because they're so

prudish maybe they have to do that stuff. But in any case, yeah. So

Spermors and I'm just trying to think what didn't I ask you? it was

Oh I hope it's on a draft from a Spermors really a crisis actor? No.

He put it on Twitter so it has to be real. Okay, so my Twitter bio I'm a comedy writer it's not

real. None of it is real. People were asking me that. In Sandy Hook I'm not a paid protester.

That's exactly the example that I brought out. Sandy Hook I don't know if there are any real crisis actors. I believe in Sandy Hook.

I don't think there are. We already had this debate. There are just actors in crisis. Although there's people that do

agit property. I'm not an actor. Actually the right wing there's a certain group that came into

AOC's town meeting with these t-shirts that said eat the babies. Nice. And they fooled her for a while.

This one woman stands up says you know this climate problem is such a big problem. I mean we have to eat the babies.

We can't have any more babies. She was better at me at being a crisis actress and AOC actually believed her.

But no. She was just a plan. So this sounds like me. I'm for global warming because I think we should just end this

human race. I think we're done. This is what I tell people all the time. I say hey smoking is good for the environment

and they're like why do you say that you're a terrible person? Stop saying that. I say well smoking kills people

and then there's fewer people. Just let us die already. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There's fewer people.

I don't want to just let that hang in the air. All right that's our show. Good night everybody. Wait a second. Wait folks.

I mean we have to have some positivity. Right? I do sometimes think

because we wouldn't destroy all of life. There would be some life and then perhaps it would be regenerated

in a better way. It probably wouldn't be human. The cockroaches would be around. But I think

it's worth trying to save human life and bonobos. We should save the bonobos.

But if we lose the humans the bonobos are going to go. In the past bonobos would have survived without us. Just fine.

As long as we don't have coba from Planet of the Apes leading the brigade. We have real bonobos.

That coba. He is not a bonobo. I was so upset about that. So his name is KOB8. Yeah he's not a bonobo

but they made him a bonobo. But I liked coba. He was misunderstood. He was very violent. He was scar from the liking.

I literally had a scar. What do you want to say Betsy? Go ahead. She wants to. She doesn't want to talk when you ask her to.

She's not a ventriloquist dog. She's fighting with a pillow right now. She's not bonobo. Okay.

Actually that's very bonobo to fight with a pillow. I got to ask out of the blue here. It seems

your movie was almost like a play. Was it ever a play or it was always a movie?

No. It was always either a web series or a film. I don't have too much experience

writing for the stage. So I prefer to write for camera. I mean I've worked in film production for like eight years now.

Did you study Molière when you were getting that English degree? Or actually that would be French. It was translation.

You never heard of Molière? I thought your movie was very Molière-like. Molière because

he would do some homework to find out about Molière because he would first of all the title, The Cuckoldress

he would do plays like The Misanthrope The Doctor, The Invalid and then

it would always they're always very funny and always revealing people's foibles

and very often in a sexual way. A lot of anyway Molière, look him up.

My title is more based off Animorphs. All those titles were like The Challenge The Secret. Oh, okay.

Shout out to Animorphs. Best book covers of all time. Beyond Me. Shout out to Molière.

It's just cross-cultural that kind of titling.

So, where are you guys from? Massachusetts. Massachusetts, okay. And did you come out here to

make it big in Hollywood? You betcha. Oh, okay. I'm making it big. I'm here. As a comedian, actor, writer?

I just I write I do some of the performing. I'm not particularly great at it.

No, we thought you were awesome at it. Exactly. We thought you were the best book ever. Well, he's not supposed to say he's great at it

because he's not codged yet. So he's waiting for us. You are the best book ever. Thank you. Put that on my resume.

Okay. And you? Where are you from? I'm from Connecticut. Connecticut. I went to school there.

New Haven. I was like an hour from New Haven. I was by Hartford. Hartford. Okay.

So, did you come out here also to become a big movie show? Yeah. I went to film school and then I came here

and I just wrote writing, directing, stand-up, comedy, acting, everything. Just trying, trying.

Trying, trying to get Hollywood. Trying, yeah. Trying. Just trying.

Wow. And you're from Alaska? Yeah, I'm from Alaska. I lived in the Philippines for a while. But I was born and raised in Alaska.

I came out here. I was invited to work for the Fox Broadcasting Company. So they moved me from Anchorage to L.A.

And then once that contract was no more, I just kind of stayed out here and fell in love with stand-up

and performing, comedy, writing. All right. And do you guys live together? We do. Wow. So you're roommates

as well as lovers. Are you going to get married? I don't believe in marriage. You don't believe in it? Why?

I just don't think I should have God or the government involved in my relationship. Well, I mean

I don't know that God or the government are they involved in our relationship. Maybe the government. Actually, the government is.

If you're married, the government is involved. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. The government is cuckolding you. Cuckolding.

Who's the government having sex with? Me or him? Both of you. Yeah, no, but I

would like to be with this person for the duration. The duration? Okay. Well, maybe you'll have a different.

I like ceremonies and rituals. I like parties and attention. So I told him he can propose so I can get that attention

and then I don't have to marry him. All right. We'll be engaged until we're 80. There you go.

Well, you know, a lot fewer people are getting married these days. I still think it would be a fun bit

to propose at a ballpark and have her say no. And so have you ever been married? Have you ever been married? No.

Are you ever going to get married? No. You also did not believe it. You want to propose but not get married? Sorry.

I'm hearing two people at the same time. What were you saying? You want to propose but not get married? I don't want to propose to anybody.

You said ballpark. It would be a fun comedy bit for them to propose. I'm just going to eat my peach.

At a ballpark. At a Dodger's game and get up on the big screen and then she's like,

no. He just likes the theatricality of it. Are you guys happy about the impeachment or do you think it's a distraction

from your career or what? Yeah, I honestly, whatever's going to happen is going to happen regardless of what I think about it

so I'm just going to not add. So therefore you don't think? I don't like to think about all that shit because I'm not educated enough

to have an opinion that other people should hear. Do you think the educated people are dealing with things well?

No. No one is handling anything well. So why don't you have as much a right as anybody to an opinion? Not that you have to share it.

Yeah, I just don't feel like what I have to share anyone is interested in and I don't

I don't like to impose what I think on people that I don't have to. Well, I mean, you don't have to, but you wouldn't be imposing it.

Is he actually going to get impeached? He's not going to. We've been talking about this for months. I feel like Trump's just going to get re-elected

while Liberals bicker over the minute. That would be sad, but it's going to happen. You might be right.

I mean, I guess I'm not sure if that's going to happen. That could happen.

And then I think we're in big trouble. I mean, we're already in big trouble. So that's just my opinion. I just think we are all

in this together and we need all of our opinions. Let's get them out there.

Let's get them online. Get your opinions online. That's right. Because these other people are getting all

their opinions out there and their opinions mostly suck. And yeah, I think the Republicans suck more than the Democrats.

But the Democrats are pretty sucky, too. Except Bernie. I love Bernie. But yeah, okay.

So how about you? Do you have no politics also? I mean, I have a few core beliefs and I try to follow along like the bare minimal

that I can to know what's happening. But I'm not one for throwing my opinion into the ring.

Because most people I know they think they're right and they probably are but they don't know what they're talking about. Nobody knows anything.

They're changing their opinions all the time. If more people have this opinion of no opinion then Trump will get reelected.

I mean, people with opinions are getting Trump away. It's like people with you will badmouth somebody

in the news right now and then three months later, something comes out that they did something else that's relevant with your interest.

Now you're supporting this person. It's just a sliding scale of people's morals. And you think we should allow that?

No, I don't think we should allow that ever. I don't think that either. Because then we become part of the fascism and the darkness.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't want that man. I don't want to be part of the darkness. Well,

it's dark right now. I vote. I'm informed enough. I read.

But it's also true that there are some people who are thinking people who are kind of anxious

for the end of the world. I mean, there are of course the people that are... I'm anxious for the rest of my life.

I don't give a shit about that. I want to make sure that nobody takes anything from my head

and from what I do. You know why. I've been prosecuted 23 times in this country.

I spent two years in prison. It's okay. You can steal all you want. But you have to share.

You have to be a good, rich person. Well, that's why I like Bernie. He's going to force those rich people to share. Because they're suffering from affluenza

and it's debilitating. They're not doing too well. So anyway, okay. So what do you want to be

when you grow up? What is your vision for the world? What is your vision for the world? For the world,

I'm not going to be a part of that. I'm just trying to write the funny little flicks for people to watch.

So you just want to keep writing funny little flicks and hopefully get an Oscar or something? Not a minor.

All my favorite filmmakers are not Oscar winners. But things could change. Things could change.

But you're in a bunch of film festivals, right? Yeah, I got into like four or five. What are they, besides CineKink?

Well, there's CineKink. There's Boston Underground Film Festival. There was like the Hollywood comedy shorts.

There was something in Germany that I can't pronounce. It's like the fetish film festival over in Germany.

Is it Copenhagen? No. That's a little easier to say. There was one other

like Austin Film Festival or not the Austin Film Festival like the Austin Shorts Film Festival.

It was nominated for best editing. And how would you how do you feel about people that might watch your film that

are cuckolds and that are turned on by the cuckolding? I mean, as long as you watch it on Amazon Prime and get me

that five cents. Capitalism. Yeah, I got to pay those bills somehow. Still paying off.

Right. Do you have a fetish? I'm big on dirty talk. Maybe it's part of my English degree. I like words.

I like sexing. It's fun. I get really bored. Like dirty talk, like saying like cock, cunt,

fuck. Yeah, literally just all of just caveman brain words. Like if I will judge

your grammar for most of the time. But if we're like in it just shout some caveman shit at me.

And do you shout it back? I mean, do you like it to be two ways with the I'm very mutual.

With my partners. Well, you must like phone sex. Do you like I mean, because that's verbal. There's dirty talk.

Call me whoever's watching. Yeah, call me. Talk about cuckolding. Well, you could be the bull.

The bull in the situation. It's not my preference. Your preference is to be one on one. But you don't want to get married.

I don't want to get married, but I like to settle down with a gal who's not married. That would be nice. So you want a monogamy.

I prefer ethical non-monogamy. Ethical non-monogamy. So I've been single for like five years

because I'm trying to find the right gal for an open relationship and... Polyamory or just non-monogamy?

I don't have that kind of brain. Yeah, you have to keep track of a lot of loved ones. It's too much.

So you want to have a primary, but then a lot of casual sex. Some strange on the side. And my partner could do the same.

So I'm cool with that. And it's hard trying to meet a real good-looking gal

who's funny and down for that shit. So I go on some dates and once in a while I'll meet a cool girl

and she's like, oh, I just got a job on the East Coast. See ya. That's how that goes. So is polyamory more popular

on the East Coast? No, I'm not trying to have a relationship with someone across the country.

Right, right. Okay, do you know Tara Valhalla? Yes, it's my best friend. What does she say?

She says, hey, Brett, let's go see a sports ball game. Sports ball game. She loves the sports ball.

She doesn't. That's what she said. Wow, did you hear Trump getting booed at the World Series?

Happy Halloween. We're apparently talking. Boo-erns? Simpsons joke.

Yeah, well then they said lock him up. Mmm, well, okay.

So this is some impeachment party. I think I'm going to whack my Trump doll and eat a peach. Eight minutes of whacking.

Eight minutes of whacking. Right, no. Does anybody hear like whacking or not really?

You like to whack off, right? I like this, but on a real person. This ball has been whacking in my shed. You naughty.

Like Hank Hill? This is the part that everybody's tuned in for. This is the part where you can talk amongst yourselves

because I get very into my Trumpocalypse voodoo doll therapy. This enables me

to release all of my pent-up feelings of having a Presidents in the White House.

Alright. I'm going to spank the dolphin fetish because she likes it. Now one thing I really liked about

your movie is it starts out with a picture of the Last Supper right above the main couple.

And as you can see, I'm a Last Supper fan. Because eventually the parents will come over and see it, right? Yes, it's a Catholic film.

It is. They seem very kind of normal. More than normal, they seem conservative.

I love how you sent it in the email and you said, watch it with your loved ones or watch it with your loved ones.

I was like, yeah, I'm going to forward it to everyone. Are you Catholic? Did you grow up Catholic? I am confirmed Catholic.

Alright, confirmed. I am unconfirmed Catholic. Were you an altar boy? No.

Close. My butt hole is fine. Butt hole is fine. Okay.

Are you Catholic? No? No, I grew up Sikh. Oh, Sikh. Did you grow up with a turban? No, my dad did.

Me and my brothers, we didn't though. No, okay. But you have a beard. By choice. Do you have a pocket knife?

No, none of it. None of that stuff. Okay. Not for me.

Are you guys into practicing your religions or no? For me, the music. I love music.

Like mass? I did Bernstein's Mass and Anchorage. I did the Messiah every year.

Just because I just love gorgeous cathedral music. I like any church really that has good music, except

for those god warehouses with a terrible rock, you know? So where can we see you perform? You can see

this month I'm at the Comedy Central stage on the 5th. And then I do a monthly show at the Virgil called

the Night Cap with Stacey Ruhmaker, which is a political late-night comedy show. And then just wherever else

I get booked. You can follow me on Instagram at A-Loser, A-L-U-Z-E-R from what it is. Now that's very funny that you're

A-Loser. We have a guy who lives with us, or not lives with us, but he's with us. He's part of Bonoboville.

His name is Loser, and he's an actor. And very funny. L-U-Z-E-R. Yeah, it's just a play on

my last name Lou. It's like A-Loser. Okay. It's just unusual

to find someone who uses the name Loser. But I guess they're from two completely different worlds.

That was his given name is Loser, L-U-Z-E-R. But I digress. Different meaning, right? Loser Twersky, are you here?

I saw him walk through. But I guess he's out there. Hmm.

Okay. And so, can we see you? Are you performing at the comedy store or something? Yeah, Brett.

Are you performing at the comedy store? No, I don't try hard in anything. I'm booked in Long Beach this month,

and I don't remember the name of the venue. But my Twitter's which Brett with two T's, that's

U-G-H-B-R-E-T-T is how you pronounce that correctly. And why don't you want to perform at the comedy store? Is too much work?

I mean, it'd be nice, but I'm not going to really ask to do it. But Sally's your friend. Yeah? Sally!

Do us a favor. Alright, I'll text you later. Come on, Sally. You have to get spanked by her, right?

Well, I'm going to write her Elizabeth Warren parody. That's right. Exactly! Please do that, please do that.

Elizabeth Warren parody coming right up. She sent me a video of her with the wig on. She's just like Elizabeth Warren. Giving a blow job?

Well, drinking 40 ounce, that's a lot more classier, and she's just waiting for him to write the script. I did

move out to LA to write and direct porn, so. Exactly! I'm excited to do it. You have to do her.

And she'll do two different versions. You know, the porn version and the PG version. Yeah, we'll shoot them both on the same day.

Two birds one stone. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. R rated two, you know, X, R, and PG.

Okay, so you've heard about it first here, but Sally Mullins, aka Jamie Foster

is the porno Elizabeth Warren. And we're excited to see that. And we've had a

very nice time talking with Sally's friends who produced a wonderful film called The

Cuckoldress. On Amazon Prime. It's on Amazon Prime. And you might see it at a

film festival or something, but you don't have to go anywhere, do anything difficult, just watch it on Amazon Prime and give Jeff Bezos some more

money because he doesn't have enough. Poor Bezos, he needs it. He is really suffering from it. I'm just trying to help out my friend Bezos.

Right, right, he needs it. So thank you Brett McCabe and

Ali Lu and Bal Dev. Thank you. I think that you

basically given your Twitter information. Did you give yours? My Twitter is

very inactive. You can find him at ALooser as well. No, that's just retweets.

Yeah. That's just so weird. ALooser. Okay, so y'all thank you for

joining us in your beautiful double duplex double mansion

which is what actually Bezos just bought. Two mansions next to each other and it's got something like 100

bathrooms because the guy needs to pee a lot. So whether you're in that or a cardboard box, watch out

because Trump is going to get you off the street and put you in a concentration camp. So wherever you are

thank you for joining us and I want you to be good, be happy, see the cuckold risk,

try not to hurt anyone, don't be a pushy cuckold. Okay, but if you're the hot wife,

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don't just close your mind to it. Try to understand what's going on and maybe there's a way

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and people have different ways of integrating that. So if your way is cuckolding

more power to ya just be nice be be careful

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You can call us, you can call him Are you going to give out your number? No I will give out my number.

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but not always so easy to just handle if these are feelings that you're having so yeah be good

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