Sex at Dawn III

Full transcript of Sex at Dawn III on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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Brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners, authors and exhibitionists,

lawyers and connoisseurs, farmers and foragers, professors and porn stars, sex pots and sex perts. All you children is sex, and we are all children of

sex with a capital X. It is true. We may or may not be children of God, Jesus, Marama Dhamma, or the goddess, Gaia, we don't know, but until we start cloning ourselves, we are all children of sex. Can I hear an amen?

Amen! Can I hear an A-women? A-women! I want to welcome you to Dr. Susie Speakeasy in the soul of downtown L.A.

We're in the womb room, baby. Broadcasting live on Radio Susie One on the World Wide Web, World Wide Revolution, World Wide Sexual Revelation, we are occupying the internet like everybody. But this is our little corner, our little womb room, children that we are of sex.

And tonight, we children of sex, we're going to talk a little bit about our sexual parents. No, it's not an incest show. Well, I don't think it is. You never know with this show.

We're going to actually be talking and experiencing something related to our sexual great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents. That's really great. Our very promiscuous common ancestor.

No, not common. What is it? I got a microphone issue. See, our ancestors didn't have these issues. They didn't have the internet.

They didn't have microphones. They didn't even have farms. But they had sex. And they actually had very similar bodies.

Maybe it's my back hairs. They had very similar bodies and brains to what we have now, which is what drives us so crazy. Anyway, we're going to talk about that.

We're going to experience that. We've got a lot of really great guests in the womb room tonight. But it just so happens, there's a book about this subject. In fact, I have like several of these books in the bed.

It must have been an orgy of reading here. It's at dawn, the prehistoric origins of modern sexuality. I happen to have the authors of this book right in the womb room right now. Both of them, Christopher Ryan and Casilda Jeffa are both here.

And they happen to be a couple, isn't that romantic? And they wrote this amazing book that you just have to go out and read. And in the meantime, we'll talk about it a little bit. And I don't know, somehow I think it's going to inspire some adventures tonight.

So I have Christopher Ryan here, Dr. Christopher Ryan. For the third time, well, the first time was on the phone. And then the second time was in the other room. And now here you are in the womb room.

Welcome. We are not going to turn your microphone on. That's the thing though. You can be here.

It's wonderful to be here in the womb room. You are in the womb room. And Casilda's here right behind you. She's not talking yet.

We haven't gotten any agua into her. But she's here. Hi, hi. So good to have you.

I'm so excited. This is your virgin experience in the womb room. Yes. That's exciting.

So, so welcome to this womb room. Now you have like this bevy of beauties on with you. Good thing you brought Casilda this time. I'm feeling very nervous.

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean we've talked about Sex of Dawn. This will be the third time really. Although I talk about it all the time on this show.

It's one of my favorite books. Along with Bonobo Handshake by Vanessa Wood. And she in fact introduced me to you guys. And this book, by the way, if those of you who are Dan Savage fans,

if you care, he says that this is the most important book to come along. Since the Kinsey report. I mean book on sex. So, so it's important.

So we're doing important things here on this show aside from just jerking off. Right. But actually this book tells you a lot about jerking off really. And gilling off.

And so speaking of gilling, let's talk a little bit on female sexuality tonight. I think that's a great idea. Because I think that, you know,

your book debunks a lot of conventional wisdom about female sexuality. And I just have this feeling that so do all of these women. Good. Let's hear what they have to say.

Yeah, you want to? Okay, we'll move on. I'm here to watch and listen. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I'm so excited to have you. So here is a woman that looks like she's ready to debunk some conventional wisdom. This is Danny Jensen. Hello. Hello.

Oh, listen to that cartoon voice. Wow, you sound like Betty Boop. I'm probably just a small and fun size. Yeah, you're a fun size.

How tall are you? Five one. Wow, that's a little pretty package. And you're a porn star, aren't you?

Yes, I am. Woo, we got some cheers there. All right. And where are you from originally?

About a little town about an hour east of LA called Glendora. We know all about Glendora. Oh, do you? Yes, there's a lot of porn stars from Glendora.

Really? Why is that? I had no idea. I haven't met anybody else, another fellow porn star from my home city.

I know of yet. Why do you think you became a porn star? I graduated to porn star. First I was a waitress at a strip club and then I became a dancer.

Waitress is a gateway drug, right? It is, absolutely. Anybody will tell you. And then I became a dancer and then recruited to the big league.

So having fun all the way or making buck? Yes. I honestly love having sex and getting paid for it is just the park to me. Okay.

So you're a natural born slut? Yes, absolutely. I'm a natural born slut and proud of it. Okay.

Well, welcome to the speakeasy and the womb room. Thank you. Pop my cherry. Yeah, you're a virgin here.

Your womb is a virgin to the womb room. It's true. Have you heard anything about this place? I haven't, but I'm very intrigued.

Well, I'm going to introduce your companion here. I think she's the tall version. Yes. You're the little one and this is 511 Jayden Cole.

Hello. Welcome Jayden. Thank you. I was going to say, I've got a stripper pole in front of me.

Yeah, and you've got a stripper pole in front of you that you can just get right up there. You might hit your head on the ceiling. It's not that high, but you are welcome to ascend the pole anytime you feel the spirit of the pole. Lifting me up onto the stage.

It might just do that. Oh my gosh. One more drink and I'll be flying. My guess before I get you all liquored up.

Okay, so now you are also a porn star. Yeah, specializing in the ladies' love. The ladies' love. Lesbian love.

Oh yeah. And is that a personal preference or did you just kind of fall into that professionally? When it comes to being promiscuous, my preference is definitely the ladies. Promiscuous.

You identify with that word, huh? Yes. Now, interestingly this book, Sex at Dawn, do you like to read? I love it.

I can't wait to talk about this book. I don't know that much about it, but I'm really glad you guys are here because I want to hear all about it. I've heard a lot about it. It sort of rehabilitates this word promiscuous.

That has really gotten a bad rap. Because now you are going to have to correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's from a Latin word, misser, to mix. It just means mix.

It doesn't have a value judgment on the mix. It's a meaning of connections. Of uity, I guess. It's pro.

It's like positive. It's pro-mixing your uities. I like that. It's uities.

It's about your dirty ancestors. That's what it's about. Sexuality coming naturally to all of us. Sexuality comes pretty naturally, doesn't it?

And it seems like the promiscuity comes pretty naturally. I mean, monogamy is a... I don't know, have you tried monogamy? Not even tried.

Okay. Well, this book is for you. It tells you all about the background. Not just your parents, but your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents

who did this pretty naturally, kind of had sex and did everything else in these small groups. Freelove. To Glendora and then became a waitress and then a porn star.

I don't know if it was free. I think you might have had to give up a banana or something. A trade currency of the times. Sex for meat.

Although not necessarily, if you're charming enough. We had the same brains and so we could sing a song and seduce each other, I guess. A writer book. Oh, a writer book.

Tell a story. You could tell a story. I like to imagine the storytellers got laid a lot. Oh, certainly.

I don't know if there's any evidence for that. Yeah, yeah, because they would also sing. They were the musicians. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, they got laid a lot. The artists always get laid. That's true, that's very true. And the porn stars get laid.

Mix of sensuality and openness. Right. Who are the porn stars of our ancestors? Well, we do talk about that in the book, how some societies had women who would go in the hunting trips with the men to motivate them.

To motivate them and they get naked and dance. So there would be six or seven guys go out on a week-long hunting trip and one or two women would go along just to keep them company, cook when they're out, you know, hunting, and then when they got home. I don't know if porn stars don't necessarily cook, though. I do.

They're really cooking. Oh, you do? There you go. What's your specialty?

Shredded chicken enchiladas. Not bad. You want to go to the kitchen now? Spice in your enchiladas?

I get some enchiladas are getting hard out there. All right, so now we have Cherie Deville. Hello. Now we're not going to turn on your microphone.

It's actually on. Okay. Well, welcome. Thank you.

Now you've been tweeting up a storm. You love Twitter. And you're also a girly girl porn star, is that right? Yes, all girl girl.

All girl girl. This is all girl girl all the time. I didn't make it this way. So nobody said jump crisp then?

I mean, come on. On my own. Well, all right. Well, you do have your wife here.

So, so you, how did you get into porn and promiscuity? Well, my husband and I have always been swingers. So we pick up girls all the time. So, I mean, I've been with women my whole life.

I get actually like seven times more women than men. I think I've been with four men and like 50 something. Really? Yeah, I almost never find a guy that I like.

Why is that? I have no idea. Like it's just chemistry. It's not looks, it's not anything.

It's just chemical, I guess. Yeah, you think? Does your husband have to approve of the guy? No, we're just with girls.

Yeah, whether I can watch. Oh, okay. So since you're married, you don't do guys. But I suppose maybe if once like someday I found another guy.

I don't know, but so far I'm 33 and there's only been four. Well, there's time. Okay. But he likes it when you're with girls because both guys do.

Yeah, why wouldn't a guy? Double your pleasure, double your fun. Some guys are threatened. Not every guy likes it, you know.

And guys have gotten on my case when I say that, you know, it's sort of standard. But it is standard. But, you know, there's nothing that everybody likes. We're so varied.

We're so diverse. So, moving right along, we have sex nerd Sandra. Hello. Hi for the on draw.

Let the odd just wash over you. Sandra Sandra Sandra and let me see if I can pronounce this last name dogerty. Doerty. Doerty.

Okay. Right. I'm glad we can call you sex nerd Sandra. That's easier.

Yeah, it rolls off the tongue. And you are a sex writer and blogger and a podcast. Yes. And you do talks about sex and you kind of experience it and teach people.

You're not a porn star. No, I'm not a porn star. I basically talk about sex as much as porn stars have sex. Like I just talk about sex all the time every day.

Thinking about it, analyzing it, drawing connections, realizing things. Yeah, so that's my life. Do you get off on talking about sex? Intellectually I do.

I love the feeling of my brain just being really alive and being like, but if this is the case and that's the case, then what about this? And just thinking about things. When I realized that all that erogenous tissue in the vaginal canal and surrounding it makes us tighter,

it's just like, oh my God, that's amazing. And then I got really turned on in the mind and then I probably got turned on a little bit later. Yeah, I mean, one leads to another. The mind is inside of the body, right?

So if you're getting brain gasms, it might connect to your feet and your elbows and you're pussy. You know, related to this, since our book came out about a year and a half ago, we've probably received about 25 emails from women saying they had to stop and masturbate every 10 or 15 pages. You know, I didn't send the email because I, yeah, right.

No, it's true. It's true. Women get very turned on by cerebral connections. It's amazing. I can't wait to read the book. Now, one of the things you say about women is something like we're plastic or we're pliant in our sexuality. We're more able to, like guys get more into fetishes.

And of course I'm generalizing, okay, we all have a feminine side. We all have a masculine side. But generally, there's more guys with fetishes and more gals that are kind of getting turned on by things we can't even identify. Right? Guys always know when they're turned on because, you know... The flagpole goes out.

Right. Now, what about exhibitionism and our ancestors? Because to some degree, all these ladies are exhibitionists. She shows off her sexual connections. So I do show off my brain all day. Pretty slutty that way.

Yeah. That's right. And they left, I mean, are you girls exhibitionists? I guess you enjoy porn and it's more than just, you know, it's a certain type of sex work. Okay. There's certain types where you don't get in front of everybody.

But porn, you're in front of everybody. Everybody. I mean, because it's all over the internet. You know, there used to be a time when you'd say, well, you know, if you're looking at it, then you must be into porn.

But now you just pass it. It just sent to you in the mail. And so all kinds of people can see you. Does that turn you on? I mean, I almost feel like that's a rhetorical question. But how does that turn you on?

Especially for me, especially at first, it's kind of like almost an adrenaline, like a voyeuristic fucking in the swingers club, knowing you're turning everyone else on is definitely a turn on for me. You feel powerful knowing you're turning other people on?

I think so. And feel hot. Like you're a goddess of fertility, you know. Knowing other people are watching you thinking it's hot makes me feel hot. Yeah. It's making me feel hot.

Oh, sorry. I'm just still overwhelmed with people listening to me. Like, you listen to me? Like, if I had sex in front of people, like, I think I'd pass out. Like, you're watching me. Like, I just couldn't even handle that.

Like, you guys are so powerful for being able to do that and handle that. Like, that's really cool. I think it's a little different for me. I love connecting with the person that I'm performing with.

And it doesn't really matter as soon as that happens, as soon as that connection is established, everything else disappears. And you're kind of along for the ride. Really. So you just get into the person, you know.

Completely. But you're also a penthouse pet. I mean, you're just modeling there. Right. That kind of thing is always a little bit more.

So there's the fans. There's the fans, you know. And you both have Twitter's, you've got your fans. I mean, are you just milking them or do you kind of get off on them? Well, I feel like it's almost like it's not enough of a connection

to get completely turned on. Where it's like, you know, you're separate. They can't touch you. They can't feel you. They can't connect. It can only go so far.

So you almost feel like it's a half ass turn on as far as being an exhibitionist. It's almost like. Yeah. But I'm glad you moved your hair aside just then.

Like that. Because, yeah, I do. Yeah, you were hiding your boobs. But you're so much bigger than me in every way.

I know. My boobs are high. Your boobies are what? Say hi. They're high. They're very big.

They're coming out to say hi. They are. They can come out and say hi. It's good to say the stripper pulls a little bit in the way, but like.

We can work it out. We can work it out. There we go. Danny will help out. That's beautiful.

Always good to get a helping hand from a friend. Sharing is caring. I'm in the wrong seat. What am I doing?

We stuck him over on the other seat. Would you like to be in the middle? Well, I didn't know. The middle seat is taken.

Well. So. What next? I know.

Your book talks about, speaking of exhibitionism and sound. The sound of a woman's orgasm

is an exhibitionist thing that even women that aren't porn stars often indulge in, which is just to make all these sounds

that, you know, guys are usually kind of stoic about orgasm. I mean, every once in a while they go. Totally.

But usually they're just kind of going. You know, and women are going. I mean, you know. It's a big release,

like when you come and you're able to make a couple of moans, the more I moan, the more released, the more satisfied I am.

And I always look at a guy sometimes and I'm like, how are you so quiet? How are you so quiet? Like you didn't make a sound.

You didn't make a peep. I barely knew you even came. What about you, Danny? I went, I recently, or last year I went

to Tokyo to work for a week and the male performers there have no expression whatsoever. At all.

And I was there with Lily LeBeau and her and I were discussing and the lady translator asked the male performers

to give some kind of reaction to satisfy us a little more because we'd be going to town and there's just, there's nothing.

You couldn't even tell. No. So stoic. What about in the Swinger world?

In terms of noise, yeah, it's the same thing. Guys don't make much noise at all. What about the nerd world?

Maybe nerds, guys are more in touch with them. The way I think about it, I think of like males, they kind of, when they orgasm,

they come inward and then everything shoots out their dicks. Whereas with females it's sort of, we're taking things in vaginally

and things come out our, like our sound comes out our mouth. So it's sort of like where the energy sort of escapes us

now let's hear the kind of anthropological interpretation of why women make so much more sound than men when they come.

Well, scientists call it female copulatory vocalization. Yeah. And there are graduate students

all over the world with directional microphones and jungles capturing the vocalizations of female primates

when they come, when they have sex. And it turns out that there's a lot of information in the noise that a female primate makes

when she's having sex. And interestingly, it's the primates that are promiscuous where the females

make the most noise. So that tells you something about our particular species. But males can,

people who are in people, other primates that hear this female being screwed can tell the status of the male

who's screwing her and also how close to ovulation she is. Yeah, you make different sounds

and some studies have been done on humans as well, but this is mostly other primates. I'm going back in my head

and I'm thinking about how I masturbate every day because sometimes I'm louder than others and I'm thinking maybe there is

a little routine going on because that's the only time that I'm really paying attention to the female.

It's like we're getting fucked by one guy and we're letting all the other guys know that we're hot that might hear or girls or

anybody in town. From a biological point of view what it does is it promotes what's called sperm competition

which means that if you're having sex with several different guys while you're ovulating their sperm competes.

And so the sperm that's the best match with you biologically is just sitting back like waiting to see who wins.

The ovum can reach out and chemically choose the sperm of the man that is the best match in terms of immunological

DNA. And also what your orgasm gives an advantage to the sperm of the man who made you

come because it changes the pH inside your vaginal canal. So I mean I don't need to take all the juiciness out of it

with the science talking. The nerd's getting off on it. Oh no no I think the porn stars are getting off on it.

To understand why chemically I love having sex with this guy as opposed to this guy you know it makes a lot of sense.

I tell guys that want to get their women hot. That want to get their wives who are busy with the kids and with

work and just putting off sex I tell them to read your book so that that'll turn the women on because hearing about this

is flowing. It kind of puts those connections those brain connections together that are in your body.

I don't know if it turns the guys on that are reading it. I mean guys like it but I don't know that they get a heart on

from reading Sex at Dawn. I got one from writing it I'll tell you. That's what you wrote it with.

It's hard to finish the damn thing. For another break. Both brains.

Yeah. You got to think with the book kind of addresses both brains. It's it's a turn on and it's

funny and of course you know laughter is a mental orgasm. So I have a question so did primates get louder around

ovulation time when they were most fertile. Generally it's louder around ovulation.

So because I mean a lot of like porn. Yes. That's part of the exhibition is

of a porn it's not just the bodies it's also the sound tracks very important that the screaming I mean guys need

that women need to hear that it's just a very important thing. Also you know male orgasm

tends to be more intense when the man holds his breath. So that's another reason men don't make noise when they're

breathing in and out. And you know kind of keep that I like that heavy breathing right.

You know what I found fascinating ahead. The guy about a year ago that showed me how to be like

choked properly not choked but not to cut off the breathing we cut off a little circulation just right.

Why is it the pretty girls like to get choked. I love. Doing it right.

It's just dangerous. I got a problem with it. I mean OK. Consensual.

Many things are dangerous in life. All in moderation. Well I mean you know you seem

like a professional you know what you're doing. One of my part time yobbs is I'm a consultant to the L.A.

Public Defender's Office. And every once in a while somebody accidentally gets killed.

And so they think it's a really a murder with extenuating torture. When it's done in the act of

sex. And I kind of have to explain that this is a sex act and that they didn't mean you know

the guy didn't mean to choose a guy with a woman he didn't mean to but he's an asshole so you know something to him.

But not not you know give him capital punishment. So anyway so I mean but hey people choke each other

and have great orgasms and I it's the point I mean at the point where your woman has died maybe you should take it

easy you know you should have that worked out. The problem is the safe word safe word or safe word.

Yeah come on. Well I feel like there's so much sexuality. Humans love to explore

and experience and I feel like if we just taught people how to communicate and taught just taught teenagers and

sex ed class just about just that yes we realize that half of you are going to stick things in your butt.

We realize this. Why don't you make sure it's flared at the bottom like just basics.

There needs to be more open dialogue. With teenagers with couples. Don't gag at the same time

you're choking. But some people do that you know. Then anyway yeah don't do that.

Okay well gosh you know I'm feeling very lonely on this bed. So I feel that as the hostess

with the most is I should offer the ritualistic drink here which I need my beautiful assistant.

Teja. Where is she. Okay she's going to help me out here.

So I think you know the only one who's ever been here before is you. And you did the Agua shots

right. Is that the green stuff. Yeah this is the green stuff. Tommy completely loopy.

This is our Agua Cocovif the Kerr. Of course there's Lily. Lily knows all about Agua

shots. All about the Agua shots. Yeah that's right. That's right.

Lily maybe could help with with somebody who hasn't experienced an Agua shot. So who wants one.

I'll take the giggle is a yes. Okay. And where's Teja. Where's.

Oh here you go. Look at you in gold. Oh my gosh. She looks great.

It's wintery. We're in our winter garb. She's like a Greek goddess. Yes beautiful.

Yeah. And so this is Agua Cocovif the Kerr made from the Cocoa leaf.

But it is not illegal. It is not cocaine. Although it is. We do have the salt right here

which is an important part of the process. Is that you sprinkle the salt on the body

part of perhaps someone nearby. Or you know I'm not going to you know this is all consensual.

So if you want to just lick your own body part that's okay. But you know it'd be friendlier to lick someone else's

body part. And titties are always a good bet. If you don't know which body

part to go for. My friends in the last movie are the scripting. Lily's offering hers already.

A tiny tiny bit. This is my function in life. Yeah. Lily's got.

She offers her titties on a platter. A brassier platter right here. Okay.

So who's going to start? Everybody's got their little salt shaker there.

Okay. So Lily Cade is a gold star lesbian speaking of girl girl.

And just to give a blow by blow for those of you who are listening on Radio Susie 1. Right now.

Jayden is sprinkling salt profusely all over Lily's tits. Really.

You're having a salt fest. I hope you like salt. The more salt the more licking.

It's great. This is lime salt. Is there enough salt for two? I did two on purpose on each

breast. Okay. Lily's offering her boobs like a goddess.

A boobage. Okay. So yeah. There we go.

They're really coming out. And they're natural. They're very lovely and maternal even though

she's a gold star lesbian. Yeah. Go for it. Okay.

The lick. Ready for the lick. Right now. Yeah.

There we go. And the photo op. I have a really great angle. It's really good.

Yeah. I'm learning. I have the best angle of course.

But that's my perk. She's going to put some salt on my boobies. There we go.

There we go. And so now Jayden's boobies are getting salted. And Lily and

two. And now Danny are licking up the slope of the titties

and going down to the nipples and there's a smile on her face. You know. Careful with that white top.

Yeah. Yeah. That white top could get lipstick on it. You might need to take that off.

There's definitely still some salt left guys. That's not clean. Sounds like you want to do some cleaning up of salt there.

I like watching the cleaning as well. You know maybe some of you should come up here and we can have some of the guests

who haven't gotten on microphone on a microphone. We have a mic up here too. So come on up here.

Come on up here. Do your do your drinking up on the bed.

Yeah. Everyone's friends. And we also have the book if you want to read.

Okay. So who's who's coming up to the mics who hasn't. Here you sit.

You sit in the center. Oh no. You want to sit next to Chris and tantalize him.

Okay. I mean tantalize from every direction. Oh yeah.

Here we go. Do we need to should I get up? Now where's the microphone?

Can we get the mic off of here please. Yeah. And now

oh where'd my everything is getting rearranged here now. And so

Lily Carter is now here standing before the big camera or sitting actually.

So Lily Carter you're an interesting surprise tonight. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Well I mean get close to your mic darlin.

Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. So yeah.

You came with with Sherry right? Is that good?

You come down from Oregon. Is that right? Yeah. I live in Oregon

but I shoot down here in LA. And you're also a porn star.

I wouldn't say I don't like the word What do you call yourself? I'm a porn chick.

Okay. Porn chick is one thing. Then there's porn

nerds actually Misty Dawn. You know Misty Dawn. She's a real porn

nerd. Yeah. Right. And she calls herself

she's such a porn nerd. She says prawn nerd. So

are you kind of a little nerdy or you're I'm a nerd

when I'm at home in Oregon what I do at the front is read.

You would think I'm like some whore but I stay home

and I read all day. Well whores read. So okay.

I actually don't have much sex when I go home I go home

and I save it all up for LA and then I have a blast and go back home.

Huh. That sounds a little hunter gathering

right there. Yeah. So you go out hunting for sex

and then you get a whole bunch of it and then you go home and read a lot.

Exactly. Sure. You got to keep the body in tune.

Yeah. And do you make a lot of vocalizations when you masturbate?

Ever since I started masturbating when I was 14 years old. Okay.

So look at all these beauties in the bed. Did you all do your salt?

Yeah. You did. Lily, you read the book, right?

Where's the microphone? Microphone. I did read the book. There it is.

You actually read the book. Yeah. So tell us what you

thought. Actually, I didn't read it. I listened to it

on an audio book because my wife is a member of Audible and I downloaded it.

Wow. So read is wrong, but, you know, I absorbed the book.

That counts. That counts. It's not because I'm a porn star

and can't read. Well, so what, give me a reaction.

Well, as someone who's been in a non-monogamous relationship for

six years and who's never actually had a monogamous

relationship, and as someone who has been irritated by a lot of

the crap coming out of the evolutionary psychology field, it was really refreshing.

All right. There you go. It's a, you know,

it's a departure from a lot of the things that are coming out of evolutionary psychology,

which is similar to what this book is, that is looking at the human past

or what we assume is the human past and comparing that to our lives now

and trying to do something about that. And most of the work that's coming out

of that field, Steven Pinker, etc., is all about how Helen Fisher,

who I love dearly so dearly. It's all about confirming every bias we have ever

and how they're all right. So like racism, it's inborn and

men are the way that men are because they should be powerful

and dominate women and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we have to go to war because war

is our birthright. And so I found this book really refreshing. Yeah.

And that we're monogamous so that women are choosy about sex. Right.

This whole idea that women only choose a guy that's going to be a good breadwinner.

I mean, women love to have sex with women. Women love to have sex with all kinds of guys

that aren't good breadwinners. Women love to have sex with themselves.

With anything. It's not like we're so focused. You know, I mean,

our parents probably wish we were. You know, I think that that's maybe what

is that why? Because our parents wish we were like that.

Well, our parents and the pope and the president. Yeah, that's like

our parents. Yeah. It's all very political. Yeah.

You know, telling us what we are, even though we know we aren't that thing

and then we spend our lives trying to live up to this false ideal, you know, it's all

very political. So what do you think is going on now? I mean,

is there a revolution going on? Is this like Weimar Berlin

or is this like what is going on with all these people, mostly women.

I mean, there's some guy porn stars, of course. There always are,

but there's a lot of women. Yeah. I think something really exciting is

happening in this country right now. We're at the end of a speaking tour

and the speaking tour was not arranged by our publisher. Our publisher

is out of the picture. No, publishers don't do that. The speaking tour was arranged by our readers.

Cool. Who got together in every city. Well, I'm a reader.

Right, exactly. I'm a reader, right. Like groups of readers got together,

raised money, rented venues, did advertising, arranged everything,

and all I had to do was show up and give my little PowerPoint presentation.

And like we had 600 people in Portland. Wow. Filled a theater.

Beautiful. They're sold out. San Francisco, 450 people

on a Wednesday night. Hmm. You know, people are really

ready for a new way to think about human sexuality

because they know that the way that we've been taught is bullshit.

You know, we all kind of see through it. And we're all seeing through it now somehow.

Well, I mean, Newt Gingrich is the less scandalous Republican

candidate right now. I mean, imagine that. Right. You know,

the guy who's been married three times and had affairs, you know,

dumped two wives while they were sick. Yeah. And he's the good guy.

Yeah. Well, then there's the Mormon, you know. And there's the

Mormons. I mean, it's, yeah. Yeah.

And of course, the one with the harem just dropped out of the race. But, yeah.

No, I've noticed a huge polyamorous community in the LA area. Like, I've noticed

it's, I had no idea. And it's like, oh my God. But it's all over the world.

I mean, it's not just America. Yeah. It's everywhere.

It's, I mean, as a therapist, I talk to people all over the world.

And in the Muslim world, they're also swinging. And, you know, they're doing it

under their sheets. You know, our book, our book is being translated

right now in Iran. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

People are risking prison to translate the book. Wow, that's exciting. It's fantastic.

Yeah. Yeah. So what's going on back here? So I was wondering if,

you know, we were talking about female vocalizations. And,

and I was just wondering if anyone wanted to do a vocalization of some sort. And I'm not talking about

Harry Met Sally type of vocalization. That's kind of fake. No.

But we have different toys. I'll make sounds. Each other.

You'll make sounds. If people make me make them. Okay.

Who wants to make Lily make a sound? I'll help her. They're all game.

Everyone's game. All right. Let's, let's make sounds.

All right. Here it goes. Lily, Lily's got

her tough girl outfit on. And now it's coming off.

I'm not going to take this all day off because I can't. Okay.

Her panties are coming off just in case panty boy is wondering. She's got those red panties

coming off. And now. Okay. So we're going to hear

your vocalizations here. Where's my lovely assistant? Okay.

Can you. Okay. We're going to hold the microphone

so that the vocalizations are audible. Yeah.

I think you, you want to, you want to take these off.

Too much trauma trouble. No, but this is, no, no, no.

You help her. You help her. Help her take those off because they're so clunky

and it's on my bed. I mean, this is, this is,

this is my food war. You don't wear your boots into my bed even if you are butch.

You know, look at those red panties. She's,

oh, these horrible socks. Yes. I have a client

who would love those. Oh my. Is that a bonobo between her legs?

Yes. Oh, there's, there's bonobos here. There's

gorillas. This is a Yale bonobo. Actually,

it's purple. Yeah. So, okay.

So we got rid of the boots. There we go. We got the clothes over there.

Don't steal Lily's clothes now. All right. So you,

you want to hold this now. Look at this. Now,

Lily is, is an amazing woman really.

Her, her wife is out in the audience right now. I don't know if she wants to be

identified. The orange-haired woman. Right. How you doing?

You okay? You want to get on a microphone? He's in my face. You want to talk?

What? Well, I mean, you know,

I'm just wondering if you would like to say something about seeing your lovely wife

being pleasured by all these beautiful women. Does it upset you?

I think it's awesome. I've never been a jealous person ever in my life.

I think they should take some clothes off though. That's good.

That's good. we're going to talk about jealousy in a second, but don't you think they

should take some clothes off too? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So soft. Hmm. Should we help you?

Maybe my assistant should help since she has the microphone. Help her take her

clothes off. Which one? Oh, oh,

she's got a lot to do. She's got putting the condom

on the Hitachi because the Hitachi is used so often. Can't take the Hitachi yet.

It's too strong. It's too strong. We have other vibrators. We have penthouse vibrators

and pocket rockets. But the hands are probably just as good. I like that it's

an Easter basket, like all these different toys. Oh,

you want to use the G-spot mode thing. Yeah,

that's kind of cool. There we go. Isn't it though? Well,

Sandra, do you have any ideas for what they're doing? Oh,

here we go. I think she figured it out. I think we're good. We're good.

Wow. Okay. That was a real vocalization right there.

Oh, God, yeah. Okay.

Getting hot in here. What I can see is just hands, so good work out there.

So, God, yeah. Yeah,

well, okay, here we go. She's certainly

getting taken care of. I got that when I was 18. And the pocket

rockets coming out. Was that a typical female vocalization? No,

I haven't heard enough to say what's typical. I mean,

in my experience, she's especially loud. That's why.

Vocalization. You gotta wait for the third orgasm. That's when she really gets loud.

All right. Very good. Let's hear it for sister Lily.

Woo. And of lovers. And the fine example of female vocalization.

I feel like she might be ovulating. Or, yeah.

It's possible. Are you? Lily, are you ovulating?

I have no idea. Is this 14 days after your first day of menstruating?

Oh, my God. Can we get a... She's busy. But,

you know, as a sex nerd, you probably know that women do all sorts of

things different when they're ovulating. They wear more perfume, more jewelry,

more likely to have unprotected sex, more likely to have sex with a stranger.

They get crazy. It's like our hormones are guiding us

very much so. I'm like, it's so lucky. Well,

now there's more activity here. Okay. So,

I've got Maruchen on the microphone now. Hello, Maruchen. Boys in the audience.

Boys in the audience. Enjoying the show. Yeah. But,

this is so fucking good. I couldn't be luckier. I'm enjoying the show. It's wonderful.

And, this is your first time on the show? You've been at the show.

Correct. This is the first time I'm on the show. It feels so good.

Wow. That's Danny there. She's getting pleasured now.

That little Betty Boop cartoon voice is now feeling good and using a pocket rocket.

I think we need a battery for the pocket rocket. Do you need a battery? Maybe not.

It's good. Oh, okay. Oh, very good. Okay.

Oh, here it goes. Danny, are you girls all meeting each other

for the first time tonight? I think so. Oh, my God. I mean,

so much for the whole idea of women wanting to get to know you before having sex.

You know, isn't that conventional wisdom? You know,

the guys are the ones that just want to jump in. Oh, no. But women just

don't do that because I think because we don't want to be called sluts

or some of us don't want to be. And so we hold back. But if we don't mind,

then, hey. There's some research that just came out

showing that women who feel safe and who expect

the guy to be good in bed or expect to have a good time are just as interested in casual sex

as men are. Yeah. So the problem is the feeling of safety

and that he's going to actually be good in bed. If they think it's, you know,

it could be risky and he's going to come in three minutes. Right, right.

They're not interested. Well, guys have to perform. Whoa, look at this nice little butt

right in front of me. Very nice. Okay. So the womb room is

is breaking out into communal ecstasy right now, just in case you're listening.

I mean, at least there is some communal ecstasy going on in my bed.

And then we have the onlookers. Oh, oh,

oh, wow. Who is this? That's a female

representation up there. Now, who was that? Was that Danny?

That was Lily. That was Lily. Lily wasn't coming. Oh, no,

maybe she was. Oh, yes, she was. I didn't realize she was getting, she was getting,

this is like a daisy change. She's going to come behind. Yeah, this is a definite team effort. This is.

Yes. Right. Have you seen a radio show like this before?

No, no, mine is not like this at all. Well,

ours is not always like this. I mean, Christopher was here on it. Nothing happened last time

I was here. You kept it real tame. I did. Well,

now I figure you're ready to graduate. Thank you. You know,

this is the advanced level. right. And your wife is here. So I thought we,

you know, go to the advanced levels with her here. Thank you.

Yeah. You having a good time, Cassilda? Can you get on the mic

just later? Say, just say definitely. I just want to hear her

beautiful voice saying. Oh, definitely. Oh,

thank you. Good. Whoa, ladies.

Red hair. Lots of lots of red hair. I'm glad I changed my color tonight.

You know, I think the theme is female vocalizations. That sounded real.

Oh, I see the Hitachi. This is a field survey. That sounded real.

It changes lives. I'm just holding my breath. Oh, that was fun.

I love it. How many times have you made her come in a night? Oh my God.

There have been times I've lost count. I've been like, okay,

let me see how many I can get in a night. That's how I am. I've never had

been in a jungle. It sounds a little jumpy. About four thousand six is what she really gets in a groove.

Yeah, and then she just keeps coming, right? Yeah.

That's like me. Pooba wants to do a scene with me. Let me ask you, Lily's wife.

Lily's wife. Lily's wife. What's your name again? Sten.

Sten. Does she have sex like this with you? Oh,

yeah. Wow. And do you like the group thing

or do you like to just be with her and watch the group thing? I'm pickier

than she is about partners. I like it to be somebody that I know,

but when we get people that we like together, then yeah, we've had group sex

on numerous occasions. Oh, yeah. Group sex is getting to be really just,

you know, it's like going bowling, you know, I mean. When we got married

we threw a lesbian bachelorette orgy. You can't talk unless you're on a microphone.

She wants me to teach her how to squirt. That's right. We were talking about that.

Seven minutes. Okay. Good luck. These are tight.

I think she's ripped. So, whoa. I love the clothing negotiation.

That's really the hardest part is just getting naked in an elegant fashion. I don't think there's

a way to do it. Right now. Yeah, just tearing clothes off

right now. Very elegant. That's really the hardest thing.

I think it's going on very elegantly with the sex at dawn books.

Yeah. Careful about that. She just licked a book. I love it.

She licked a book. She did. She's like having sex with a book.

That book is now inscribed. Wow. I love girls who like books.

I love the panties. Okay. The panties are going everywhere.

Wow. All these girls are just all into each other.

I mean, this is very much like, of course, bonobo

emails. Gigi rubbing. Yes. Gigi rubbing

and just everything. That's a lot more difficult with human women. Hey, do you guys

know how to do tribadism? You know, like, tripping?

Tripping. Of course you do. Tripping. You don't like to do

tripping so much, or do you? We were just talking about it.

You could give it an example. Give us an example. It's fun to watch.

It's one of the things I only do important. Right. Right, right, right.

I normally don't do that. That's not true. We've done it when we were drunk a couple of times.

Attempts. Why aren't you a fan of tripping? It's really,

really difficult. It's just like, it's too much like, are you in the right

angle? It's like, if we had enormous genital swellings,

maybe that would make it easier, but... You know,

yeah, you've got a... There's too much trigonometry involved.

Right now I know you mean it. Have you tried tripping? Yes,

and it's right. It's all angles. It's where there's a lot of geometry

in your brain going on. Like, okay, I know where the anatomy is. If I angle this way,

I might hit birds. Oh god, my hip hurts. Okay.

If you get to the point where like basically anything will get her off,

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we got to get back into microphones, everybody. We are back.

Sure. You can lean on you want. All right.

Take the mic away from you. Okay. There's a mild fisting

going on over here. Yes. We've got fisting. Wow.

Yeah. Oh, jeez. Okay. I got to sit somewhere

here. Okay. Lily Kate is a force of nature.

Wow. Yes, she is. Yeah. So.

All right. And so we do have fisting. We have fisting of Sherri now

and I said don't let her have a microphone but she's talking beyond the

microphone. Okay. Beautiful. Let's give a hand

for sister Sherri and Danny and Lily.

Beautiful. Beautiful ladies. Yeah. So beautiful.

So much sex. So much pussy. All right. So,

here we are. We just got a few more minutes.

So, how you all doing? Awesome. You kind of switched up

my view. I was on the bed there with the ladies and that was fun

but I kind of like this view as well. You do. You're also a lawyer.

I am. I am. It's weird. It's funny how you

discovered new things about your sexuality when you start writing a

book about sex when you're doing podcasts about sex or having sex on camera

you learn things about your own sexuality that you didn't even know.

What are you learning tonight? All the great angles of these

new ladies and who I'm going to put on my future to-do list. And don't forget

your to-read list. Of course. Or audio book. Right.

I kind of like the old school having a bookshelf and being

able to fill up a bookshelf or something about having a book

that I just haven't lost. I'm not falling really

into the whole e-books. I understand the convenience

when you're going into town but I love to have a full

bookshelf with books. The old fashioned books.

Exactly. When you start piling them on the ground like when you have

knee-high piles of sex books on the ground it's like okay maybe I should audio

books as well. You know it sounds like the dirty talk

book on the big butt book and there's the guy to getting it on

and you're like oh I have a lot of books. I'm really

poor. My old shelves do this. Yeah they start

buckling. So I understand you're single now. Me?

Yeah. Oh you did you've learned things from my

blog huh? I am. I am. Hello.

So how long have you been single? About two and a half months.

Yeah out of a monogamous relationship. Yeah so.

Like a male or a female? With a male. Okay.

Are you bi or hetero or? I am

I don't discriminate. Right. You know I'm an equal opportunity

person. You know. And there's more of that now

nowadays right? And mostly with women. I mean it is with

guys too but the guys don't want to admit to it. I think

I'll admit to it. Sexuality. Is it admitting to it now?

Marugan? Yeah. You're bisexual. No.

I approve of everyone's choices in life because it's

their life and they should live it the way they want to. And whether it's

love or just a sexual chemistry those kinds of chemistry doesn't

have boundaries like looks. I mean physically

you know sometimes I've been into so many different women and

guys and people. It's just there's no age and

race and all that stuff just disappears. A sexual connection

is something you can't explain. You never know. Are you going to meet?

Yeah well I don't think it is in our genetic code

to be racist. I know. Yeah exactly. No not really.

Not really. I mean or sexist or whatever.

I mean societies and thought societies and it hasn't been

over color that's for sure. Yeah. I just have to say I think I'm having

a wet dream this very moment here. Yeah. Everyone's

in the bed. Oh look at this. Oh that's so cute. I am living

every writer's dreams. This is the post sex post.

Where's the book? All the ladies are on the bed. They're all naked women

on the bed reading our book. reading your book. Isn't that a

beautiful thing? It's unbelievable. That's great.

This should be up in the library. That is. Richard Dawkins should

have it this good. Ah. She's pointing. I'm going to tell you

Stephen Pinker has never seen his book in this context. That alone

Helen Fisher. Wow. That is a photo up right there.

I just wanted to say when we finished your book we went home

and had a really hot sex. Beautiful. Thank you.

I can't wait to read this book. Thank you. Did you

read it first? Yeah I read it first. She had

heard the beginning of it but she just finished it

actually like last week. Amazing. We get

such amazing emails from people. There's a couple in Idaho

who they're young they've got a couple kids

they're in their 30s they were divorced and independently different friends gave

each of them the book they read the book and said oh shit what did we do

and they got back together and they're remarried. Oh my god. That's awesome.

They remarried because they just reframed the whole thing like somebody had

an affair or whatever and it just became like not that big a deal anymore

and what are we doing? Well that is interesting that your book can actually help people

to stay together because it points out that

you know it's not anybody's fault if you don't keep

the lust you know burning at high levels

you know for 30 years and with just one person that this is

not really part of our natural ability. That's

a Dan Savage point Dan Savage makes that point often

that it's essentially a conservative message you know to be more compassionate

and tolerant and flexible about what goes on

in a relationship preserves the relationship. The open and honest

part of a relationship is what makes the difference between

you know sort of typical sort of what

we're raised to believe the Republican sort of views it's sort of

a pathway to destruction in the relationship because there's a lot

you're hiding and holding back and you're not don't have that open dialogue

for health reasons and other reasons you need to have that open dialogue

and that just makes the connection stronger I don't feel like it's

ever takes away from a relationship I feel like you're just being

truly unveiled and open and honest and if it is destructive

that's a relationship that isn't built to last anyway so better

to get that out you know be who you are and that's

if you're building a relationship on a false idea of who you are

then you know come on what are you going to wait till you have a few kids

to figure out what's really going on and most people do it's funny you see the flaws

and most people do but well most people are so afraid of being

judged badly we really want to be liked and so

you know we don't want to talk about all these things

because it's really risky it's scary that's why I often suggest

when people have something they really want to talk about that they don't

bring it up that they just find a book literally and say

oh look at what that you know isn't that interesting and so it's like it's not really you

at least at first but then if the person says oh yes it is interesting then you can say

well you know I fantasized about that actually and then go from there

so sex at dawn or actually gazillion books

are out there and just articles online Sandra's blog you know

you can just point to that and you can just blame that author or blogger

or for you know having those opinions what's the ur url of

Sandra's blog I'd like to check it out I mean sex nerd Sandra you can just

search for it on iTunes but it's under the Nerdist label so you can go to Nerdist.com

and check it under podcast there is a show we did called stress relief

where I had a couple come on and they had been

experimenting with an open relationship and the strongest thing was to have a monogamous

relationship with open communication and they were

and they started there and to actually be able to say like I'm feeling attracted

to this person or I feel this I mean that was the first step for them

and it was it actually saved a marriage of a fan who listens a lot

so well really I mean that's one way to make monogamy

work is just through fantasy you know you just confess

you know I was fantasizing about your well you might not want to say your sister

you have to pick unless you're talking to a guy you know well

okay right right you could do it that way but I mean sometimes

you do have to be careful of people's feelings I mean is jealousy

natural what we say in the book is that jealousy is natural in as much

as it's an expression of insecurity and fear of losing

something important to you in that sense it's natural

but as an expression of obsession over someone else's

sex life that's not natural that's a culturally defined expression

of that fear because our ancestors you know they were in these small groups

of anywhere from 20 to 100 people not these big cities where you could

lose someone I mean just because someone has sex with someone doesn't

mean you're going to lose them because you're in this small group you know they'll

probably get bored with that other person pretty quickly and come back to you

yeah but in a big city you know if someone has sex with someone

else it's frightening because they could go off to France you know

and forget about you or change careers or you know just you know

the insecurity is real yeah and we live in this

zero sum world where my loss is someone else's

gain and vice versa and you know when you imagine

the world in which our ancestors live socially it was a world of

plentitude yeah and that brings up a point that you make in the book

which is since we know that a mother can share her love amongst several children

and we never question that why do we question why a person couldn't share

their love amongst several lovers how come I mean a mother's love

is the most important thing you know so how can she divide her love and yeah I mean

kids sometimes suffer from having having several kids that they've got it

you know several siblings they've got to share the love with but a kid that's an only child

also suffers you know I think you bring up a very interesting point

sort of in the sense that we grow up with one mother

and if we're lucky one father whereas our ancestors grew up

with many mothers and many fathers well there you go right

so the idea that you're dependent on one person for everything is built into us

it starts at the very beginning whereas in the societies of our ancestors pre-agricultural ancestors

they didn't have that sense that they only had one mother and one father who provided for them

and if they were abandoned by that those people then they were lost there were many adults

who were taking care of them and still Casota says in Africa it's still the same way

where she grew up you know women breastfeed one another's kids you know

it's normal it's no big deal well I think that's coming back I mean

I think that groups of women are having sex and building communities

and going into business together and sharing the raising of children and guys are handling it I guess I mean how are the guys handling it

well there's something in it for the guys sex just like the bonobo world

why do the guys put up with the females getting the first dibs on the food and kind of bossing everybody around

well because the guys get laid all the time you know so guys like that you know

don't they I think they do yeah guys do like that but

I don't know guys seem to maybe have a little trouble

I don't know I mean I think for the most part they love this revolution of women's sexuality

but maybe some are scared of losing their power I don't think any are in this room right now I'd like to think that it's a revolution

like the sexual revolution going on is for males and females that it's not just women but that males can be liberated as well

well yeah they're liberated to be feminine I get like the sense of sort of

almost excitement or like they can relax like when a guy finds out that like

if a guy is dating me and I want to hook up with a girl or whether he's involved or not I see some sort of

like like some sort of relaxing sigh of like

okay she's open sexually this is awesome you know what I mean so

just kind of opens the dialogue for do they not expect you to be open yeah sometimes sometimes when you talk

like okay no I really I like this girl

I want to bring her in or I want to be with her or I'm going to probably be with her

whether you're there or not and they kind of read the sigh of relief because then there's that

open dialogue of of them talking about what they're attracted to or what they're into

or what they're not into right there's a lot more open dialogue and it's a lot

more freeing right yeah just at 26

and only being in the industry for two years that's kind of what I've figured out

learned as I go so do you have guys in your life I have

well I wouldn't say monogamous but I have sort of meant that I've seen

over the past two years but it's all been pretty like you know

you just establish your connections I've never really been too promiscuous

with men or comfortable being promiscuous with men I feel a lot more comfortable

women have a more grasp on it I think men it's rare to find

man that I don't know gets my gears grinding

I guess more so than women that's a nice thing about lesbian

relationships whether you're a lesbian or not is that you don't

have to deal with all that gender bullshit you don't have like

roles prescribed to you you can just make it up as you go it's rare to find

for me to find a guy that doesn't have that role bullshit

that's sort of insecure masculine I need to be this certain way

you need to only see me and I'm the only man that is why

it's rare for me to find a guy that I can really click with sexually

you have to drop the insecurity what does the naked lady think

I lost my clothes it's always good to have a naked lady on a show

yeah very nice so you you lost him

you don't know where it could be anywhere okay well lost in the gorilla

now I know that Marugan is going to do a finale

of an act is that right one of which what would you like

you have to get on one of the mics somewhere here because I can't hear you

well what would you like to see tonight see would you like

to see some mind and matter mind over matter mind over matter

yes I don't know I guess so would you like

to see that yeah okay and also too I would like

to reenact my avn nomination award this year alright

of the most outrageous sex act the most outrageous sex act

now this is this is what we want to see yes

okay so is this so you're going to do

something first you're going to do something mind over matter okay let's do that first

and then we want to give you one minute to grab my stuff okay grab it

grab your stuff I thought it was right between your legs okay never mind

the suspense is building what's the most outrageous sex act I don't know

I think it's probably pretty outrageous you know I mean

Marugan is full of surprises if he can impress this panel

like jeez yeah exactly especially kind of by himself

I don't see any monkeys or you know not so far

he might he might need a volunteer I'm not sure

we got a naked lady right here well we do we do have a naked lady

so don't put your clothes on just in case like a panel full of lesbians panel full of lesbians

and Chris right exactly yeah

okay so so Lily is also almost naked lady

back there right I'm excited that you guys read sex at dawn together and had sex

after did you have it at dawn or till dawn no

it was like three three in the morning okay alright

and did you feel like you were you know our ancestors

well it was it was this thing they talk about it in the book where women are kind of

turned on by anything and so just the fact that we were

listening to a book about sex made us want to go do it alright

women can be stimulated so many other random ways than men can

men are pretty basic and straightforward and it seems like don't edit porn

because editing porn will make it really hard

for you to get to to live oh you mean you're desensitizing yourself

yeah you feel like watching porn is oh I'm gonna watch

this same shot of like some fingers going in and I'm gonna try to

sinkage this other shot that doesn't actually match and the sound is wrong

yeah don't edit porn suddenly it's working okay do you think porn

is generally desensitizing people yeah in general in general

I mean even writing about sex there's a there's a sense in which

I'm just like not tonight but in general I'm sort of like

just sick of talking about sex you know yeah enough you know

I'm gonna write another book about something that's not but I have to say

this is the best radio interview I've ever done I've done a lot of them but this is

this takes the cake right here you gotta tweet that now you know I wish

beautiful women would lose their clothes in every radio interview yeah it does make it

you know kind of I'd be out on the road more I'll tell you in every radio interview

I do yeah you do I mean I don't know if you do it on all the

radio interviews you do but you do it here that's for sure okay so we're

we're getting ready for this wild sex act yeah okay oh no we're doing mind over

matter yes we are ready okay so here we go so do you need a microphone do you need to speak

sure okay so what I'm about to show everybody is

over 34 years of transcendental meditation I've studied

transcendental meditation all my life learned to actually control my body

to refocus pain repair my body self healing rapid self healing

I'm gonna show everybody a demonstration of that but this isn't to gross you out

it's actually to show you just how strong the mind is we only use

10% of our brains you know and so I'm showing hopefully I'm showing

you something it's a little extreme but it kind of proves the point

what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take this sharpened piece of metal rod

that I have right here in my hand it's got a handle bent on one end

and there's a sharpened one on the other and I'm gonna poke it from one side

of my body right out the other without pain and without bleeding

did our ancestors do this? not intentionally I am Native American and they did a thing

called Sundance oh the Sundance I have been to the Sundance yes they would actually

pierce their nipples and then dance in the sun and tighten up the ropes

and tighten them up so tight that it would finally pull it right out

of their nipples wow yes it was ceremonial right I just saw a movie

about that a man called horse right they get pulled out

into the tree of life by different areas in their body yeah it's pretty

sort of like suspension yeah hardcore alright everyone's having

a look at the metal thing another area we know it's metal well there it is

yep okay here we go Marugan

the Magnificent is going to now stick himself oh

it's a pain not feeling pain at this point

I'm putting myself in almost a state of an intransmit

I'm looking at his face because I just love the lack of reaction

wow just moving his bicep around I thought the lack of

reaction now was a problem halfway through a pin through his arm

he is not only going through the skin but actually going to

the center of my bicep if you're just listening on radio oh my god

now he's sticking all the way through his arm ah

wow wow wow bravo

no blood wow Jaiden really seems to be turned on by this

does that affect your weight lifting ability no it doesn't at all as a matter of fact

the weight lift just fine with it in my arm Danny is holding

her mouth as if she's afraid she might up choke what is going on

how do you feel about this Sandra I feel emotions yeah I know

I don't know either things she's cool because she's okay

because she's sweating yeah she's a doctor she's going to lower

my heart rate lower my blood pressure so when I remove this

it's not going to bleed it's sterile it's sterile good because I don't

want you to bleed all over my bedspread squirting is one thing it's not even lubed

I believe it because it might ever matter stuff is cool

okay okay wow pull it out

now lean be careful we're not in short

for this okay that's here for Brother Marugan

wow everyone has their talents you know it's

exactly true okay so now now hopefully just volunteer

I want to re-enact what I did for the movie called

Enter the Peep Show by Club Jenna Spice Channel I did

the most death-defying sex act ever attempted on any stage if we got any volunteers

who would like to give me a blow job while I swallow swords with a condom?

with a condom on the sword no I know where the swords have been I'm tested

so I've got a current test so do we have any volunteers?

I know where they've been and I still don't want to put it in my mouth she knows where the swords have been

so it happens we have a lot of girl girls oh we have a volunteer

oh a volunteer okay but I'm even going to

bust that at one point here I'm going to actually do multiples this time

alright okay hold the mic okay here we go this is

you know the most dangerous sex act or the most outrageous or the craziest

some guys will do anything for a blow job exactly it's like

this is his he's got some talent it's a beautiful sword and he's got a girl

to suck his cock right away you know guys

when you want to know how to get a woman to suck your cock

all you have to do is learn to swallow a sword and you'll find a woman to swallow a sword

hey maybe all me makes some noises too some of them might be gagging

but you will hear some noise out of me tonight yeah

okay so now Marugin the Magnificent

is removing his Magnificent sword

he's now going he's got a problem with the wardrobe malfunction

I think back here fabulous pants okay

are we set alright alright put it on for me

trying to figure out who's putting the condom on yeah okay

so now Johnny Lynch is on one knee and Marugin is holding his

swords the metal ones while his sword is sheathed and the other sword

between his legs has been sheathed is being sheathed or it's unsheathed

what is it oh it's being sheathed right okay I don't have as good a view

as you guys okay so you need to help me with the the play by play

because you're right in front of it so now we're sheathed

the sticks getting pretty hard everyone watched Johnny's beautiful lips it is really beautiful

oh my god she's got some great deas sticks like lips

I love it so lips right here I'm getting the profile view

it's pretty amazing oh yeah she's already ripped off her throat

so she can take the whole thing she's very good I love that now

ooh it's so hard okay so we've got

we've got some stuff going on already here we've got some some fallatio

and so far it's pretty normal

Johnny says the trick is lots and lots of saliva and Johnny's doing

a great job with that and booze and booze for you to drink it

not him right yeah right

you don't want to booze cock bam okay is the cock talking

that's pretty good that doesn't happen often it's getting bigger it is

yeah she is very good you know an oral girl okay

and oh there she goes she licks the balls

give the balls a little love that's cool I'm almost in the mood to swallow

yeah she's got spits there are you just going to hold the sword? or I mean

I'm actually you just which is just a point to get your dick sucked alright thanks

the sword hasn't gone anywhere busted I'm going to try to drop this one

this one's almost what 25-26 well here we go okay

alright that's alright that's that's eight that's three times the amount girls

if you're lucky sucking an eight inch dick right three times the amount feeling a little

wow this is a very well hung sword you got here 27 inches

lick it before you stick it you got stuck lick it before you stick it yeah lubrication is very important for sword swallowing

and palatia water over there that's kind of important there you go

wow you do good girl she's still going she's still going

he's working on his throat loop she's doing a good job she's doing a good job same time alright

you go balls and I'll try to go as far as I can alright alright now I've got a good view yeah

good job see doctors who see us and that's a great view yeah it's a very good view

he's blocking my view of you but that's okay oh no now I've got a view of it whoa lubricant is swallowing a sword

as Donny swallows completely she kind of pulled away from the dick and he said

oh no wow finale you're so angry

okay oh my god there's more no we don't have three more to ask these are heavy swords

I expect you at least to go balls we need three more to hang with me as long as I can alright I got

I got three times the amount now it's teamwork now it's teamwork

now it's an orgy did his dick change when he swallowed the sword I want to hear from Johnny just did the dick stayed the same

the dick was I think it was this I mean yeah it got harder

woo this time you got to keep it in your throat the whole time that's a good hope

okay here we go don't fuck with me he has four swords or is it three

it's four it's four it's four four swords and they're heavy

27 inch four swords oh yeah she looks like she's got about four swords

she pulled out first she did tap out first but you know what I don't

I feel wonderful Coxer thinking about swords wait I didn't come yet that's for the after party

well that's the after party yeah definitely that's good yeah alright let's hear it for brother

Marugan and sister Johnny you know you're old when you pull stuff out and you see spiderwebs on it the greatest act of deep throating ever

wow that's Johnny's tip that kind of spits that kind of spits

oh yeah oh yeah I like the equitability at work here wow

I did enjoy that that was better than I expected good I really like that

that was very good I didn't bleed on your stage no you didn't bleed at all I mean actually the stick in the arm thing

I had to go mmm but the sword swallowing and the dick sucking I really

you can do that again another time sure come back and let me

I'll do all sorts of other stuff next time too alright can I just say that life is full of surprises

you know wow and this show is like a circus sometimes to media erotica

that's what we call it here called media erotica and we're just about out of time we are out of time

so we gotta go around real fast and tell our audience where we can be found so I'll let you start

since you were last and since you know you might get a sore throat later I'm sorry

okay where do we find you where do we see you where do we pay you money or suck your cock

or what can we do for you you can go to marugan.com to find me I'm also on Facebook

you might be seeing me here very soon on a major network because we're shooting the pilots for a circus based show

wow yes are you gonna do this act on that I'm going to swallow a car axle

oh a model a car axle on the show only one other person

in the entire world does it I expect to be number two will someone be sucking your dick at the time I'm the only man

only on my show today I'm also the only man in the world to swallow a rocket powered sword for Ripley's believe it or not

well we're proud of you thank you we're proud to have you on here yes

I got one right over in the case I'll be glad to help you all right so

sex nerd Sandra yes Sandra with an A at sexnerdsondra.com you can their links to my

podcast that's free on iTunes and on follow me on Twitter well we can't wait to hear what you you know what you say about being on the show

that will definitely have to come up in a a future broadcast definitely and Sherry

all I have is Sherry Deville Facebook all you have you don't even have any clothes I know

I have no website okay and Miss Danny um

you can expect to see Danny Jensen.com online in the next three, two, five months and also until then you can find me on

Twitter X Danny X Jensen X okay you can find me at clubjaden.com

or Twitter slash Jaden Cole and then we're actually I'm starting a podcast tomorrow night it premieres actually

at the Death Squad Network deathsquad.tv Death Squad that's their comedy thing

it's kind of like Nerdist where we're gonna be the sexual part right it's like the corpsy thing

right right yeah yeah yeah um you can find I don't know where my darling wife is

or who she's fucking right now but you can find her at lilicade.com okay

and are we missing anyone else that was on sex well I know

I'm saving them for last actually I think Johnny Lynch should say goodbye get on a microphone tell us where we find you Johnny

because you did such a a bang-up job or bang bang

bang mouth job I want to be near by the tits so I'm just gonna be over here but hi yeah I'm Johnny Lynch and

you can find me I just started my website at JohnnyLynchIsFat.com so J-O-N-N-I-L-Y-N-C-H is fat because that's what I have

yay with some amazingly perfect lip and good cocksucker there yes from all that smoking

alright and now sexadon.com we're gonna find you at sexadon.com that's all

New York Times bestselling book let's get it on some other bestseller lists everybody should pass it around and it's out in paperback now

it wasn't out in paperback before right it's come out in paperback in July yeah okay yeah just got some new ones yeah

and they changed the subtitle yeah we've we're working on the next book sort of we've cashed the check

so I guess we have to that means the work must begin yeah yeah no the next book's not about sex per se

it's but it's about the conflict points between the animal we've evolved to be

and what society demands of us it's tentatively called civilized to death ooh

it's gonna be fun to read yes yes very very good well sexadon you know sets the stage for that

yes the root of all evil is farming anyway more later property property right right right

property okay well my darling listeners and viewers I want to thank you I want to also thank my whole staff

and my assistant and Teja my producer actually and of course Max let's hear it for Max Prince Max

and Nori's standing over him Max is yeah we need a little more I think hey Max

Max is battling the big C right now and he's a strong he's as strong as an ox because

I mean he's on chemo right now and he's still doing the show and you know yeah oh the fire look at this

we toast and marshmallows oh my god okay well so with this grand fiery finale

I want to thank you my darling listeners or viewers for having us in your

home your mansion on a hill your cardboard box or perhaps your tent although if you're from Occupy LA

your tent has been taken down by the LAPD so Occupy LA and Occupy Philly were both

evacuated busted on the same night and wow

the fire is burning and the Occupy movement will not be extinguished it's true you can't extinguish it

it's a blazing blazing force of humanity that is is very much related to

some of the themes we're talking about tonight the group yeah yeah okay

and we're eating marshmallows he's now breathing fire Marugan breathing fire what a grand finale

whoa yay okay alrighty

alrighty okay one more time and then whoa

yeah okay if you play with fire just take precautions

use safe words whatever you need make like bonobos not baboons nothing against baboons

but yeah okay is he reading the book you should have him reading okay here we go

yeah make like bonobos not baboons make love not war okay make love to someone you love tonight

even if that someone is you I love you say you love them go to the camera turn the camera say I love you

I love you come on I love you I love you I love you

okay yay okay party time short party short very short

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