Best-Friend FemDoms

Full transcript of Best-Friend FemDoms on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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Peace through pleasure. So today my homage to the naked Athena,

yes indeed brave Bonobo-esque goddess protester rising up from the tear gas streets of the battle of Portland

to confront the camo clothed heavily armed fascist. Yes, let's use the F word.

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and there she is speaking naked truth to heavily armed

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yes and the wall of moms and the wall of dads the fathers against fascists and the wall of vets and the wall of lawyers all these great Portland protesters

well The fascist federalist goonies have retreated How about that? Let's hear it for Portland. Yeah I mean, yes, the doofus trumpus

tweeted that uh that they weren't leaving right around the time that they were getting ready to leave and also around that time he tweeted something about demon sperm or a lady who Supports demon sperm and says

you know You should eat trump sperm to protect yourself from the coronavirus Anyway around that time. Oh and also

delaying the election. That's another good one. Um Yeah, people are saying he did that to distract from his limp Economy

Not that that's anything to celebrate brothers and sisters because we're all going through it in the corona apocalypse, but uh Yeah, they left they left Portland Yay to the naked Athena and

Everybody else and uh, yes, they are probably on to other cities. They are in fact, but um This just shows That we the people from the wall of vets

to the naked Athena We the people Can prevail

In the bonobo way Yeah, mostly Very little violence from the protesters. I'm not going to say none But very very little especially compared to the

The feds and the portland police So yes, we can prevail in the bonobo way against the fascist threat

That isn't all trump But yeah We got to get rid of him meanwhile coronavirus is sweeping

the land So mask up brothers and sisters you like my peacock, uh Number here, you know have fun with it fashion

mask fashion And uh, there's also a lot of sex scandal going around A lot of sex panic Oh and some of it's really scary. I know I know I know it scares me

hey It's kind of spreading Like the rona Because you know there's some bad sex out there

But there's a lot more good sex out there And You know people people love to talk about sex Of course

It's like people's favorite topic, but they feel bad about it They feel guilty and they feel shame if they just talk about it in a positive way And they often are shamed it's not just a feeling they are often shamed

For being sex positive And so of course when you talk about sex scandal That makes it okay, even though it really makes it kind of terrible But you're talking about sex and getting all excited you can feel it. I mean on social media people just

Whoa, those erections are rising and blood is boiling Wetness. Oh is that the heat or is that the scandal? I don't know, but it's certainly Compelling

And uh You know There's a lot of sex panic And some of it is about something truly awful. Some of it is about something

That really happened And some of it is not Something I mean some of it Maybe isn't true

It's hard to know And in the meantime Sex In general

Is just getting A really bad rap Which it's gotten throughout history But when you think you made some progress in the sex positivity department

Then The sex panic takes it all away Well, we have naked Athena not that her Uh

Protest was specifically sexual Although of course it was I mean I got turned on looking at her It certainly inspired

my sex with my 28 year marriage husband later thinking about naked Athena In our threesome, but it also inspires me politically. See I I think They don't cancel each other out. In fact, I feel that

Sex is uh A driving force And It's the essence

Of peace Through pleasure Which is the bonobo way Also the way of female empowerment

The bonobo females are very strong and they don't take no shit from the guys they rule But The guys are happy Yeah, it's the bonobo way

Male well-being You take care of your guys And part of that is through sex Not saying that any women should have sex with any guys that they don't want to have sex with

Not at all But uh Maybe if we just had a little more sex positivity these guys would be as resourceful as bonobo boys Right now we can find them

To be a man It's tough, but uh, we're here for you Having a bedside chat I'm gonna have some very interesting

And Sexy Guests tonight as I usually have interesting sexy guests But um, but tonight. Yeah, very very much so

One returning and one brand new And If you want to give us a call, uh, I think our phones are okay. Yes thumbs up. We had some phone issues, but uh Now you could call us to ask a question or make a comment if you so

Feel moved and yes, you have to use your phone as a phone. I know that's Really challenging. Oh, yes, the phone number is 626-461-5212 And if my guest is ready my first guest

Yeah, okay I'm Excited To

Lower my mask Because now I'm going to have an intimate chat With lily's cat and she's back After I think like a couple years or a year and a half I guess

Uh, she was on the show With mr. Tara indiana And the dominatrix is against donald trump And she was fabulous. So I'm very excited to have lily's cat

Back. Hi Okay, well, we've got a lot of applause for you here And that's cool And so hi, how are you?

I'm good, how are you? Oh, I'm doing good, you know Hanging out in the corona apocalypse. How are you surviving? I'm managing. I'm just trying to stay busy. Yeah, what are you busy with?

I'm doing a lot of online stuff. Um, because I'm a dominatrix So I mostly do in person sessions, but I've been transitioning to doing online sessions And selling clips. Uh, I started not only fans, so Yes, I've been working on that. That's that's the that's the gig

So, yeah, I mean I said you came with dominatrix is against donald trump Which of course means you're a dominatrix. I guess although I guess there were some other people But uh, but that's how we met you And uh, you were kind of quiet in the beginning of the show

and then It was I guess more or less your turn to handle the donald trump surrogate And uh, and you were you were you really took control

You grabbed his balls Twisted them and then you sat on his back and spanked him and then you gave him a golden shower like

I mean Mr. Starak hold it the car wash It was just so Just sparkling and full of liquid, uh

goddess power And uh, yeah, very impressive. I was impressed Look at this Whoa, there you go. Oh, yeah straddling goddess lily

Are you right or left? And she's spanking him with the Forbes magazine Just like stormy you like getting your your pussy grabbed Whoa, yeah

We got some btsm going on here. Whoa We got you know this Put him in his place. Oh goddess lily Oh, this is exciting. She's new and uh

She is now examining the balls Or maybe she did something with her nails And up goes the skirt beautiful tattoos. Wow. Wow, and she's she's now hovering hovering

Oh, and now comes the shower Whoa That she is talented. She is good. She is talented. This is what I call the car wash technique. Yes I I'm always impressed when I can see someone who can do this. I can do this. There's not too many people who can

Wow Wow Wow, wow, wow. Wow. Yeah all over his fucking face and his mouth and his eyes Yeah

Oh my goodness. She's this is what you want. You know this is what you want Golden Fitcher. Yeah Woo, wow

Oh, she's really releasing. Yeah Definitely releasing beautiful She's the top dad spokesmodel. She really that that was amazing goddess lily

A beautiful rush Of womanly waterfall A lot of fun being on the show. I've never done anything like that before For an audience. So it's very cool

Yeah, we had a lot of people over that night. We had a lot of other guests and some audience now, of course the show is very intimate That's why I called a bedside chat But but then it was more of a bacchanal. I think we called that show orgy erotic versus or in um

dad politics Dad being of course the um acronym for dominatrixes against donald trump So I guess I don't know. Are they still Doing stuff. Do you know?

In a group chat with them, um, and so they're still doing stuff, but it's been a little hard with the pandemic I don't think I've done an event with them in a while. Um, because I actually moved to Dallas for a year and I just moved back in march to california so

Wow, but then everything got shut down Okay, so you just moved back to california. You were in dallas for a year Uh during the corona apocalypse or before Back of march. So like I was home for maybe two weeks and then everything got shut down

Wow, it's very disconcerting especially to a dominatrix who's used to having her way, huh To process. Yes. Yes. Well nature, you know, mother nature is the dom to us all So so you're still involved with uh with tara and the dominatrix is against donald trump, huh? Yeah

I haven't done and I haven't done an event with them in a while, but as soon as we're able to again Yes, I definitely want to I usually um do I think the last event I did was dom con Uh, but that of course was cancelled this year. Well, no, actually I am here to tell you it is not cancelled It's just virtual which I know it's not as kind of exciting intimate fun

As getting together with your friends and doms and subs in person But they are going to do a big dom con zoom party kind of thing and I am the mistress of ceremonies Along with the simone justice and somebody else and um, yeah So, I mean it's virtual it everything's virtual this year at least

Uh, so um, so we hope you can stop by I have to look into it, but I definitely um, we'll be there. Uh-huh. I saw you there. Was it last year or the year before? Oh, I would say about years, but I think it was last year that I saw you. Yeah I think we took some pictures together. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, I love dom con, you know, I love

Dominatrix's and the whole kink scene and of course bonobos are my thing and bonobos are the femdoms of the wild So and I and Tara mistress Tara was Signing people up to vote Now I wondered because I don't know if I asked you this when you were

Here with us About uh Well, first of all your name You take it from

The Lilith of the bible the one that adam was first with but couldn't control So god sent her away and she had sex with demons Because she would not be controlled by adam

Is that What inspired you to take her name? Yeah Yeah, by me

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Did you grow up with the bible or um, did you just hear of her? I was raised christian. Uh, I was christian for 16 years, but um I didn't uh, I didn't really learn about her until Probably I was a bit older maybe

17 or 18 Yeah, they don't teach her they don't teach Lilith in Sunday school. That's for sure That's true, but but uh But you know spunky girls always find out about Lilith. It's true

It's true. So uh, so you did and do you uh Sleep with devils Actually just took off my shirt that says satan is my daddy Oh

Wow That's uh, but it's around here somewhere That's impressive. Well, you know, I file follow 666 people on twitter. So I'm with you there

So and satan's, you know pan really The god of the wild So, uh Have your feelings about donald trump, uh

Changed at all since you were pissing all over him on my show No, I think I still have the same feeling towards him and and um Yeah, also reposted uh those photos recently uh

I took some pictures uh with terra at a different event of me We had donald trump in a in a diaper as a baby right The donald baby which is really no stretch. He is

Such a big baby trump d dump d Wow. Well, um, I think he's going to fall from the wall, uh his wall But you never know so everybody has to vote. So, um, if they let us vote, you know

If they don't cancel the election, but you are a pretty politically socially involved dominatrix You know, which is a great thing I appreciate that I don't say uh, oh that's a tara. I didn't I don't really know anything about politics, but she's been

She's been helping me with that. So Ah, so you were not very political. What made you become a dominatrix? So, um, they um became a dom when I was 19 I had a friend uh suggest the career path for me and I

I looked it up online I had no idea what a dominatrix was and I looked it up and I was just so Blown away and so intrigued. Um, I did a ton of research and I just I'm a little bit ever since

I'm I'm blown away that you were only 19. Wow So, uh now Where were you? Were you in la or were you somewhere else? orange county orange county, of course

the birthplace of so many doms and porn stars and uh Yeah, swingers swingers. It's the bedroom community Right

And a lot of donald trump supporters are there. So I don't know if you come from an area like that, but you've You know evolved obviously Parents are uh, donald trump supporters. So they are and do they know about what you do with the dominatrixes against donald trump?

They know about that. Um, but they do know that I'm a dom But we don't really talk about it a lot. I don't I don't think they approve of my uh career path Oh, but you see them and you talk to them Do they think you have a different career path? I mean, do you have a different career path?

I mean, we're actually going to talk about something That is related very much related but a form of activism that you're into now That maybe is a different career path Bigger than sex, right?

That's something that uh lexa has uh brought to me To to do with her and it's been it's been a lot of fun this week. We've been doing zoom drinking For donations. So we're raising money for the cupcake girls. Um, are you familiar with the cupcake girls? Um, yeah, and I want to talk about them in a minute

Um, I do want to say that First of all, I wasn't familiar when you first invited me To do a video and I was just very Taken with the idea of doing

a little gratitude video that was for a sex worker of my choice who Just really helped me inspired me

In my own sex work and I'm a sex therapist. So of course I do sex work And so there's so many That I could thank But I chose to thank betty page

Because I guess she's such an icon And she did inspire me. I I was privileged to interview her in 1996 And she was just coming out of her

kind of Hiding almost In the sense that she had quit Being a sex worker

I pretty much at least publicly and she was Very active in her church And so she felt she had to keep it on the down low everything But meanwhile this cult of betty page arose and then she decided okay

I'm going to write a book about my life and I'm going to come out and The first show she did was my show And uh, and they said she was going to be on for 10 minutes But she was on for an hour and a half. So that was pretty cool

And she really you know made me understand how Helped me to understand. I don't know if she made me understand, but she helped me to see How important

Sex work is To a healthy Sex-positive society And also

We have bangs so Um, and you have bangs Uh, your bangs are a little different now Yeah, I just cut them. Um

The other day I've been playing around with them. I haven't decided if I want to keep them straight or What I want to do with them, but I think it's really awesome that you, um Put out betty page Yeah, I've got a little chapter on her and my interview with her in our spanking art

magazine, um Yeah, you know and she's inspired so many people I guess is another reason I chose her is because I knew That you know a lot of people who maybe didn't talk to her but looked at her a lot, you know men and women Have been inspired by her

Um, I mean, I didn't talk about this but one thing that was very inspirational about her Is that she did the kinkiest Nastyest things well, maybe not the kinkiest nastiest thing, but she did kinky nasty things And always looked like she was having fun

always looked and you know I asked her were you always having fun and she did say that most of the time she was a few times she was Uncomfortable like when she was the jungle girl and they tied her up and her feet were off the floor

And she was like I can't stay like this. They had to cut her down But uh, mostly she had a great time and she looks at she just got that kind of face That projects joy And anyway, so yeah, so um, so I didn't see your uh gratitude video yet

Who do you think? Still has not been released, but I actually think king lexa in my video. Well, that's a good segue Because I do want to talk about bigger than sex because like I said, I didn't really know what it was I just thought this is a great thing to support sex work is all I knew and

I since then have been finding out more, but let's get king lexa on the line and uh We'll have a little Chat, thank you so much for having me here. Oh, I'm very happy to have you uh, you know your good friend of

Um, lily's cat who is she there is lily there too. I can't see. Oh, yeah, there she is. Okay Max your camera is right in front of them. Um, So I can't see them. Uh, so okay, so great. So we're we're all here. So, uh, king lexa We're gonna talk about bigger than sex and we're gonna talk about the cupcake girls

But first I want to just talk about you a little bit Or maybe a lot So, uh, I know your friends with lily. So you must be very cool and she thanked you for your help in the

Sex work industry. So that's very special And, uh, I think a lot of people are wondering why a beautiful Womanly woman like yourself is a king and not a queen. So What can let me explain where do I begin? Um,

So I like gender role play. I like the whole power exchange in bds and m and King to me personally. I am a woman. Let's get that out of the way. Yeah. Um, I just identify

my energy as masculine and Being a female supremacist I also find that why should a king only be a man when a king could be a woman?

Adding on to that when a man calls me king. It also is very depowering on their end and All those facets of king lexa makes me who I am And maybe something to do with a strap on

Oh, yeah, of course. I'm a daddy. Let's not I mean you can't deny my big daddy energy Well, yeah, but you know, you're also very feminine and uh, you know, you have those Feminine curves and qualities, but yeah, you've got you definitely are a strong woman very athletic seeming you you work out, right? Yeah, I work out is an understatement. It's um, it's a lifestyle

Wow, so do you have any sports or activities that you like to play? I like to consider the gym my sport Um, here and there. I'll I'll try other stuff. I like to run. I like to play tennis I'm very athletic. I'll go hiking

But my main go-to is the gym. I love to lift weights And you also call yourself a fendom or a find on financial dominatrix I never know how to pronounce that fandom Fendom fendom. Okay

It sounds like something on a fish though so, okay Fendom and that's a financial dominatrix and in a way, I mean All doms are fendoms, but there's a special

quality to someone who calls herself a fendom Yeah, I I wouldn't categorize all dominatrices as fendoms. Um, I would say A lot of them aren't when it comes at least my definition of financial domination is

basically men Submit to me with their finances. There's not necessarily any type of Traditional play as in whipping or spanking the satisfaction comes from the transaction of money Okay, well, then it's very focused. That's true

I guess I just mean when I say there that Dominatrixes are not just dominant women. They're professionals. So they get paid and um, and so In a way, they they all get paid for what they're doing And so do you you might get paid more? I don't know, but you certainly make the paying

a focus of the relationship You got it. Yeah And so what got you into that?

well Lilith, uh, Lilith got me into the traditional antiquated dominatrix the whole dungeon Flogging the shibari the whole ordeal um, I did that for three years and

I always felt That I didn't fit in exactly I have a money fetish and it doesn't really work when you're a traditional dominatrix I was always trying to set the bar with my rates

And what I didn't know was that there was a thing called financial domination when I discovered financial domination through twitter I was like, this is it. This is who I am. This is what I really want. I just didn't know Um, so I've been a financial dominatrix officially I want to say for a year and a half

And when I say officially I'm talking professionally like I actually announced it I've been doing financial domination without knowing that there's a word for it Way before then Getting money from men who adore you

Exactly. Yes, yes And maybe worship you or just want your attention Correct And you give them something some attention, I guess

You know, there definitely is a transaction. Um, it's my attention. I humiliate them even something as A response, but it's not Expected does that make sense? Yeah

So, uh, yeah, it's not like it's plotted out after all it's up to you so, um Would you say that this is your sexual Turn on or one of them?

Definitely my sexual turn on it's when I say sexual I speak more towards a psychological aspect Um to me financial submission is genuine submission um Not that not to diminish any other sort of the other sort of submission, but to me personally

If you're not submitting your finances to me, then you're not genuine in your submission to me So that sets the tone for everything else that I could want to engage with you But it's not going to happen without the finances in my hand Okay

deal so And is this how you are with I guess all your lovers or I mean not to say they're even lovers But do you have lovers? I guess that don't pay you or not?

You know, this is something My whole like financial domination is something I carry on not just like like outside of the camera All right, I talk about it. I make videos about it. I have a BNs. I have island clips When it comes to men outside of that

I mean, it's the same thing. I don't I don't just hang out with men to hang out with men Men that are in my life understand their place in my life. So to be quite short I'm a lifestyle financial dominatrix Right. Okay. So they all got to pay. They all got to pay is just some of them get more of you than others

I would say so. Yes, and it I Engaged with vinsubs depending on how deep they're submitting to me and that's based On money but not necessarily the amount but also the consistency and the loyalty they have towards me I care about commitment. What about what they look like? I mean does that I don't care

You don't care. You don't get turned on by certain guys that look good or girls any girls you get turned on I consider myself Bisexual but not in your traditional sense When it comes with to men, it's only a ds setting

Strictly been dumb. I am kinky. I love chastity. I engage in other sorts of play With men. It's very humiliation based Now with woman. I'm a lot more traditional. I don't really play. I don't I don't financially dominate woman It's very vanilla

And I do have traditional sex with woman So I'm very different in um, yeah areas Interesting So, do you know why I mean is that because of your just your personal desire or because you know women aren't going to pay for that sort of thing

most women You know, maybe you could answer that for me No, maybe I need to get to know you better. Yeah, uh, but uh, I I guess You know women tend

to not pay for kink As not as much as men or they do when they're in a relationship with a man like a couple might pay Do you have any couples that come to you?

I've I've seen couples not my cup of tea And in answering your other question not to digress but that's okay digress away awesome, um, I guess I To humiliate a woman and degrade a woman not that I haven't done it because I have experienced

I believe in experience experiencing things in life versus just assuming that I don't like it Um, just doesn't sit right with me. Yeah So I don't involve myself in it anymore. I've tried it. I'll probably do it again, but it's not my choice Like my cup of tea. I don't wake up wanting to do that

um And I forgot your your other question So did I I'm sure we'll come back to it So, um, but let's let's kind of skip along here

Because I I did listen to part of your interview with our friend Maribel blue And we love Maribel blue and she loves you. I mean, uh, she really was very enthusiastic And you were talking about Uh, I guess having

Um gotten to a certain level of success in your financial domination work And wanting to do something more And to give back

To your sex work community Um and and work with your sex work community in a somewhat different way um And and so you got involved. I guess I'm kind of skipping around here, but uh, you could fill in the blanks

You got involved with this group the cupcake girls that Is doing a project with you called bigger than sex

Is that all accurate pretty much. Yeah almost Would you like me to elaborate sure So, how did this happen? Um I

I joined this this program and I had a lot of awakenings happening in my life. I I believe a lot in coaching um Development life coaching so and that's a lot of my money in that and

I did this coaching. I did this program with the bull of Attracting everything I want in my life money back then was a big thing and when I got it It wasn't what I thought it was going to be and it was actually quite empty And I'm like, this is really all I wanted like this is it for me. This is what I'm going to be known for like this

That's it And that was disturbing Like if all I'm known for is making money, then I've truly failed myself as a human being

But also my community So I decided to do something about it. I wasn't going to stay that way So with the help of my coaches um, and I joined this self expression and

leadership program I created bigger than sex Because I discovered that to live a life. That's not about you is the most powerful way to live a life

And I I wanted woman in the industry to experience that that level of living of being for someone else And that's when bigger than sex was born and I wanted it to be Tied in with a charity

Well, no, that's not how it started. I had this story about tying it in with a charity I did not want to tie it in with the charity because as I told my coach I was like, I don't want another area of my life to be about money I really don't

I um, but you're a financial dominatrix. I thought that was that turned you on It does but I found it so liberating for something to not be about money and be about somebody else I didn't want to be attached to a financial goal again. Does that make sense? Well, what makes sense is that nature seeks a balance

And when you get to a certain point in life, sometimes you want to change And you you know, you you you do feel I mean you felt and it seems that you still feel that money is very important But there's another part of you that wants to go beyond that And I think that's great. I mean, I think it could almost be called bigger than money

That might be interesting But but I mean, I don't know if you would have come to this point if you hadn't Reached your goal of making the money It is a paradox. Um, and I

discovered that in picking on the coaching and Creating a fundraiser. I was looking for charities and I discovered the cupcake girls and what led out to them about me Was how quick they respond I called them. I talked to joy who was the founder. I shared the vision and she was moved touch and inspired by it

And that's how it was born I see. So when did that happen? Um, I want to stay a month and a half ago. Oh, okay All right. Well, I think it's great the certainly the the gratitude videos

It gets a lot of sex workers out there and it uh, it expresses Appreciation for other sex workers, which is nice You know, it's as I say very bonobo because the bonobo females are very empowered They have a lot of sex with each other and with the guys

They're great apes very close to us And yet they rule they're the only great ape group where the females are the kings. It's true And uh, and you know, they they get their way, but they do it with pleasure I mean they they hit sometimes like spank, but they never kill each other, which is also unusual

in the among great apes But in any case I'm You know very excited always about Movements towards female solidarity female empowerment

And you know, but I always want to make sure the guys are okay If they want to be hurt okay, but you know just make sure they're okay. We we kind of need them um I don't know if you feel the same way or maybe more of a amazon look and

Let the guys just be sperm donors as long as they don't have demon sperm What do you think if I were to have a child I would that it would be a donor I wouldn't have intercourse with the male Really

You could just serve as the donor. Yeah. Wow. Okay Do you have intercourse with males at all? No, it's not my cup of tea. Okay No, piv No, piv. No. All right. All right, but you put your

Dildo you're you do some pegging. Yeah, like I say I I don't get fucked. I fuck Right and is that because you don't like how it feels. I mean, I imagine you've tried it Yeah, I've tried it. Um, yeah, I don't like how it feels. It's not enjoyable or else I'd be engaging in it, but I don't feel that way

Right, okay Well, it's all kind of making more sense in a way or as well as getting more complicated Which is what real life is all about. So, okay, so these um, so the cupcake girls I mean, I've I'd heard of cupcake girls before

But you've only really been working with them for a month I thought they were kind of a quasi religious group that went to strip clubs and gave people makeup and tried to get them to Follow jesus, but or maybe in your case you since you're also king lexa god That was a joke, but

But I don't I guess because I looked on the website. They're secular They're based in vagus and organ and I've heard People bring that up. They're non Religious, so there is some other story and I believe it's about a different charity and it has a same name somewhere in australia

Oh, okay, because I have heard from strippers mostly who have been visited I think by cupcake girls who bring makeup and and stuff and I'm maybe cupcakes and uh, and then you know, I mean they're very nice and they talk about you know joining the church and

I mean nothing wrong with that, but I Just I'm well as that's not the same group, right? No, that's not the same group. Okay And so I'm wondering too. Um, I know that you're I mean your objective is to empower fellow sex workers

Is that and tell me a little bit more about how you want to do that so with the movement that you actually Took a stand in um with creating gratitude videos bigger than sex is about creating a space for sex workers to

Stand for something bigger than themselves, right in this case It's the fundraiser going on for the cupcake girls. So it's just a way of being To give back to the community We also just did a fundraising game

drink for donations where I mean it was so moving to me to see Adult stars thin doms from new york like all over the place just get together and host their own fun Their own drinking games and raise money and we raised like I want to say The last two days we raised like over 1400 dollars

And to me that was so impressive because I wasn't even there. It was all them Wow And so the 1400 dollars goes to the cupcake girls or yeah, and what do they what do they do? I mean I know they don't try to get people to join a church. Do they

I mean what tell us what they provide Yeah, so the cupcake girls helps sex workers and sex trafficking survivors in many different ways I mean, there's not just one way. They also are all helping sex workers have have been affected by covet um, uh with resources

Therapy the list goes on and on and on how have you been affected by covet? You know, I have been affected very positive positively Um, I think you got your whole idea in the midst of the corona apocalypse, you know, you know Covid was one of the main reasons why I created bigger than sex. I wanted to see what?

Well, it's not that I wanted to see I had no choice but to see Um on twitter woman who weren't fined doms because most fined doms are online But traditional dominatrices aren't and I was seeing a lot of women Who I've known personally

Really get affected by covet and it broke my heart Um, and I wanted to do something about it It was unbearable for me to just watch Because you can't build an online platform overnight. This takes months

If not, maybe a couple years to build a successful online business and I was seeing women try to try like not that they had to do it overnight covet happened literally overnight and Yeah, that's that was one of my first motives to take action and

Well, that's great, you know, I I think a lot of people in many different professions need help with adjusting to this new era of Difficulty in physical contact with each other, but we are

Making other contact, you know, and and we just have to learn how to do that in a way that is both gratifying and You know, dare I say monetizing And it's it's uh, it's being done, you know, and a lot of sex workers need to learn to do it and

One thing about it is it's pretty much legal all around Doing things on the internet with webcam the phone whatever And that brings me to another question I have which is I mean How do you feel about the criminalization of certain types of sex work? Some types, you know, I'm a sex therapist. It's legal

Being a dominatrix is mostly legal Being a prostitute it becomes now very dicey and scary and dangerous and What do you think about the decriminalization of

sex work Well sex work is work I don't look at it as something menial obviously I'm a sex worker and I stand for anybody else. That's a sex worker I personally have not been affected

Even though what I do Is a gray area Back when I was a, you know, real-time dominatrix and I don't I'm not I'm not I don't agree with sex work being criminalized

Okay, good. I'm I'm wondering if well, I guess you're The the organization that is doing the activity as the cupcake girls Do they are they trying to decriminalize? Uh, the sex work that is criminalized. Is that one of their objectives?

That I'm not sure I can't give you an answer because I don't know about what they're doing in that area so Again, what is their main objective? To help sex workers and sex trafficking survivors with financial assistance

Okay, whatever that may look like for them. It could be dental work. It could be therapy anything Okay, well, that's that's good. I mean they pay for it or do they just point them in the right direction or how does that I don't even three

I believe that's where the the money that I'm raising is going to go directly towards Being able to finance that for them Wow, okay So it's kind of like a Medicare for sex workers. I mean it could be

It could be that yeah, which brings me to another issue. I don't know, uh, if you're on, you know On top of that, but um, you know a lot of businesses Had to close obviously in the corona apocalypse including strip clubs And uh, you know the trump administration doesn't want to give them covet relief

And we have some friends that are up in portland, which is the great protest city and uh, they're the What is it little devil or Lucky devil lucky devil strip club lucky devil lounge and now they're doing something called boober eats

So that their strippers can continue to work So they're delivering food because they always did make food and you can deliver food But it doesn't make them that much money and it's you know, it's a whole different thing. So, uh, yeah, there's this There's this of course gigantic stigma. I mean one of the reasons

that sex workers are so often depressed and Traumatized and get themselves into bad situations. I'm not talking about Trafficking now. That's a whole other subject. But just consensual regular sex workers have difficulty

partly because of the stigma Attached to what they do partly because they can't tell their family partly because our society frowns on sex workers so much and I I don't know. I I feel like that's an important goal

for some organization to Uh move that along and not just decriminalize sex work, but also Work to destigmatize it

Yeah, that's a very good point that you bring up the system is not here to help us And that's very unfortunate And with the money raised that's some that's an area where I would want the money to go in to help Woman who have been affected by COVID who don't get government assistance, right?

Um, especially the woman that you're talking about as of now that dance Yeah, so I just got a note that Lilith is there. Can we see everybody now? Oh, hey, here we are Lilith is back

His technology is uh, got his challenges, but um, we get together and here we are and uh It's uh, it's it's it's nice, you know to be able to at least see each other Although I hope that when this is over Y'all come visit

Finopoville Lilith has been here. Where do you live? Uh king lexa. Are you in california? Orange county. Yeah. Oh, you're an orange county girl too. I actually live literally five minutes away from Lilith Wow, well, that's convenient

So your girlfriends, but you're both doms who dominates who? I think we're just right there Wow, we saw some sexy video of you. I mean not like x-rated, but um Sexy video of you like shaking your ass and smoking and spitting

Well king lexa is spitting which video. Yeah, I do spit a lot You spit a lot. Okay. So I I don't know it was a video uh online somewhere We were just looking you up and uh, there's a video of you smoking and smoking And then spitting and I think a slave is holding a tray

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Uh-huh. That was an LA All right. Okay. I'm glad you remember And so spitting is a thing and uh, what what else do you is are things that you two do together? So I started sessioning with Lilith actually we started

Like together basically, um, we've we've done a lot together. We've we've done floggy I mean we've we've done it all. I can't think of something we haven't done We spit together We've done golden

And so the submissive has to pay twice as much At least That's only fair Right. So okay. So Lilith you're back

and uh, and it's interesting that you got king lexa into Domination work. What were you doing before king lexa? I was a personal trainer. So I was living at the gym. Ah, right makes sense

Right if they those two professions kind of go together in a way you're doming people already telling them to work out and in a way You're already doing the dom stuff Yeah, it's honestly the same thing. I found I always see when I'm at the gym I push as a trainer. I'm pushing limits as far as how much weight they can lift, right?

Because in order to build muscle you want to break down the fiber And and a bds and mc I loved pushing limits Right same thing. It is very very similar. You see it's things like this. I think that are important

Uh to the de-stigmatization of sex work kind of connecting sex and kink To the rest of life to things that people are familiar with

You know, we're all familiar with trying to work out and how Having someone Coaching us helps. Well, in a way a dom does that Uh, I don't know. I think I'm not sure I'm not sure I quite get what the cupcake girls is

After except I I'm totally with the female empowerment And and by the way, there are quite a few male Sex workers too And all sex workers do

Need empowerment because of the stigma Now Lilith, of course you started at 19. So I can't even ask you what did you do before you were a school girl before? I guess were you already were you already acting dominant on the playground? Well, I I got a fake ID when I was 17

So I was going to bars and making men buy me drinks Naughty naughty. Okay. Well, yeah, you started your financial domination. I grew up. I grew up very quickly I was always too old for my age Wow

And so yeah, you you became dominant. I mean you it doesn't it doesn't sound like either one of you Did the submissive thing before the dominant Thing some I've never done this some do that. Yeah No, so you just were naturally dominant. Were you dominant on the playground too, uh king lexa?

Yeah, I've been dominant. I want to say all of my life I don't know how to be anything else at the current moment. And what does your orange county family think about King lexa. Do they know? Yeah, I actually came out to my mom my dad and my brother back in november when I was

Yeah, I told him straight up. I called them. I shared it with them Were they shocked or were they did they already know? I thought it was going to be my mother knows my mother loves me obviously, but she happy that I'm happy You know, that's not so obvious

I mean, there's there's the obligatory love but the kind of love where she's happy if you're happy that's special and and that's Something to be grateful for so I'm very grateful I can share anything about what I do with my subs to my mom My father is very proud of me not necessarily because of what I'm doing, but who I am and what I do

Because you make money. No, I don't know Not the money. No, not the money. Okay Good. Well, I mean, I think parents like when their kids can get on their feet financially You know, but uh, but yeah, I'm sure that they

They like that you're doing something that's bigger than sex so to speak although I have to say I'm a sex therapist And I don't think anything is bigger than sex But I I'm defining sex in it like a gigantic way. I mean, I just think sex is like the essence of life It's the life force arrows as opposed to thanatos. So to me, it's the creative force

It it creates humans, but it also Creates everything it it creates your idea for bigger than sex is your sex drive your your desire But you know, that's I I know that society Tends to think of sex as like this

Very specific thing that you do in the dark Exactly society thinks it was more about society viewing sex work as Something menial and we're so much bigger than what we do for a living Well, and that's true of yeah, and it's like any

In a way sex workers I was gonna say sex workers are like celebrities. Well, certainly porn stars are or even if people have just an only fans They're kind of celebrities to their followers their Clients and everybody wants to know that

I mean, it's it's a balance, you know, people want the celebrity or the sex worker to be a fantasy At the same time, it's really, you know Exciting and draws you in to know little Personal details about your favorite god or goddess

Yeah, I agree. We are Yeah, so I'm sure that a lot of your fans are getting off on hearing your personal details here They love it when I when I do interviews I bet yeah

So is there any secret that you have that you want to tell? Confess. Wow. I'm pretty I'm pretty much an open book. Let's see if I can think of something Well while you're thinking do you have a secret to tell lily? Yeah, I don't have a secret. Uh, I don't know

Well, uh now is your sex life pretty much Your domination Activity or do you have lovers separate? from your

work So, um Yeah, in my my sex life is totally separate from my dorm life um

I keep my sexual partners. It's usually pretty vanilla um, well, I partake in a lot of um Like events, I guess kind of like I've I've done your voice went out what you you've partaken a lot of what? A swinger events. Oh swinger events

Maybe like Open and loose with lovers, I guess I don't know. Well, that's very Drunk and make out with people. That's that's bonobo. Uh, and so

I bet your clients are excited to hear that because they feel cuckolded by your sexual activity Yeah, so maybe that's a better Um, I was a secret but I don't I don't really ever partake in sexual activities with any of my clients Right, right. Yeah

But at a party, but you probably like spit on them and walk away And do you keep your your like regular sort of quasi vanilla lovers secret or is that Something you share with the world or not? I only have any like, um

serious, uh Lovers at the moment. So I don't really have any to share Um, but if I did have a boyfriend, I wouldn't um, I wouldn't feel like I'd have to hide it Okay, and your boyfriend wouldn't necessarily be into kink

Maybe a little open, but I I I don't look for um I don't I don't really want to do bdsm in my like daily life Okay every now and then for fun, but so king lexa gave a little giggle at that. Why is that king? It's because I know that she doesn't want to do that in her private life

And because I know what it's like to be with someone who We it's it's really I don't want to say it's hard, but it's tiring when you're out Cleaning a real-time dominatrix when you come home to your girlfriend or boyfriend and they expect you to do the same thing You just did for five hours

Right, it's like pay me That's work Uh-huh. So you want to do something different sometimes Yeah, nature seeks a balance very often although some people are dominant all the time and some people are submissive all the time

A lot of people are a little of this and a little of that at different times And so uh, so you gals are in business together now. Is it business or you're you're both doing The bigger than sex together. It's a project. It's a movement Kind of a business in the sense that you're raising money

drinking for What is it drinking? Drinking for donations So do you do the drinking or do the do the uh, the viewers do the drinking? I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with that

But I should get familiar with that. We should have drinking for donations, right for the bonobos We should do that get everybody drunk Who gets drunk in this who's doing the drinking and who's doing the paying? So the women are the ones doing the drinking

But the drinking is only done when someone has made a donation minimum of $10 and in that donation They get to also ask a question of their choice. I thought that would be a great experience for the donor Um, you get to ask three girls the same question and they get to know the answer After the drink they get the drink and then the question

What kind of drink do they get? I Who is this? I think ali did. I don't know what ali did ali was in the game like every day

I was doing vodka mostly. Um, my day was that's a good day and friday um, but I did Stop in have you guys gotten a vodka sponsor yet? I wish I drink so much vodka. I need one. Okay. This this is your chance

You have a non-profit. It's part of the work Oh, yeah, you should get a vodka sponsor Who do you you have a sponsor like sneakers or something or that's cupcake girls have a like a sneakers sponsor Or I don't know

Yeah, that's not nice and then that's my sponsor. So bigger than sex is really like brand new. Um, right Well, I'm excited for it and I hope I can You know, uh continue to contribute and and put in a little influence in terms of you know, the whole idea of the decriminalization and Especially destigmatization. I mean one thing we haven't talked about is sesta fosta

which was passed, uh, actually Around the time when Lilith was first on the show and it was passed by almost every senator I want to give a shout out to Ron Wyden from uh, from or again Portland baby because he voted for the hookers. Yep. He said hey, you know, we can't

I mean the whole idea is to stop sex trafficking, which nobody's for sex trafficking I mean except really nefarious people But the problem with this law, I think and a lot of sex workers think is that it penalizes regular consensual adult sex workers

Uh, and doesn't do a whole lot to catch The traffickers um either sex traffickers or any kind of human traffickers It it's so far has has harmed sex workers in the sense that they took down back page

And craigslist doesn't run ads. Yeah, can I say something? Go ahead captain? And once again once again the poor Suffer suffer because they don't have not the not the rich Rich they're fine, right, you know, but it's those poor people that are on the street working hard That's who it harms because they have to go back to the street because they don't have, um

You know the advertising Of course things are somewhat different in the corona apocalypse, uh, but at the same time Those avenues are still not available, you know, um

And uh and anyway, uh the the whole I mean, I know that cupcake girls is Helping trafficking victims, which I think is totally great and admirable

um What I get very concerned about is that the police confuse consensual sex work with Trafficking Yes

Okay So, uh 10 minutes, I I think it's important and I I did see a differentiation on the cupcake girl's site Uh between of course trafficking and uh consensual sex work I guess I just think it's important for the general public. I think about public relations all the time

And it's important for the general public to know that there are a lot of great sex workers who Do a lot of good in the world

and um and And they handle a lot of guys, you know mostly guys somewhat couples and girls, but mostly guys And and some gender fluid people but mostly guys and uh and and they handle a lot of guys that you know need handling need help and uh need sexual healing

That sex workers provide in different ways, whether it's beating them or beating them off you know, uh and um anyway, I just hope that You know bigger than sex can uh can further that uh showing sex workers to be

wonderful human beings because we are No, that's a very good point and I'm gonna ask joy Maybe they are doing something about it that I'm not even aware of

But that'd be very good information to provide you Um and it's funny you bring that up with the gratitude videos I was hoping that that was going to be captured because the goal of the gratitude videos is to show diversity and sex work Not just porn stars or dominatrices because usually the general public thinks that a sex worker is just someone that has

Sex right intercourse for money. We're so much bigger than that. That's just a small piece of the pie And with the gratitude videos, I feel like it humanizes us. You don't see sex workers being grateful like that I have never seen anything like that right and you don't see like six different types of sex workers in one video I do think it's a great thing to show that sex workers have friends

And have inspiration, you know, we have people that we we think and and I'm glad that I was included I'm a I'm a sex therapist and I consider myself a sex worker And and so, you know, there are many different types of sex worker Right. So anyway, I'd love to have you back when you're a little further along

but Any closing any closing kind of message you want to leave with our audience here each of you I don't know who wants to go first I'll go. Um, first of all, I want to thanks you for having me here. It's a pleasure. I'd love to have you

In any way or form for the movement and I look forward to being back. So thank you Oh, my pleasure. Well, I'm excited to be at the birth Of uh, of a new movement that is uh, you know pro sex worker and pro humanizing of sex work And what would you like to leave people with lily's cat?

Yeah Yeah, yeah, I I want to thank you as well for having on the show This has been very interesting. I've never been interviewed with lex that the same time. So this has been this has been very cool And I'm excited to see

What's next for the movement? We did the the shots for donations this week. So I don't know. What are we going to do next week? I'm excited to find out. Don't do heroin next Uh, yeah stick with the shots. I don't know. Well, you could do toks of marijuana. I guess it's legal in most states now Um, so I guess one thing interesting to watch maybe is how the marijuana movement operates, you know

Because it's another kind of stigmatized thing That puts people in jail, you know, and uh and sex work. I mean is it it's it's a pleasure It's you know, it's something that needs to be Public-relationed anyway, you guys are doing it. So, uh, I appreciate it

I want to see what happens With it and uh And good luck. Okay doba dobas Yeah

All right King lexa And lily the cat Yes, uh very, um

Beautiful women both of them really really beautiful Uh, of course while I was talking to them. I was so interested in what they were saying I wasn't thinking about how beautiful they are, but now that they're gone. I can say wow Hot hot hot in totally different ways, but they go together

And that's why they're girlfriends Anyway, brothers and sisters. We're uh almost at the end of the show. Oh and um and dominatrix is against donald trump and I believe that Lilith is in this issue of speakeasy magazine

spanking art and uh speaking of that, uh a lot of doms are of course in spank and art and uh I am going to be the mistress of ceremonies

for dom con 2020 So that's going to be august 28th I believe august. Let me see. Do I have it on a note august 28 through 30th? And um, and so yeah, you should drop in

I mean, it's not as good. It's not as fun. It's not as intimate as a real in-life dom con But on the other hand, uh, it is Probably cheaper. Um, I mean, I don't know what it is to join the site at dom con dot con But I'm sure it's less than you know staying

at the hotel and going to the convention. So Sign up and we're going to have some people from dom con on the show soon before we do it And uh, and yeah, um once more. Thank you for inspiring us naked athena

and uh everybody the wall of moms um and uh the dads and the vets in the battle of portland and of course

They were sent very unsuccessfully by Donnie two minutes. I'm going to keep my mask on when I get near him because he's constant. I think he's one of those Spreaders that doesn't show symptoms That's how evil he is

And that's why I am spanking him and just in case you're wondering He is being gagged On a water pistol. That's right It's non-lethal and a lot better for you than those rubber bullets

and tear gas Pepper spray right in the eyes. It's disgusting what people Were doing these federal goons in portland and so wonderful that they could be just chased out by the people chased out

and especially The sexual All right brothers and sisters it is the bonobo way Yes, indeed

the bonobo way is to Make peace through pleasure and yes female empowerment But the males are happy

And there's a lot more to it than that. It's complicated But that's why I wrote a book about it. So you got to get the book you got to give the bonobo way

and you got a Well, what do you got to do max? Uh, we got three more minutes, right? So I mean one thing we were talking about the other day is You know, of course people can't be having regular sex unless it's with

You know your monogamous partner but Bonobos are also about sharing Sharing resources

Which is something that we humans need to learn You know I don't know if it's bigger than sex But it's bigger than money

I think it is sex to share sex Sex is about sharing And that's why I say sex is the essence Of life. We're talking about moving forward. We're talking about recreational sex

Yeah, even even procreation is about yes. It's also about sharing. It's also about Um Before planet Yeah, well, we shouldn't be popular and you know what it's funny how many during the corona virus

I have mixed feelings about this during the corona apocalypse people are having less sex Which I kind of think is bad because I'm a sex therapist. I think having sex is good We're having about the same amount. Yeah, but um A lot of people are having less because

I guess they can't stand each other I guess that's what it comes down to they're cooped up together And they drive each other crazy. Oh, they're beating each other and shooting each other. Yeah, it's not just not having sex It's a lot worse. What are you doing?

You know and uh What are you doing put those fucking guns away? Really? This is a dangerous time, brothers You know you guys are mostly all you white terrorists up there are mostly drunk all the time And you're on coke and you're on and feather means yeah and drinking has gone up and we're not talking about the drinking for donations

Right, uh, you know and bad drugs. Anyway, whatever you do Make like bonobos not baboons make love Not war. It doesn't have to be piv penis and vagina sex. There's all kinds of ways to make love to share together

to share Make love to someone you love tonight Even if that someone is you I love you

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