ART of the TEESE with Dita Von Teese

Full transcript of ART of the TEESE with Dita Von Teese on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

I'm Dr. Susan Block, your love doctor, your mother confessor, your baby girl, your ever so slightly twisted little sister, your daughter of the American revelation, your horny housewife,

broadcasting live from my big brass bed on DrSusanBlock.com in my Boudoir studio. And tonight we are exploring one of my favorite sexual subjects, the art of the

tease. Everybody needs a little tease, at least sometimes. Men need to be teased because it makes them slow down. Women need to be teased because it makes

us come around. Teasing kind of puts the pizzazz and the mystery into sex, you know? Otherwise we'd just be rotting animals. Nothing wrong with rotting

animals and actually even animals tease, you know? I mean look at the stop, start, pounce, retreat, mating dances of birds and cats and dogs and apes and even

snakes. They do a mating dance. A good tease is erotic but indirect. Building up to total seduction and surrender slowly. As that consummate stripped tease artist

Gypsy Rose Lee once said, anything worth doing is worth doing slowly. A great tease has all the time in the world. And with a great tease, well, you never know

if you're going to get the gold that you're going for. You might, but you might not. You got to be flexible with a tease. You got to remember the golden

rule of tees. You never know. The best laid plans may not get you laid the way you plant. And so you got to be willing to go with the tease, please. Teasing wears a

variety of masks and hats. There's the innocent tease who doesn't even know that she's a tease. Oh, I didn't know my panties were showing and is all the more

devastating for it. And then there's the experienced tease who spins her webs of seduction with consummate skill and sensitivity. I say her because, well, of

course, men can tease too. But teasing is such a feminine while it's manipulative and circuitous, womanly attributes. Some teasing is spontaneous, light as a feather.

Some teasing is calculated steeped in the arts of sorcery. Some teasing is loving and sweet, almost nurturing, like tickling a baby. Tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle. Some teasing

is playful and charming, dazzling. So, so witty. Some teasing is mean. And nasty. Even vicious and cruel. Teasing can be humiliating. Torture. Some teasing

really hurts. Rapes, murders, even mass murders have been committed by people, even children who say they did it because they were teased. Teasing can be

dangerous. It can be quite harmless too, of course. That's why we say, oh, I was just teasing to insist that we're harmless. But it's the dangerous aspects

of teasing that make it erotic that and the sensuous nature of revealing something slowly, gradually, then maybe not at all, then maybe a little more.

Oh, it's too dangerous to show more. Too hot to handle. That's the art of the tease. One of the greatest teases of history is Queen Esther of the Bible.

That's right, brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners. Right in your Bible, you can read all about the beautiful teenage Queen Esther of Shushan in what

is now Iran, who teased the great and powerful Persian king Achashveros into such an erotic frenzy that he freed her people from genocide. How about that?

Cleopatra was a great tease. It was her extraordinary teasing ability that kept the Romans guessing and kept Egypt ruled by Egyptians until her death by a

snake but not your species Eve. In modern times teasing is the stuff of stars. Marilyn Monroe being, well, one of the most famous teases, I guess, Betty

Page, sometimes called the dark Marilyn, was also a great tease. She still is a great tease. And I was privileged to have her as a guest on

my show a few years ago. And though she spoke with me on the air for, gosh, about 90 minutes, she refused to show her face. What a tease. She said she

wanted us to think of her the way that she was, you know, young and beautiful. In other words, she wanted control. And yes, teasing is about control.

Once you lose control, well, you're not teasing anymore. I mean, it's tough to be teasing when you're like mid-orgasm or something. Teasing is about control.

Anyway, during that Betty Page show, I had some special guests in the audience. And one of them was a lovely young lady all dressed up and

with her hair done, just like Betty Page. And she came with the renowned mistress Antoinette. And she spoke to Betty. And it was really

kind of like communicating with a heavenly spirit, you know? It really was, brothers and sisters. It was like a communing with the spirit of

sex, the spirit of sexual beauty. Speaking to the legendary Betty Page. And this young lady was, in a way, blessed by Betty. And now she's

a big, big star. An international supermodel of the fetish world. She's a burlesque performance artist and mistress of the pink bubble bath film

festival and rock star girlfriend of Marilyn Manson. And one of the great American teases of the 21st century. And her name is Dita.

Von Teess. So I'm very excited about having Dita back on the show. And we also have some other fun, fun, fun

guests who are into various levels of teasing and pleasing and painting all different levels here tonight at Block Studios in the

soul of downtown LA. And we've got you also. So if you want to talk to me, and if you're watching me live on Saturday night right now, and if you

want to talk to Dita Von Teess, you can call us now. That's live on Saturday night only at 213-239-0300. Teess me. Please me. That's 213-239-0300.

And I don't mean to be a tease. Yes, I do. But we're going to take a few teasing moments now to switch gears and open up my broadcast bed to

the fabulous Dita Von Teess. So don't come yet and don't go away. We'll be right back. The World Wide Web World Wide Revolutionary

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I don't want to lose my bars. Why don't you go back to the bar? And if you're watching this show live, that's terrific. If you're not,

you can watch it 24 hours a day. Somebody want to hold E, because Dita is not fond of snakes? No.

Okay, I'm just wondering if anyone would like to take responsibility for her. If not, we will put her back in her cage.

Okay. We're just getting ready. And if you're watching us live, of course, we're in transition.

We are transitioning. We are transitioning and you get to watch it all. So it's just like being live in the studio, unedited,

untouched by human hands. Okay. I'm ready for my guest. Can someone escort Dita to the,

or Dita is fighting her own way. She drove herself here. She is finding her way into the bed. She is totally an independent woman.

1940s style. Come a little closer to me, darling, so we can be in the same frame. Yes, that's right.

I think I'm gonna, what should I do? Should I wear this big hat or I'm gonna wear the littler hat? So I don't bump you too much.

Big hat is just for solo. You know, you wear big hats. You kind of go,

do you have a nice little petite here and big up here? Okay, now you have to get your lips very close to that.

It's very mono directional, so we don't hear all their coughs and buzzes out there. Do you remember this?

I do. Very well. This is you and one of the rooms in the Century Wilshire Hotel.

That seems like a long time ago. Boy, I'm gonna have to catch up. It sounds like you already have. I have?

Well, some. Yeah, I did look on the website. I mean, I looked on your website and that led me to other websites and

gosh, your regular gossip item. But that's exciting. No, you're a celebrity or you're a super model.

That's exciting. In my own world. In your own world. Right.

Fetish world. Well, right. We like that world. Fetish is becoming

so much more mainstream, though. So, you know, being a supermodel in the fetish world is like being a supermodel

of the future, maybe. Okay. You know, okay. That's good.

You'll buy that or at least try it on for size. Constant hairs. Going into my lipstick.

Do you ever have that problem? Yes, I do. Right. It's like the old Appalachian lip gloss trail.

Okay. We have camera people. How are we doing out there? Do we have everything we need?

Are we ready to come back? I'm ready. You ready, Max? Are you ready, Max?

I'm ready from Los Angeles, California to the rest of the world. You're watching Radio Susie 1 and the worldwide web radio with pictures.

Talk to her back and for Susan Block, here she is. Hey, I'm back with Dita. In my broadcast bed, you have such a sweet soft voice. Okay.

You have to put the microphone very close. How's that? Yes, that's good. It might mess up your lipstick eventually,

but it's the only way we can hear that sweet voice. So it's so wonderful to have you back. Thank you for having me here. It's been a long time.

Yes, you keep saying what a long time. See, for me, it's been an instant. For you, it's been a lifetime, I know, since you were like this,

but you haven't changed that much, except you don't have the bangs. I think I lost a little baby fat in my face, right? Well, I don't know if I'd call that baby fat, baby.

Maybe it's the look on my face that's changed. I was very excited. You were very excited. I'm a little...

I've seen the world since then. Yes. You were then the innocent tease, and now you're the experienced tease.

Yes. Okay, well, we want to know about those experiences that led to you being the experienced tease. Well, were you always a tease?

Yeah, I remember when I was really, when I was a little girl, teasing in front of the mirror, practicing my tease.

Really? I used to have a real fascination with long black gloves and hats with veils, and I remember dancing in front of the mirror and thinking,

I can't wait till I'm a big girl and I can do this for real. Yeah, well, a lot of girls can relate to that, and a few boys as well. Probably a lot of boys.

A lot of everyone. We all play and tease ourselves in front of the mirror, testing our seductive powers. But you've taken yours out into the arena.

Yes, I have. And what was the next arena for you? Was it the schoolyard or was it...? I was very shy.

I still am, except for when it's appropriate. My first job was... Appropriate, according to the Mormons or the Taliban? Well, I'm not the girl that takes off or clothes at the party

and is dancing on the table or anything ever. I'm very modest about when I show it off. But you do wear a lampshade on your head. I do.

I know how to party, but... Anyway. So, you weren't like one of these girls that teased the boys at the playground? I always had...

I worked in a lingerie store. It was my first job. And in high school, I always had a steady boyfriend. So I was very adventurous with my teasing.

I always had one man. And I like to work my wiles on that one guy. We get to get more creative that way. Some of your wiles.

But now you've worked your wiles on millions, right? Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. You're going to get at that too.

I guess so. So you started modeling? Yes, I... Right around the time that I met you,

when I discovered Betty Page and decided that the world was ready for some of the same things that she was so well known for. And that's...

You know, I always wanted to emulate what it was that people liked about her more than exactly what she looked like. Well, people liked so many different things about her. She was the girl next door, but the bad girl next door.

Yeah. And she was the queen of pinup, but also the queen of fetish. And some of the fetishes were pretty dark. Yeah, she did some wild stuff.

A lot of people don't remember. And they didn't see those photos of her in shackles and having the fear of God on her face. You know, as she...

Oh, yeah, with Irving Claw. That's what she did with him. So what did you think about that? How old are you here, anyway, this picture?

I think I was around 20. 20? Okay. And how long had you been working with Mistress Antoinette? Not very long there, probably a few months.

A few months, okay. And so, and this was when you discovered Betty Page? Probably a couple years before that. Okay, so when you were about 18?

Yeah, about 18, I think. And so did you encounter her as the pinup queen or the fetish queen? Well, I first encountered her as a pinup.

I first saw Olivia's paintings of her. Olivia? So that's, yeah. Very idealized, right?

Yeah. So when I was trying to do Betty, then I was kind of going from her paintings. I wanted it to be really surreal.

So then I found out she was an actual woman and did research from there. So... She seemed like just an icon.

Yeah. And so what did you think of all the wild stuff? Oh, I loved it. I thought it was great that she had so many different personas

and she could be real sweet and innocent one minutes and then she'd, you know, kitten with a whip the next. So were you using whips and bondage in your sex life at that time? Not really in my sex life.

I had just discovered the corset and discovering the corset led me to all the other bondage. Ah, yes, the corset. And it is a form of bondage.

Yes, I'm wearing one and I can feel it. And can we see a little more of yours? Let's see. Oh, look at this one.

That's quite elaborate. Can we see a little more? Of course. I should have been teasing you, but, you know...

Yeah, well, you could. It's still time to tease me. Oh, yes. Well, you did tease me.

You kept that on for quite a while. And now look at that. I like to wear a lot of layers and, you know, get comfortable. A lot of layers, yes.

Well, layer here and then you gradually remove layers. A nice lace little petticoat. So I like to show a little bit at a time. Right, oh, look at that.

Yes, a little stocking with a little polka dot, black and white polka dot. Very nice. I like to have lots of things to play with

and lots of items to tease with. Yeah, well, I can relate to that. Yeah, you do. You do have a lot of things to, you know,

kind of put in different places and arrange over that gorgeous body of yours. Thank you. Now, did you discover you had a gorgeous body

with Mr. Santuannette or did you know that before? I don't. I've never really thought I had a gorgeous body. You still don't think you have a gorgeous body?

No, I don't. I don't. I picture a gorgeous body and I picture, you know, girls that work out every day that are perfect.

Girls that work out every day. Well, that's one kind of gorgeous body. Right, there are many kinds of bodies. But you have a softer body than that.

You look like you work out a little, but not too much. You're too much of a tease and too feminine to work out on. I take ballet classes.

There you go. You know, teasing classes teaches me how to tease. You do. You take ballet.

Yes. Toe? Really? Wow.

Do you ever do like a naked ballet? Yes. Oh, gosh. I have, I do fan dance, of course,

and I do it on point. Wow. And I'm currently working on a dance with a big bubble that's on point, like Sally Rand used to do.

She was famous for this, for the fan dance and for her dance with this big weather balloon type bubble. So I think that goes on point.

Whoa, that's amazing. So have you recently taken up ballet or did you do that as a little girl? No, I did it all my life.

Yeah. So you do have some teasing background. Because ballerinas do learn that early on. Yeah, they sure do.

Yeah. Yeah. But you had kind of an innocent sex background. Do you remember your first orgasm?

Yes. What was that like? My girlfriend taught me how. Your girlfriend?

Are you bisexual? Well, you know, I've, I've not any, not really anymore. It's kind of one of those-

Not anymore. Well, I can appreciate a beautiful woman. Right. You know, those were my wild days.

Well, I think you have a man and a woman in one now or something like that. It's true. It's true.

The best of both worlds. But yeah. But at that time, you had this girlfriend who, how old were you then?

I think I was like in seventh grade or something. Right. Sixth or seventh grade. And she, she was this beautiful blonde

and she had the biggest breasts I've ever seen. Really? On a real age. She was like a double D by seventh grade.

It was incredible. So I remember being impressed with them. I had nothing. Ah, you're a late bloomer.

And so how did she introduce you to your first orgasm? I don't remember all the specifics, but I remember she taught me how to masturbate. So that's-

Like right in front of you, you were across from her. Yes, she showed me how. And she just said, okay. Which now I look back, I said that was like a-

I'm going to show you a fun game here. That was a lesbian experience, you know. Uh-huh. But you didn't think of it that way at the time.

No. I was like, oh yeah. That's cool. Well you know what Nancy Friday calls?

Actually this is college girls who are with girls until they graduate. At which point they hook up with a guy, get married, have a family or whatever. She calls them lugs.

Lesbians until graduation. I think every girl should, you know, get to experience that. I think every woman has it in her a little bit. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. Yeah, I think so too. Now do you think every boy should experience that too?

Experience a woman? Well, both. I guess both. I know how men that are very straight feel about that.

You don't even discuss that. But most women are open to the idea. Someone might say, yeah, you know, it'd be fine enough drinks in me. But I think men are a little more-

There's more taboo on men. Much more taboo apparently. Yeah. But I'm a sex therapist so I know they think about it at least as often as women.

Really? Well it's much harder to act on. I mean, it's a much bigger leap for most men who identify as heterosexual to do that. For a woman who identifies as heterosexual to get drunk and be with her girlfriend is

not such a big deal. I think every man I've ever taken seriously or enjoyed in my bedroom has at least swapped a little spit with another man just to have fun at a party. They know how to party, you know.

You being the fetish supermodel of the 21st century, I would think so. Do you have a favorite fetish? Well, I really love corsets and stockings and high heels. I'm so glad you keep saying that.

I feel better about tying myself up in this thing. And I love to be tied up. I like the damsel in distress. I love rope bondage and gags in the mouth and that whole thing.

Wow. Now when did you first discover that about yourself? I think that came with that. That wasn't something I, you know, fantasized about when I was little or anything.

I think it with seeing Betty Page and then watching, you know, reading John Willie books with all the girls tied up in rope. I always thought that they just looked amazing. And I think I always fantasized about being kind of objectified by...

Well, you're such an independent woman. I mean, so many of the guests that come here on Saturday night, you know, they have to have someone drive them and take care of everything. And you came down here yourself.

And I was just very impressed with that independence. And here you are with all this bondage fantasy and submissiveness. I guess it just shows that that old saying nature seeks a balance. Definitely.

I'm very balanced that way. I'm a Libra. You look balanced. I like to be in control and I like to feel like...

In control. I can go wherever I want. I get on planes and go to other countries just for fun and by myself. But you must like losing control every so often.

Yes, in the bedroom. I like a good, strong man. I don't like wielding a whip in my own bedroom at all. Now, do you like actually being tied up in your own bedroom?

I'm into bondage and spanking. So it's not just for the look. Like, Betty Page would say that, you know, we asked her about that. And she said that she did it for the photographs,

that she wasn't into it in her personal life. Of course, she's a Christian now. But I believe she was being totally honest with us about everything. And it was just something that she really seemed to have enjoyed,

but did it as a fun thing for the camera. Yeah. Well, it must have been different and more difficult for her to find someone to experiment with maybe then.

I don't know. Yeah, probably. Talk freely about... They didn't have radio shows talking about bondage or anything.

No, they didn't actually. And now they do, and now they have fetish supermodels. I mean, Betty Page was probably the first fetish supermodel, I guess. Definitely.

But I don't think that at the time, you know, she didn't... It sounded like she didn't know, or she didn't realize the extent of her fame and still doesn't. No, and she really sort of felt like a bad girl sometimes.

Even though in her heart, she knew that what she was doing wasn't bad. Are you a bad girl? I don't feel bad.

I feel like I could be worse. I'm sure you could. So how about your family? What do they think of what you do?

Well, with the bondage, it was kind of difficult with my family, because how do you explain to your family, well, I do this fetish thing. It's kind of hard to explain to your parents.

So at first, it was kind of like they didn't really know what was going on. But then I started doing things like Playboy. I started appearing in Playboy book of lingerie issues.

It's funny when Playboy makes you acceptable to your parents. Yeah, that was... It's true, though. My parents, like, validated what I was doing.

That's an American icon. We get it now. And when I started actually getting legitimate, traveling all over the world,

and getting paid to shoot fetish magazines, I showed my parents everything I did. The money helps the parents. They like to see magazine covers.

They get excited. So... Uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay.

But the bondage still kind of... I mean, there's some things I wouldn't show my mom, of course, but I think my mom doesn't want to see me strung up on my ankles.

Looking real scared. So, you know, I let my mom see the very beddy page and the pin-up stuff and the fashion. And what do you feel when you're all strung up

by your ankles? Do you feel scared? Do you feel exhilarated? I really...

I've learned how to... Because you can really freak out in some of those positions. Yeah. And I've learned what it takes for me not to get nervous

and scared and worried. And it helps when I'm... Whoever's doing bondage on me for a photo. Like intricate bondage.

If they talk to me and if I talk to them and I'm not paying attention to what's going on and the next thing, you know... Because there's some really...

I've done some really wild poses. And it's easy to let your mind take over and all of a sudden your hands and your feet are numb and you're going, oh my god, get the scissors.

So, I really try to think about other things and mind over matter. Sort of a zen thing. Yeah, sort of.

How small is your waist? Well, this corset actually was a mistake and got made in the wrong size. So, and it's one of my comfortable sizes.

This is like a 20. A 20 is a comfortable size. Yeah. Ooh, girlfriend.

A corset down to 16. You have no waist. 16. Yeah, the smallest I've been measured is 16.

Wow. But that's with a certain corset that was made custom for me to make me go that small. But generally I do around like 17, 18.

So, this is a real discipline for you. 16, that's something you must have to keep exercising. Well, not really. I don't, I used to be really obsessed with it

and saying I have to have the smallest waist of all the fetish models, but I kind of got over it. I used to have people sending me hate mail going, my waist is smaller than yours.

It's like fetish anorexia or something. Okay, I don't really bear as much. Oops, the microphone went out. Test it again.

Hello, hello. Okay, there you are. So anyway, I was saying, I don't really wear corsets all the time

to try to make myself look like a freak show. You mean you used to wear them to sleep and stuff? I used to, well actually I worked in a strip club for like six years and I wore a corset

and I used to work like crazy because I wanted to be rich. And so I'd work 10 hours a day, five days a week wearing a corset the entire time

so that really brought my waist down. Mm, well it is amazing. It's really quite just breathtaking, so to speak. So I did read up on you and what you've been up to

and I see that you are dating Marilyn Manson. Yes, thank you for not asking that right out of the gate, by the way, because I keep doing these interviews

and the first question it's like, so first question or my, I can see that. This is a recent press release

and it's always at the top of my credits now. No, I ask you about your first orgasm long before I'm into talking about your boyfriends. I want to know about you anyway.

I didn't even know you were dating Marilyn Manson. That's how out of it I am. So I just read up on you and I went, oh lucky guy.

To me, you are much more prominent in my psyche than he is. Although, you know, he's a famous person and he's an artist and I've liked a lot of his music actually and his makeup jobs too.

Yeah, yes, we share makeup. You do, I was going to ask you that, yeah. No, he doesn't wear your corsets. No, but I've given him corsets as gifts.

I get corsets made for him and things like that. How did you meet? We met, it's almost a year since we met and he wanted, he was a fan.

He'd seen my photos and that sort of thing. We'd seen each other out a few times just in passing. What did you think of him when you saw him out in passing? Honestly, I didn't think anything of him.

I was like, oh, these people are following me. I saw him and some of his friends out at a show when I was really dressed up. No, I did.

It's just that I'm not very impressed with celebrity. It's like, it's not the weight of my heart. Okay, that's how to get the celebrities girls is don't be impressed with it.

Yeah, don't, just act like you don't care. But his management called my management and they wanted me to be in one of his videos. His management called your management.

You know, in the old days, the parents would arrange dates and weddings and everything. And it's tough to arrange them on your own. So nowadays, parents can't arrange for you

because you've come so far from where you were with your parents. You've changed so much. So you have your management arranged. So your management called, his management called your management.

Yeah, but it was about a job, really. Like he had photos of me and said, I want the girls to look like this. And then his manager said, why don't we just see if she'll do it.

Ah-ha, okay. But I was already booked on something. So instead of a date, it starts with a job. Sort of, I guess so.

It's just a chance. I guess that's how people that are interested in the same things get hooked up. I mean, there's got to be some good reason

that all actors and actresses always end up together to understand each other. He understands why I wear corsets. Yes, he does.

I guess he does. I don't understand it. I'm dying here. But he wears corsets, really.

Yeah, not at home, walking around or anything. Uh-huh. What's his waist? Oh, I don't know.

No? No, I don't know. I'm sure you're more aware of other measurements. Yes.

Well, my audience would want me to say, would you give us the measurement? It's a perfect fit. That's all I'll say.

A perfect fit. Okay, you've answered that answer before. Okay, what's your measurement? No, I haven't, but that's great.

What's the... Well, you know... Well, that was a good one. Depends on the day.

It depends on the day. And so his also depends on the day. That's really in sync. Wow, you're flexible.

So what is Marilyn Manson's favorite fetish? He likes me wearing corsets and stockings. Of course. Okay.

And red lipstick. He's, you know, when I was walking out the door tonight, he was like, you can't leave like that. So when I get really done up, you know, he can't take it.

Really? He's jealous. No, he loves it. He's just like, where are you going?

You have to stay here. You know, he likes my look and my style and... Oh, well you could have brought him. He could have been here as your bodyguard.

Next time. Next time. Next time. But so he was excited to see you go out.

And then when you go back home, are you going to tell him how everyone was drooling all over you? No. He'll know that.

He'll just know that automatically. Okay, we have a question here from our audience. No, this is from the phone. Okay.

And you can call too. Our number is 213-239-0300. And my guest is Dita Von Tees, expert on the art of the tees. And we have Brian online too.

Okay. We are holding on and there's Brian. Yes. Hey, Brian.

Hey, how you doing? I'm doing okay. And I got Dita, Dita, my girl friend. Hello.

Hi, how are you? I'm good. Thank you. So what's happening, Brian?

Oh, not a whole lot this evening. I was just wanted to ask Dita a question. Okay. I was just wondering what her favorite type of bondage is.

Type. Let's get specific. I like rope bondage, Japanese rope bondage, you know, like classic white rope cloth gags, you know, very typical Betty Page bondage, hog ties.

Japanese bondage is typical Betty Page bondage. Yeah, a lot of it. Yeah. Okay, I didn't realize that.

Yeah, I'm talking just rope bondage in general. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Do you like bondage, Brian? Oh, I love it. Really? Yeah.

What kind of bondage do you like? I actually like all sorts. Rope is one of my favorites. Yes.

But I have been into bondage ever since I can remember. And do you like to tie up or be tied up? I like to be tied up. Yes.

I'm good at tying people up, too, because I've learned a lot. So, yeah, I have many talents in the rope bondage. Yeah, rope bondage is like the best. I think it's the best because the person has to spend time doing it to you.

Exactly. And they're paying attention to you while they're doing it. And it shackles another thing. It's like they just hook you up and you're there.

I like the attention. Right. My first true passion is bondage. And my second is to be teased.

So I'm actually being teased while I'm being put into the bondage. Well, this woman's name is tease right here. Have you ever seen Dita Von Tease tied up? Actually, no, I haven't.

Oh, there's like 5,000 pictures of me tied up on my website, I think. Are you on the web right now? Actually, for some reason, I can't get on. I don't know what's going on.

I really wish I could, but no, I'm not right now. Well, okay. Well, I don't know what's going on either. What's that?

Oh, you got a Mac? Is that it? Yeah. Oh, okay.

Russell just said, Russell, our president of New Media said, you got a Mac. That's your problem right there. You can tell that Russell is a PC man.

So it's like the Northern Alliance and the Taliban. One or the other. You can convert and that's okay. But as long as you're on that side, it's hard to communicate.

But you can go through the website and look at pictures of Dita on her website. Yes, well, I have actually been on her website. I've been communicating for the last couple of days.

But you haven't seen pictures of her in bondage? Well, I've seen a few. I haven't seen a lot. I might have seen like maybe three or four of them.

Yeah, you have to dig deeply into the site because I try to balance it out with pin-up and fetish and bondage. If I do too much bondage, people complain.

I didn't have to dig too deep. I found the bondage right away. Good. But I have a nose for that sort of thing.

I found this beautiful picture of you tied up in a Japanese bondage that's black and white, that's in the free section right at your website, which is www.dita.net, d-i-t-a.net.

There you go. All right, Brian. Did you have another question for Dita? Oh, yeah, actually I did.

I actually wondered how long she's been into it. Um, I think when I was really into corsets and lingerie and then when I found a corset when I was 18, I started discovering bondage because where they sold corsets,

they sold bondage equipment. So... I like to mix and match up myself. All right, Brian.

Well, I'd arrange a date between you and Dita, but she's dating someone right now. I understand that. Okay, so you take care, darling.

Okay, thank you. Okay. Bye, thanks. Enjoy being all tied up.

No, I will. Okay. Thank you. Oh, Carmen has a question.

You could now grab a microphone if you have a question, Carmen. Grab a microphone. So where was your first kiss with Marilyn? Oh.

Do you call him Marilyn first of all? No, I call him Manson. Everyone calls him that. Oh, okay.

Excuse me. I didn't know that. All right, so you call him Manson. He gets called Marilyn too.

Okay, yeah. It was, I went to see him for his birthday party. Yeah. And of course, you can't go on a first date on someone's

birthday and not kiss them. So... Right, there you go. That was convenient.

Yes, but was it just a social kiss or was it a serious kiss? It was one of those things where you're not sure if you're crazy about somebody, but then you kiss them and it's all over from there

within minutes you just are engulfed in. You kind of fell in love or in lust anyway. Yeah, that was nuts about him the second you put his lips online. And the tongue, forget about it.

All right, Carmen. Well, that's part of the program here. It's got to be on. There you go.

Dita, tell us about your website and what's your favorite fetish film that you've appeared in? Oh, well, I just talked about my website. You didn't hear.

She just gave it out. But all right, give it out again. Dita, tell us about 5,000 pictures. But I also have another site.

Carmen is director of advertising and promotion. So Carmen likes to get the promotion that's going. I also have another site that has my favorite fetish film on it and it's called Dita and Distress.

And it's a series of four cliff hangers. It's all filmed in black and white. Exactly. And they're filmed in black and white.

And it's really funny and it's cute and it's very typical Betty Page bondage film. So it's Dita and Distress.com. And there's little dashes, Dita dash in dash distress.com.

You may have already discussed this, because I was in the back taking care of some business. But what is your favorite bondage position? Well, we haven't quite gotten into that yet.

What's that? I like when I'm on my knees like this. Okay, let's do a like that. Well, when you're on your knees like this.

Yeah, I like when the knees are all tied up, feet tied up, hands tied, you know, either back or something. And I like a cloth gag because I like the rolling around and trying to look frustrated and pleading to the camera for help.

Oh, you're turning me on too much. It's too bad we haven't got time for a demonstration. Well, now that's a good camera position. What about a sex position?

What's your favorite position to be tied up for sex? I like, well, usually, I mean, I like to have my knees tied together. So having my knees tied together, feet up on my back is nice. But, you know, it depends on how good someone is at bondage.

So, you know, I've had... Knees tied with your legs up? Yeah, I mean, that's like an easy one, because I've tied myself up for sex before.

Because it's kind of rare that, you know, I really meet someone that can tie someone up as well as I could tie myself or someone else up. Now, is Manson a good tire upper?

He's learning. He's learning. He didn't know much about it before. He learned I spent a lot of time tying up a lot of his groupies

when they get out of hand on the road. Wow, you tie up his groupies when they get out of hand? No, it would be fun. We'd make these parties and, you know,

I'd tie girls up with whatever I could find laying around the room, and they loved it. Are you like the mother hen to the groupies? Is that...

You are, really. Sort of, yeah. I like to find... So, it's like you've got a harem of groupies.

Yeah, I like to go... And how far do they go, these groupies? Do they go all just out there? They would do anything.

They would do anything. What is something that they've done that's outrageous like that the groupies have done with that you've seen or that you've been with?

Well, I always try to keep everyone perfectly innocent, I don't want to make anybody do anything they want to do. Of course not. I've seen some wild things, yeah,

usually anything to be close to the band. Right, what does the band really like? Does the band have some way that they audition groupies? No, it's all in good fun.

It's all usually just after the shows, fun parties, people having cocktails, and it's usually not that wild. Oh, we've just gone all the way back here.

Well, you know, it's not like a big orgy or anything. It's not like that. It's usually I do things like say, let's have a wet T-shirt contest.

You know, we just do things that were fun. Really? Wet T-shirt? I don't see you in a wet T-shirt. I know, both of them.

Wet corset contest? Wet corset contest. You know, I like to run a show, you know. Besides fun games that we can all play that are fun.

And so these groupies, they're more the T-shirt? No, but they'll put on a T-shirt, even if they're not the T-shirt type. No.

They'll take off their black clothing and wear a T-shirt. Okay, if that's what you want. So you kind of crack the whip with the groupies? Well, so to speak.

I just like, I'm with them. I'm with the guys rather than against them. I like that aspect. I like their fans.

So what's in the future for Dita Von Teese, do you want to raise little Manson children? That sounds kind of dangerous. Or are you going to become a recluse like Betty?

No, I hope not. I mean, I respect Betty for that, but I wouldn't want you to. Or are you going to become like an entrepreneur, like Antoinette or Filmstar?

I don't know. I really don't know. I like to do a little bit of everything. A little bit of everything.

A little bit of Manson children? Oh, those questions. Oh, wow. I just went on Howard Stern and I got all the questions that make me uncomfortable.

I won't make you answer it, but what question did he ask that made you uncomfortable? He asked if I was going to marry him. He said, are you going to marry this guy or not? It's like you don't really want to be asked on the Howard Stern show if you're going to get married to somebody.

Not at this stage. Well, you know. Well, you haven't announced that you're getting married, so obviously you don't want to talk about whether you're getting married.

It's just not one of those things you don't want to say no. You don't want to say yes, because either way you... See, I didn't ask if you were going to get married. I just asked if you're going to have children.

Right. But let's talk theoretically now. Children and that waste. I mean, you'd have to change.

Well, they used to make pregnancy corsets. Really? Yes. I heard about those.

Not that I'd wear one, but... No, I would hope not. It'd be fine. I'd look forward to getting larger breasts and larger hips.

It just gives more ammunition to tease with. Okay, so you might feel just better about changing your body. Maybe, yeah. You're not too hung up on being this, like,

otherly hourglass figure. No, I'm not afraid of it. Because some women out there probably think you are. I think I'd get more.

I'd have more of an exaggerated hourglass. That's all. Oh, well, it's pretty exaggerated. I mean, it goes really in and out.

And I know a lot of women out there are going, that's impossible unless you just spend every moment of your day working on it. But you just are blessed by mother nature. I like the feeling of the corsets.

I wear them a lot, and it pulls you in. I'm used to it. Yeah. But it must feel good to take off.

Yes, that's part of the fun of wearing a corset for sex or something. It's like the relief of removing it, too. You know, getting pulled very tightly, and then having it removed is like a big relief.

Now, it is very uncomfortable, but one thing I find that it does is it kind of isolates your genitalia. I mean, it kind of makes this demarcation.

And so in a way, it cuts you off from your genitalia, but in a way, it gives you this enhanced feeling there, doesn't it? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's kind of sexy.

Yeah. Yeah, so you're into the corset. What is this, a 1940s or a 19? This is just a kind of a combination of things.

I don't think in the 40s, someone would have really been wearing this corset like this, but my hat is 40s. Actually, it's late 30s.

Okay, well, you've combined. Yeah, I like many different eras, and I just kind of combine it all together. So you dance.

Do you sing also? No, I don't. No singing? Not yet.

Have you tried? Not yet. Well, my girlfriend's an opera singer, and we do shows together,

and we want to do a show where we sing and strip at the same time, so she's going to help me out with that. So we'll see if I can sing. Wow, okay.

Have you ever sang for Mansa? No, I'm real shy about singing. I don't know. Okay, well, we won't ask you to sing then.

No, I don't ask you to sing. But I have to ask you this, and of course, this show is all totally consensual and everything, but I know we have a couple of bondage experts

out in the audience, and I was wondering if you might consent to some level of bondage. You could choose one.

I think we have a couple. Raise your hands. I'm not exactly wearing an outfit that's conducive to bondage. Well, I know, I know, I know, I know,

but just one hand or just whatever body part or a foot to the other foot or something, just for the folks out there. Okay, well, I'll tell you,

I'll show you one of my talents, which is that I can have my elbows tied together in the back. Okay, I'll hold your microphone in that way. So, someone...

So, where are the bondage experts out there? David brought his ropes. Dave has brought his ropes. Okay.

It seems like you're going to continue, darling. Step down and get it. Okay, well, let's get him. Okay, Dave has brought his ropes.

He's probably just going off to masturbate right now. And he'll be back in a jiffy. We know that about him. No, but he's a really good tire upper.

He kind of does the Japanese style thing. You've been photographed by Ken Marcus, haven't you? Yeah, he's an old friend of ours. He's got art that we've displayed here,

and he's really into that Japanese bondage. What's your philosophy of lingerie? Do you have a philosophy of lingerie? I love lingerie.

I like really good quality lingerie. So, yeah, I've loved it since I was a little girl. I remembered seeing pictures of women in stockings and garter belts, and I never understood

why people liked pantyhose at all, or why anyone would possibly wear them. I don't either. All right, Dave,

ascend to the Boudoir studio here. Come into the broadcast bed. Here's Master Dave. This is Dave, and this is Dita.

How do you do it? You gotta shake hands before you let some of the camera out. Okay, shake hands. That's before you let some of the camera out.

Okay, right, because you're gonna lose your hands soon. And Carmen is going to help do some arranging here. But Carmen, just make sure you kind of stay out of the range of the camera, or not too much in the range.

Okay. And so now we've got elbow bondage. So you're unusually flexible. Yeah, I mean, well, it's not that unusual,

but if you are a model who can put their elbows together completely, then you got something going there. You got something going there. There you go.

Very flexible. You could be a little more aggressive. You could be more aggressive, she says. Gosh, you're so trusting.

It's gotta be tight bondage. Do you top from the bottom? Yes, I do. I'm always, you know, saying tighter.

Well, I get a lot of, you know, I'll do a bonded shoot, and someone will say, that was really awful how that one piece was sticking out. It's like bondage enthusiasts are very anal

about how their rope should look. So yes, they are anal. The ones who are really into the tying up. Yes.

As opposed to the ones who just learn how to tie up so that then somebody will tie them up. Right. I'm just arranging your little necklace here.

You're just teasing me. I'm teasing you. Yeah, there we go. What's your philosophy of teasing?

I like to tease with things that you wouldn't, you know, I like to put my lipstick on in front of someone, in front of a man. I like to touch myself where I'd want to be touched,

you know, like subtleties. Settleties. And of course, revealing as you're concealing. Yes, a flash of the garter, adjusting your garters

when you think, when you, when they think you think they're not looking. That's nice. Is that snuck, yeah?

Aggressive enough? Yes. That's more aggressive. Yeah, you just can't be afraid

that I'm going to break or something. Well, you look so delicate. You do. That's one of the pleasures of tying you up,

I think, is that you have such a delicate China doll look about you. Thank you. And yet, you're really quite tough, aren't you?

I suppose. Quite tough. I would say you are just for being here in the studio. I mean, I know you've been on the show before,

but you're among all these some strange people and you're tied up right now. A little bit dangerous. I'm not afraid, no.

I don't mean to scare you or anything. And besides, you can always kick them with those high heels. That's right.

I know how to, I know how to roll around in bondage very well. You do. Yes.

You do. You're good at fighting in bondage. Yes. Betty Page used to do a lot of that.

Wrestling with the rope. Acting like you can get out of it or something. Cat fighting. Cat fighting.

That's a video I haven't done yet that I'm dying to do. Yeah. Really?

Girls in vintage lingerie fighting each other. Yeah, I think that was very popular in Betty's day. And I think there's certainly a fetish market for that, but it's quite politically incorrect, of course.

So, I mean, all fetishes to some degree. Yeah. It's politically incorrect to wear, you know, red lipstick sometimes, you know.

Sometimes. In court, for instance. Is it? Yes, they make you rub it off.

Oh, Carmen's got her little torture device here. Do you like that? Yeah, those are nice. Those are nice?

Okay. It's a little tickler. That's kind of a teaser. That has a name, though.

What is the name, Carmen? I call it the wand. What is it called? The wand.

The magic wand. It has a name now. Do you know what it's called? I don't remember.

I keep thinking of it as some sort of a kitchen utensil. Apparently. I have one of those violet wands, vintage ones, from the 40s. They used to use the shock.

They thought that it was healthy. So, I have a collection of those, which are very menacing. I bet you have some interesting collections. So, you're now being tied up and you've got this sort of pinwheel wand

going down your delicate skin very softly. Are your feelings changing? Is your temperature changing? I'm trying to keep my composure as a lady.

Look, I'm wearing a hat. Yes, you are wearing a hat. You can't do a lot of writhing around and that sort of thing. And a very precarious hat, I might add.

As a hat wearer, I'm amazed that it stays up there like that. But you've got it pinned and you're very balanced. She likes that feeling. He's teasing me.

Mmm. Could I ask you to just, can you kind of inch over this way a little bit? You're an expert at moving and bondage. Just so that we can get a side view and a front view as well as the back view.

Oh my God, it's falling apart. Oh. My model is tall. Your toy just when it was being appreciated by the great Dita Von Tease.

Let's see if we can fix it a lot. Okay, fix it up there. This is good. This is terrible.

Yeah, Dave is good. Well, I'll have to fix that. All right. Well, it looks like it's all fixed.

They're going to be like, toy. What kind of woman are you? Well, you know. Marvelous is what you are.

Where were you brought up? In Michigan. Michigan? In a small town.

You're a Midwestern girl. Yes. And what brought you to Orange County? My dad got a job out here.

My whole family moved out. It's no big, ran away from home story. How wishful. Oh, I see.

Wonder what you might have done with yourself if you'd stayed in Michigan. You think you'd be Dita Von Tease? No, definitely not.

You might even be a Marilyn Manson fan if you stayed in Michigan. Yes. Well, I have to go back there soon

because Michigan is against Marilyn Manson right now. Oh, really? Yeah. What happened?

There's a security guard accusing him of sexual assault for allegedly humping the guy's head. What?

Which didn't... Humping the guy's head? Yeah. Wow.

Kind of hard for me to explain when I don't have my hands. Yes. He's saying that his head was between Manson's legs.

He has absurd stories that never happened. I was there. I saw it. You were there.

And what actually did happen? They have security that's, you know, standing against a wall to protect, you know, keep the audience away.

And he had like an elbow leaned onto the guy singing into his microphone. There was no humping of anyone's head. He leaned on the guy.

Yeah, with his elbows. Like he always do. Yeah, okay. But this guy got very excited about that.

Yes, he got very excited. And fantasized this incredible image of having his head humped. Yeah, having his head humped.

People pay good money for that. Now, Carmen, if you're going to talk, you have to get on the microphone. Oh, I do.

I'm sorry. Yeah, so you get yourself a microphone. I was just saying, I go down for Marilyn. He's great.

I like you boy though. You have better cleavage than he does. So now he has to go back to Michigan to a case where he's being sued

for humping this guy's head. Yes. And this is actually going to go before a jury? He's not actually being sued.

I think he's just trying to press charges, which is... Now, you're going to go back to Michigan, your home state, and to help him out, because he's your boyfriend.

Perhaps. Perhaps. It takes a lot for me to want to go back to Michigan. Well, it's an interesting way to go back.

Susie? Yes, Max. Well, you know, I was just listening to this and I just had to make a comment.

I remember the first time you masturbated with me. Yes. Do you remember how you masturbated? Yes, I did it on your head.

It's true. It is possible to do that. Masturbating on someone's head is actually a very sensuous, pleasurable thing to do.

And Max and I, we met through work. We were actually working on a tape together, an audio tape of erotic fantasies. And we were getting into the whole feeling of it

and we were lying back on this couch and he had his head between my legs and we were listening to our own recordings and his head's moving back and forth between my legs.

And next thing I knew, I was really humping his head and coming all over the back of his neck. And of course, Max has a wonderful head. It's a large head.

I like a man with a large head. And so I had a fabulous first orgasm with Max that way. So I do understand the security guard and his fantasies. But it does take really maneuvering

to get somebody there. I did this on a couch, so Manson wasn't in that position. No, it was quite impossible, actually. Quite impossible.

Okay. Well, you sound like a good witness. I know. I think you've got to go.

I do. But don't wear the red lipstick. Oh, yeah. Then court.

You have to be a little more demure. The hat. I mean, you can't go? Well, okay.

Maybe they'll make an exception for you because you were there. He doesn't even hump my head, you know? No.

Okay. You could say that. I mean, he wouldn't even hump my head. No.

I ask all the time. I can just see you saying your honor, he wouldn't even hump my head. And I ask him all the time.

I begged. It's against his religion. It's against his religion. What is his religion anyway?

I don't know. You don't know. No comment. All right.

All right. All right. Do you share religion? What is your religion?

I'm currently without religion. Are you a seeker, an agnostic, an atheist, goddess worshiper, or devil worshiper? I try not to get into conversations

about politics and religion. Really? You don't? Well, you're finding a way out of this one.

Even though you're all tied up and you can't go anywhere and I could force you to talk about politics and religion.

Wow. Awful. That's very disciplined. I don't know how I could live like that myself,

but you are very disciplined. Do you have opinions about, I can't imagine, you don't have opinions about politics and religion?

Yeah, I suppose I do. I mean, yeah, the only experiences I really had with the religion when I was young were bad.

What were they? Just, you know, I don't like when someone tells me I'm going to hell

and I'm a little panicked. What religion were you brought up with? I wasn't really. My mom went to Catholic school her whole life.

So she was against religion, of course. And she took me to church a couple of times when I was little and just to see if I really liked it.

I didn't and my mom, you know, I just, you know, my parents weren't very religious. No, right.

But they were Catholics, so that's why you like to be tied up and played with like this. Let's see, we have a call.

Okay, I don't know. I guess we'll talk to this person quickly. Wants to be spanked while cock is in a vacuum. Believe it or not,

I've had that call a couple of times. The question is whether it's a Hoover or a shop vac. The name is Thace.

It's on line two. Okay, we're holding. Actually, Dita can't go anywhere. So, are your hands okay?

Are your hands okay? Yes, Carmen is very practiced in bondage. Hey, Thace. By the way, our number to call

is 213-239-0300 and we're tying up Dita Vontiz. And hello, Thace. Hello, Dr. Block.

Yes. Hi. Hi. So, you wanted to talk to me

about spanking and cleaning equipment. Yes. Yes. Household occupations.

I'm 19 right now. You're 19 right now. Okay, you won't be for long, that's for sure. Yeah.

And I'm sticking, well, right now I'm sticking my cock in the suction of a vacuum cleaner. And you won't be doing that for long either, one way or another.

Have you got it turned on? Yes. And what brand is it? What brand?

It's a devil. A devil? Oh, how appropriate. A dick devil.

A dick devil. Not a dirt devil, a dick devil. A dick devil. Well, is it a dirt devil, really?

Yes. Okay, okay, very good. Well, Dita has dubbed it a dick devil, so that's what it is,

and that's what you're using it for. And have you done this before? Yes. You have, okay.

I just want to warn my audience though, do not try this at home. Why not, Carmen wants to know. Carmen is going to try it at home.

So what do my audience would like to hear the sound of the vacuum? Sure. Okay, we'd like to know for sure that you are

vacuuming your cock. Okay, sure. Here we go. Something's making a noise.

I'll buy it. Sounds like a vacuum. That sounds like it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

And you should use a Hoover. They work much better than they have several speeds, I'm sure. Oh, man.

Carmen, you have done this before. All right. Yes. So you've done this before,

and do you come into the tube there? Yes, yes, of course. Oh, yes, yes. It sounds like you're about to.

I said, of course. Right. I do have a request. Have you been doing this for a while tonight?

Yes. Okay. And you have something about spanking you wanted to say also?

Yes, I like at least one of someone over there to spank me at least. Someone over here? Yes, either you, Dr. Block or...

Oh, gosh. Okay, well, I'll spank you then. Okay. I got my paddle.

Okay, okay, I'm going to spank you now. Okay. Can I use your butt? I won't spank it hard.

Yes, can I? Sure. Okay. I'm going to spank Dita as your surrogate here.

Okay. Okay, all right. Okay, you ready? Stick that butt up in the air for me, slave boy.

And... Yes. Yeah. Yeah?

Yeah. Yeah, more? Oh, I feel, yeah, I feel it. Oh, yeah.

Is that okay? It's fine. Is it as good as he feels? He sounds really excited by this.

Okay. Okay. One more. One more.

And I want you to come. I will. Okay. Good boy.

Good soldier. Give it to us. Right up the vacuum. Right.

Oh, God. Yeah. It's flowing in there. Oh, yeah.

It's flowing in there. You're so descriptive. Gosh. Aren't you impressed with my audience?

Yes. Aren't they creative? We have international fetish supermodel here, Dita Von Teese.

And she appreciates your creativity. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Okay, that's a great performance.

Dita can't clap because she's all tied up. We always applaud when people come on this show. It's kind of a tradition, no matter how ridiculous their orgasm is.

We do applaud because we're about pleasure. And many happy orgasms. So that's a great way to channel all your weirdness, Thais, right into the vacuum cleaner.

I shudder to think what you might be doing with yourself if you didn't have that vacuum cleaner. Do you have any parting comments? No, just thanks.

I love your show. Oh, well, thank you, sweetheart. You got a good taste. Thank you, Dr. Block.

Now look at that vacuum cleaner with your tongue. I will. Okay. Thank you.

Good for you. All right. And this is the Dr. Susan Block show with Dita Vontiz and you are numbers 213-239-0300.

Top that perversion. That's the game here. Or you can actually talk about regular things. And fetish is almost a regular thing now, isn't it?

It is, isn't it? There's extremes like Thais. That's the third vacuum cleaner call that we've gotten on this show.

And I think they've all been different people. Amazing. But fetishes like you're in two. I mean, I think almost anyone can appreciate

the beauty of this macrame art. Let's really just have a good look at this beautiful tie-up job that has been perpetrated upon the lovely Dita Vontiz by Dave and Carmen.

Mostly Dave, but Carmen gets the fun stuff like doing whipping and things like that. Oh, look. And you're all tied up.

You are hog tied. You are seriously tied, aren't you? Yes, it's nice. It's tight.

It's tight. It looks good, huh? All right. Carmen is doing the final little tying touch here.

Right. No dangling participles. Okay. And now I think get this cock out of the way here.

We've got all kinds of dicks and feathers and things in the bed. Now, you are a person who loves to be in control. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Does someone just whip me in the face? Okay. Speaking of control? No, take him away from him.

No, that is not okay. That is not okay. No. Carmen, no whipping in the face.

Did you do that on purpose? Certainly not. Certainly not. I think she meant to just get the shoulder.

But still, Carmen, you've lost your whipping privileges. Well, we were just talking about, Carmen, Carmen, you've lost your whipping privileges. You accidentally got her in the face.

So we were talking about control. And as long as you've got a little help, you can maintain control even when you're all tied up. Can't you?

Yeah, see? See? If I weren't wearing this hat, I could flail myself about the bed too

and cause a little damage. Sure. Flail about the bed. I'd like to see that.

We can remove the hat. Would you? No, we can't. We can't.

We can't remove the hat? What? Is it super glue? Yeah.

It's stapled onto my head. Oh, stapled onto the head. All right. Well, you can't do much in that.

No, you can't sort of sit up like that. But you're not supposed to do much. It's supposed to be tight, so you can just struggle against it a little bit.

All right. Come in close. Come in close for a little struggle. Close, going caress.

I have to teach my cameraman here. Caress the body of the beautiful Dita Vontiz as she struggles against the bonds because that is part of the turn-on of bondage

is the struggling, really pushing. And what parts of you, Dita, feel really like bound the most? The hands are the first to go.

They start to get numb and cold. Are they starting to get that way? All right. So let's have Carmen.

You can start untying, or Dave, or somebody should start untying. You should always have a pair of scissors on hand when doing bondage, of course.

Now, Carmen, don't be upset just because you've lost your whipping privileges doesn't mean... I want my flogger back.

I'll give you your flogger back. I'm going to just wait so I'm out of this bondage. I'm going to flog you.

Oh, now would you permit that? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think that's a good idea because Carmen is out of control here.

Do you want me to rip your flogger? I won't. Okay, I know. I'm going to hold on to this.

Sacred. Get a drink, Carmen. And we are drinking tonight stone brewery natural beer

as well as Fernet Bronca. Fernet Bronca makes fabulous liqueurs. Are you a drinker? Are you one of these non-drinkers?

I'm a champagne drinker. Champagne drinker. Ah, yes. Well, we will also be importing

some champagne from France. Isn't that right, Max? Max is going to get some champagne. I'm sorry, what did you say?

I didn't hear that, buddy. Well, we were just talking about alcohol, dear. I thought that might perk you up. We're sitting here with Gary and myself.

Ah, well, Dita is being released from her bondage and she's really looked pretty as a picture all tied up like this. And we're talking about beverages of choice.

If you're into beer, this stone brewery, they're a new sponsor. We'll just spell it out. And they have a very fun philosophy there

for arrogant bastards and I guess bitches too. And bastard beer. Bastard beer. Right, bastard beer.

Are they for bitches too or just bastards? It's just a men's beer. I think it's just bastards. It does seem like it would put hair

on your chest this beer. You've got to try it. It's pretty strong. You can get it back at the bar.

And it's all natural. So we've got to drink it up now. And then there's Fernette Bronca for the sweeter tooth of LeCurre.

Which means that you put it into your stomach. That's how we're streaming to you on DrSusanBlock.com, on the World Wide Web. From Los Angeles, Calif, Radio Susie 1, Underworld.

Call us at 213-239-0300. We're talking about all aspects of sex fetish bondage. Or as the French call it, legotage. Legotage.

You got some French people there, Max? Yes, I do, actually. I have a French artist here, very well-known French artist. Ask him what he knows about legotage.

What do you know about legotage? Allo, Thierry? No, that's Patrick? Yeah, I'm Thierry.

Thierry. Yeah, I have a problem. You have no problem? I have a problem.

You are a problem. Yeah, I love Max. Uh-oh, okay. All right, you got to send me pictures.

Tie him up, Max. Tie him up? Yeah. Okay, I give my bill.

I think he has to be tied up. He's going to get you, otherwise. We now have a beautiful shot of Dave's back. Can we kind of get around that, please?

Now we have a shot of Dave's ass, which is nice, but you know. Legotage. The gentle art of tying up your sex partner. Or just tying up your guest on your show right here.

So are we going to be importing champagne from France? Where's my French connection? Um, we're going to be importing champagne, actually. Yes, for sure.

And also, I found a traveling from France. I found a great new cigarette that just came out here. A great new cigarette. No, no, no, it's not, it's not here.

I called, uh... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Cannot say the name of the cigarette. Wait a minute.

Oh, that will ruin it for all the French people. No, I found two packs of cigarettes. I found... Monteverdo?

A pack of cigarettes that's called Monteverdo. It's made out of cigarettes. Ah, Hellsmeade cigarettes. And the...

The other one is hashish, did I hear? No, actually, the cigarettes smell like hashish. Oh, okay, that's clever. If you smoke them walking down the street,

you get a crowd behind you. So, Max, you remember when we had Dita on the show and we had the legendary Betty Page? Oh, Dita.

Max, I remember. Max. Hi, Dita. Hello.

Hello. How are you? I'm good, how are you? You look delicious.

I went to your website. Thank you. I was in an Internet cafe, and we all went to your website. Oh, good.

And we'll all come again. Thank you. And again and again. Okay.

Did you hear a face coming into his dirt devil? Or dick devil, that's the case, maybe? Yes, of course, I heard that. What's a Dr. Susan Block show without an orgasm?

An orgasm a day makes the doctor stay and do another show. So, are you feeling released or are you feeling... Not yet. Not yet, not quite.

No, I still... This is quite an elaborate design that he's done with you. Yeah, he gets carried away, yeah. See how things go?

And you're so patient. You really are. Well, I've done this a few times. Well, still, still.

Some people might be... I know when to order people around and tell them what they're not doing. Sometimes people do things like put a big ball gag in your mouth before they start tying you up and things like that.

So, I often crack the whip while I'm in bondage and tell them what... I heard that. When it's what's appropriate and what's not. Right, right.

And who do you think you learned the most about bondage from? The guys over at Bondage Cafe and Short Fuse, they're really great. They have websites, shortfuse.com and bondagecafe.com.

But they're, in my opinion, doing some of the best bondage on the internet with some of the most beautiful girls. Now I feel released. Oh, now you feel all different.

Look at those arms. Follow those arms. Stretch them out. Yeah.

Beautiful, beautiful. Beautiful. Dita. Yes.

Are you planning on doing any more films for Gwen Media? Yes. I don't know the titles of them yet, but we're going to start working on something probably the beginning of the year.

And now how about this pink bubble bath film festival? You're like sort of the mascot or something? The mascot. You symbolize bubbly or...

I'm hosting it and performing at it. And it's Saturday, December 8th, and it's downtown LA. Look, I'm trying to untie myself while I'm telling that. And it's sexy short films.

I think there's like 19 or 20 of them. Oh, are you in any of them? I don't know. I don't think so.

I could be wrong though. Okay. But you're going to dance. I'm going to do a burlesque performance.

Oh, great. A teasing performance. And just hosting the events. It's going to be really great.

And their website where you can get tickets is pinkbubblebath.com. That's right. And I will be judging. I will be one of the judges.

Am I going to judge anything? I'll let you win whatever I judge. Okay. Okay.

But I don't know if anyone else will be dancing. I'm going to get a film and enter it soon. I think I'm the only performance. Well, it sounds like fun seeing all these erotic films.

And I don't think they're like regular porn films, are they? I think that it runs the gamut that it's all kinds of sexy films from very erotic to soft and playful and cute films. And you can hold your own microphone now.

See, my arms have been just serving you, you know. I mean, when someone's in bondage, you almost have to serve that person because they're helpless. Dave did a great job. Yeah.

Okay. Dave and Carmen helped. It's wonderful. Yeah.

It's very good. Very good. And you've got the little markings all over yourself. Look at that.

Yes. Carmen, are you going to do the camera or someone else going to do camera? Okay. Then bring it in, bring it in.

We have to bring it into the track marks here, you know. I recently went to an awards show with my boyfriend and I had rope marks on my arms. And so for all the paparazzi photos, you had to wrap his arms around my rope burns. So that it wasn't noticeable.

Yes. Those aren't burns. So that's what's so nice about them. They don't look violent at all.

They just look like these indentations where the rope was gently but firmly squeezing your arms together. Yes. I love it. All right.

Well, I will release you unless you want to stay, which is your... Yeah, yeah, now you're free. Oh, that's right. You have to vlog Carmen.

I forgot about that. I know. Carmen really has been bad. She sounds a little excited about that and you know what you're supposed to do.

Well, you could make it uncomfortable for her. You could make it uncomfortable for her. We need another camera person though. Okay.

Thank you very much, Stan. We always have volunteers in the audience to fill in here. Do a little camera. Okay.

You want to get vlogged too? Wait in line. What do you want Carmen to do? I usually like the ass, but you know...

You like the ass? The chest is good too, but I don't want to get you... Okay. Okay.

I'll sit back here. Yeah, really. This is for a riding crop, but I gotta get... Okay.

I got a riding crop. What? Here. Here's something for you.

You know what? I think Carmen can use one of these. This is my weapon of choice. This is...

Whoops. That's my... That's a riding crop. That's right.

Oh, Carmen's revealed her tits. My goodness. Let's have a look at those tits, camera people. Okay.

Well, Carmen, turn around. Be good. Push that computer down, will you? All right.

Let me push it down. Whoops, no. I guess not. Oh, yeah.

Spank that bad advertising director. This is very motivational. And now... And now...

Oh, lick the shoes, Carmen. Look at those shoes. Those are so vintage, so beautiful. Mmm.

She's passionate. That's enough. That's just, she's such a tease. Such a tease.

Can't give them everything they want. Thank you, mistress. Oh, well, let's have the microphone on that. Thank you, mistress.

Do you feel powerful? Not particularly. Well, you are powerful. You are.

You're a beautiful, lovely, fetish supermodel. And I'm so proud of you because I feel like I knew you when you were just a Betty Page lookalike. And not that there's anything wrong with that,

but now you're your own self and you're just out there just teaching women how to be tied up and still strong. Thank you very much for having me. Oh, my pleasure.

Okay, so give me... Someone else wanted to get flogged. Oh, someone else wanted to get flogged? Angie.

Angie. We want to flog the young lady here. Angie. Oh, Angie's busy with the snake.

Give the snake over to that lovely young lady there. Your flogging talents are requested by this young lady. The flogger assist here. Okay, the flogger.

Here's a flogger. This one's very light. You want to pull down the pants there a little bit? Pull it down.

Well, you know, so we have a little flesh. This won't hurt. I guarantee this is a non-hurt thing. Yeah, there you go.

Okay, nice butt. Very nice bend over. Very nice butt. Whoa.

Harder. Harder. Whoa, yeah. Oh, Angie, go.

Whoa. All right. Thank you. Angie.

I liked seeing her getting tied up. You did? Yeah. That was inspiring.

Yeah, it was beautiful. Yeah? She wants to be tied up, I think. Would you like to be tied up?

I don't think I'd mind. Okay, well, we can do that. Dave has the ropes for it. Dave had good style.

Dave did. Dave did have good style. Have you been spanked before? Have you been whipped like you just were?

Not whipped, but spanked maybe. You were. You hadn't been whipped. That was a first.

I like that that was a first. I like experience, and I also like when people have new experiences here. So how was that for a new experience? It was exciting.

Yeah? So you were whipped by a beautiful fetish supermodel? Like yourself, yes. Well, I am not a fetish supermodel.

Beautiful. Yeah, of course. All right. Well, we're going to have more tying up and spanking and whipping.

We've also got this fabulous contraption inspired by Buckminster Fuller and created, at least some partially so, by Galen who is here with his slave Palomino. And I think it's called a tetrus. And did you see that?

A tetrus. I did see that. What do you think of that? It's very exciting.

It is. And it can fold up and just into a bag. It's really, really portable. I didn't see that part.

Yeah, he took it out of a bag. It's amazing. And don't come yet and don't go away. We'll be right back.

Thank you. Watching Revolutionary Radio, the essence.