50 Shades! The Musical

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voyeurs and connoisseurs, actors and audience, doms and subs, 50 shades of everybody. All you children of sex, and yes, we are all children of sex. Oh yes, we are directors and producers, dancers, the actors on the stage of life. Yes, this is a show about sex.

Human sexuality and all its glory, danger, fun and foolishness. That's right, brothers and sisters. And if you listen to me regularly, well you know that I enjoy reading erotica. I love erotica, from the song of Solomon's in the Bible to the nasty tales of

Cleese Press anthologies, especially those edited by our friend Rachel Kramer Bustle and Char. Yeah, I do love that, but I have to say, you know, I could not get through 50 shades of gray. Couldn't read the whole thing. I mean, well, yeah, the writing, a little difficult.

I mean, I don't make love, I fuck. How hackneyed can you get? Well, hackneyed enough to sell over 100 million copies, that's how hackneyed. And hackneyed enough to become like the catalyst to a horny housewife revolution.

A horny housewife sexual revolution. So many women all over the world getting turned on to this book. It's a phenomenon. And actually, this is not the book.

I should say. This is the program from 50 Shades the Musical, which I just saw last night. And as badly written as the book is, that's how fantastic 50 Shades the Musical is. And if you like the book, well, more power to you.

And you will find a lot of power, empowerment through this musical. I mean, you got to laugh at yourself. Laughter is a mental orgasm. And this does keep you laughing.

So we are going to have some of the stars of the musical here tonight in a little while, although it's just ending. And they're over at the Kirk Douglas Theatre in Culver City right now. So I think we have the writer, producer on the line, do we? Hi, Dr. Susan.

We do. Is this Emily? This is Emily. Thanks so much for having us and for coming to the show.

I really had a wonderful time and, you know, I wasn't sure what to expect. I mean, I'm not one of those big fans of the book, but it goes way beyond that. And it is a parody after all. So actually, it's really for those of us who couldn't get through the book.

Well, you know, when we started writing it, I should say that I'm not the sole writer. There are a couple of writers on this. And I had not picked up the book. I only read it midway through writing it.

We didn't want to keep it so inside that if you weren't a fan of the book, you know, a lot of men have not read this book. You wouldn't be lost if you hadn't read it. So we kind of went at it like a loose interpretation of the book.

Very loose and fun. And yeah, maybe I think like a man when it comes to erotica. I don't know. Or I'm not sure.

I'm trying to figure it out because this is a huge phenomenon, 50 Shades. So many women have gotten so turned on to this. But I did have, I do have to say, you know, I tried to read it several times just because I'm thinking, hey, it's a huge hit.

I got to read it. And then I couldn't. And then I knew I was going to have your cast on the show. So I got to read it and it was.

But I'll tell you coming to the musical, seeing this parody, hearing the beautiful voices just making such perfect fun of all these lines. It was like an orgasm and worth so much. You know, it was like I just endured the book in order to enjoy the musical because

I mean, yeah, I think you don't need to have read the book because I was there with a couple of people, Trixie and Mercy and loser who didn't read the book. And they loved it. They all loved it.

But I must say I got particular joy out of seeing some of the most hackneyed lines like, I don't make love. I fuck. Oh, but you guys made it into a mantra.

You know, it was just, you know, it was just like, I don't know, just an anthem or something, you know, really. Yeah, he owns that song. That's like that is intermission.

And I have to say like happened the night you were there, but he, they're often panties sitting the stage at that point. Oh. And as you may recall.

No, I didn't see panties thrown on the stage. Yeah, our Christian is our own interpretation of what we think is the hottest thing ever. And we're real happy about that.

But sometimes the audience doesn't always agree. But by intermission, boy, they love that guy. That's right. Well, you know, yeah, I don't want to give away your little Christian

gray surprise, so to speak, but it is a surprise. Christian Gray is presented in 50 Shades of Gray, the book as just the perfect guy, of course, except for his little kinky sadists, a district streak, but, you know, billionaire, great looking,

just perfect. The way he moves knows everything you're thinking. Yeah. And he's like in his mid 20s and you read it, you're like, come on.

Right. Amazing. And it's unbelievable. And well, your guy, let me just say he brings him to life because

Yes, he does. The ideal is the enemy of the real. And your guy is very real Christian Gray. And a brilliant performer and singer and just, you know, hilarious,

hilarious. I mean, sex is great, but music is the food of love and laughter is a mental orgasm. That's true.

You know? So what drew you to this book, 50 Shades of Gray? Well, my background is definitely in comedy and anytime there's a phenomenon like this, be it an election year or just something

where it seems like it's just the culture is buzzing about it, it's always ripe for comedy because even if you know nothing about the book, you kind of know everything about it because there's always a news story.

There's always some blog about the book. Now it's like you can't get away from press about the movie. I mean, I can't think of a movie that's gotten this much besides Star Wars, you know, when they rebooted all the Star Wars

series. And I'm like, who cares about casting? But people care years in advance on this movie. So you were paying attention and you saw this, this, this

book is getting a lot of attention. It is, it is selling and selling. And so many people, mostly women are reading it. It's got hardcore sex.

It's got really kinky sex. Right. And I have to say on that note that my co-producer, his name's Marshall Cordell, and the final icing on the

cake was he said, you know, I saw a news story tonight about hardware stores running out of rope. I don't know what it's about, something about some gray book.

I'm not sure what's going on. Wow. Maybe there's something there. Of course, the lead character, for those of you who

don't know, Anna, Anastasia Steele, works in a hardware store where Christian Gray buys some choice items that he uses on her later, on her software before he enters her with his hardware.

So, I mean, were you an erotica fan before this at all? Not particularly. I will say that, like, I would be much more likely

to read erotica than maybe something like a little bit more mainstream, like, you know, stockpiling DVDs of porn and stuff. I think that's a big reason why this book, you

know, erotica's been around for ages, but in terms of men not being into the book, I don't think men get their porn through novels. And I think women always like to dress it up as

though they're doing something else. I think we made Lady Chatterley's Lover a hit for D.H. Lawrence, too, you know, in that day. Although men used to like things like The Pearl

Magazine and My Secret Life, but I guess that was before porn was so available. Right. And I think now you can be in your minivan

picking your kids up and reading about getting tied up, you know, on your iPad and no one's going to know what's going on. Yeah, I just want to make another plug, though,

for my friends at Kleese Press. And I mean, there's some really great erotica out there. There really is.

And I think that's like, I feel like we keep hearing about other, you know, all these other really great erotica opportunities for the stage.

So now I'm like way tuned into it where I never really was before. Although I don't know that your play, your musical, is really, it's not supposed

to be erotic, really. And I think the very few critics that may have not given you an A plus plus, I think they misunderstood.

They thought, oh, you know, I read somebody said something like your Christian or your people weren't that erotic. They're supposed to be a parody of this

kind of erotica. And I don't know. I mean, this 50 shades the book. I'm not sure I found it so erotic.

So it's more of a parody of just this eroticism coming forth from all these horny housewives and how we're all dealing with it.

Exactly. And I also think there's something to the timing of the character of Christian Grey because I do think right now

women are very put upon. They're wearing a lot of hats. And this guy right on the gate is in control.

He's making decisions. He's financially stable. And there's like 100 pages of setup setting the character in motion and

setting the tension up. So like, I think by the time the sex actually happens, you're invested in the story.

You've read 100 pages of a book. There's just something like going on there besides just like the sex. There's other elements that I think

are hitting a nerve in our current culture with women. I don't know. I think she's lucky.

That's what I think. You think she's lucky? Yeah, I do. I think there's a lot of luck.

And also, you know, the way she posted it online with the Twilight series. I mean, I just, you know, I just

have read such great erotica out there that hasn't gotten this kind of play. And it is a good title, 50 shades

of gray. It just has a lot of resonance to it. And well, it certainly helps you

to figure out what to wear, you know, for an interview. But in any case, I mean, who am I to criticize this?

It's more than a literary work, obviously. It's a phenomenon. And of that, I am certainly an

awe of this phenomenon. And certainly as a sex therapist, I'm in awe and respect for anything that opens up women

and lets them explore their fantasies and gives them an orgasm. And certainly, I think 50 shades

of gray, the book has given very many women orgasms. And 50 shades, the musical, well, gives you that mental

orgasm, that laughter. We have a funny thing that happens. We actually get personal letters

via email, Facebook, personal messages from husbands and boyfriend. And they say, we had

like this one guy said, I had no idea what she was reading. I thought this was like a chick flick on stage.

We were coming to see. Oh, guys love it. I mean, it's hilarious. And it totally, like we

accidentally stumbled into it. We didn't realize that there might, yes, the wife is reading it, but there's not really a

conversation about it. So the laughter kind of opens the door to that. And we had one guy say the party

hasn't stopped since we got home last week. Awesome. Yeah.

Yeah. It's great. Four play. Yeah.

Four play, four more play. Absolutely. Yeah. And you have a little, you know,

kind of kiosk out there. We met the merch girl, Kim, the merch girl who had her, you know, we got

our ties. Our sir, gray tie. And

Trixie is wearing hers in the proper way. I've got mine open and ready to tie around someone's wrist.

And, yeah, and riding crops, all kinds of fun little items so that, you know, it's like you, you,

sex is fun to laugh about and not take so seriously too. It's an icebreaker that way. You know, if, if, if

reading erotica is too serious because you're kind of wondering, oh, does she want me to be like this perfect guy, Christian

Gray? And she's wondering, does he want me to do all those things? Oh, no.

And, you know, the musical just kind of says, hey, whatever you want to do, you can laugh about it as long as it's consensual.

Yeah. You know, there is a contract involved and she does have the choice to sign the contract.

It's this thick. Right. So I think like we definitely put fun at it, but we also

want to make sure everybody knows there are choices that were made in this book and here it's not just like a total takeover

situation. Oh, no, not at all. In fact, you know, much as I, I wasn't a big fan of the books

literary quality, I, I feel it is very responsible. You know, I mean safe sex

is definitely encouraged. I mean, he's, he's all about wearing a condom. And of course, we prefer condom

any condoms, but any kind of condom, good idea. And then he gets her, you know, fixed up with birth control. I

mean, he's, it's, it's, it's pretty responsible that way. I mean, some BDSM people I know have criticized

its presentation of BDSM and I didn't think it was so bad. I mean, it's, it's

not like he's supposed to be a BDSM teacher. He's just this billionaire, you know, just a normal billionaire, you know, who likes to tie

girls up with his ties and doesn't want to be touched. I mean, it's a, it's a story. So I'm, I'm not, I'm not

too, too all about that. And I did find that your musical was very, you know, kind of encouraging

at the same time that it makes fun of all of this. And having all the different body types, you know, not just your perfect bodies

up there, but lots of different shapes of bodies I think is, is a wonderful way to, you know,

just encourage everyone and remind everyone that sex is for everyone, not just for people with perfect bodies. Yeah. And, and we do

have a couple of perfect bodies up there. Yes, you do. It is pretty funny to see everybody's routines backstage because there's, there's some people that are in a

constant gym that push up everything you can think of. And then other people's like, literally have like a large piece in front of them for

serving for one. Wow. It's a great combination. Yes. It just does show that that's, that sex and

laughter is for everyone. Yeah. And, and that you can have all different kinds of bodies that can entertain you. And that BDSM

stands for Best Damn Songs in Music, you know. And, and so now tell me

Emily, is it Deregas? Is that? Dereces. Dereces. Dereces. Okay. And

Hal has producing and writing this musical affected your sex life. Any

improvements? Well, you know, my husband is also a writer and he's a co-producer. Oh. And which

one is he on here? He's, he's, he's Al Samuel. He's not, he's not He's a shadow partner. Yeah.

He's actually in New York. We're opening in New York this week. Oh. So, so he's in New York and you, are you here in L.A. right

now? Yeah. So I guess the answer is it's not affected it positively. Oh. I mean, we just

travel, we're just traveling a lot for work and for this show right now and but it's been such a whirlwind of excitement and

the good news is that he and I worked so well together part is, you know, in a business way that, and

it's all based on, on laughter. So I feel like we've definitely benefited from the show and

not just a professional way but also in a personal way as well. Well, you know, laughter can be an aphrodisiac

but how about phone sex? I mean, do you guys do phone sex since you're away from each other? We definitely have

our own group to go into. My dad is listening. Hey dad. Well, you know, it just goes with the, the, the book.

I mean, they have a sex scene and then mom walks in, they have a lot of, I think that's part of what people appreciate about this book. I did

like that aspect, that it would go back and forth between the erotica and quote-unquote everyday life and

that is how sex is. Yeah, absolutely. It doesn't exist in a vacuum. Mom and dad sometimes walk in and, you know, I mean,

we can try to keep it private and it is, you know, better kept private, especially if you're going to be whacking people like

that, I guess. Although I whack people on the show so I don't know. My dad has seen this show several times

and he loved it. Yeah, okay. Good, good. He always, and if you've seen the show, you'll know what I'm saying,

but he often, he likes to sit in the carol seat and carol is, of course, the book club lady that, towards the end

of the show, decides to talk directly at someone in the audience. Yes. Actually, yeah, Carol

is the one who is divorced, I guess, or right, right. I was kind of wondering if she might be a little lesbian or something.

Maybe. You know, like she's kind of not quite been able to figure it out for herself, so maybe she's...

I don't know. Could be lesbian or, but then again, she seemed to want to use a strap on or something. Anyway, it's cool to see these

three housewife, they're sort of, they kind of carry the show. They're like the Greek chorus in the show, I guess. Yes, exactly.

And that's their purpose, but also so that we can have the audience see themselves on stage too, because I think in every group

there's a carol who's kind of trying to figure it out and can't. There's a pan that's the group leader and then there's a bed that's just

along for a good time. And I think that kind of embodies a lot of the groups that come to our show. Yeah, I'm trying to find out, are the cast

on their way? I got people walking in. Where's Trixie? Tell Trixie to come in then. She just ran out. Oh.

Well, I think a couple of your cast members are almost here, but I don't think they're here quite yet, so that's why we're...

I'm just kind of checking and nobody's telling me. But we're expecting a couple of the cast members. I think...

Oh, wow. Okay, so where's Trixie? Uh... So come on, sit down over here.

Oh, sure. Yeah, sit down. Is that Carolina? No, they're not here. We're just kind of waiting

for them. So I just wanted to say hi. Trixie saw the show last night. I love the show. Yeah, and she's all

in her Christian gray tie. And Max is also here. You didn't see the show.

No, but I certainly heard about it all night. It was so funny. I messed up my mascara. I kept laughing.

Oh, I love it. And like I said, it was partly because I had to endure the book, and it was just a release, like after reading lines

like, I've got a hole inside of me. And trying to take it seriously as erotica, then to have it just opened up

as a musical comedy. I just realized this book, really, what it was intended was to be the inspiration for this musical comedy.

If the book was as interesting as the musical, I probably would have read the book.

It isn't. It's okay. You can skim it. It's online. It's free online. You can just read it online. I mean, I'm not trying

to cut down on Ms. James' book sales. Although, she's already sold 100 million, so...

Yeah, she's doing alright. She's doing great. You know, talk about empowerment. Yeah, exactly. And the self-publish and all that.

More power to her. And 52 languages. Yeah. Not 50? No.

I wonder if they did a 50 celebration here. What does this say? Oh, I'm being told again that they'll be here

11 to 1115. Or is it 1115 more likely? More likely 1115. Right. Because it's almost 11.

I have people doing mime in front of us. You should just talk. Because we don't... It's hard to understand the sign language

when we haven't been trained in sign language. I know. Do you guys have sign language on set? Like, during the show? Sometimes we do.

We definitely have signers come in for different performances. And it's pretty awesome. Are you running out of time?

Do you have to leave or something? Well, I do have to step off. I have some guests in our VIP Red Room.

Oh, we are there. Well, we're hanging on to you because you guys aren't here yet.

But we will let you go. But, you know, we'll just talk about you when you're not here. Do all the crazy.

But, okay. Well, thank you so much for coming to this show and also I'm so glad

that you enjoyed it. Oh, I loved it. I did. And I was a tough customer because I'm not a fan of the book.

And so many ladies there who are fans of the book. But I just have to tell you one thing because I was in line to the ladies' room and, of course, there was no line

to the men's room at all. And the line to the ladies' room is around the block. But it did move quickly. And so, as I'm there,

I'm kind of interviewing ladies and I'm saying, are you a fan of the book? Are you a fan of the book? And a bunch of them were, of course, fans of the book.

Not surprising. And then I said, well, what did you think? And they all said that they hadn't finished it.

Oh, that's so funny. Isn't that funny? Now, I would say they hadn't finished it because it's not very well written.

But then I heard in your wonderful musical another reason that they might not have finished it. Because they didn't want it to end

because they were having so much fun. You know, and maybe that's it. So what do I know? Literary critic than I am. It's 100 million copies.

And it was the inspiration for this brilliant musical that was co-written by Emily Dorisas

who we thank very much for joining us on the Dr. Susan Block show. Well, thank you so much. Thanks, Trissy, too.

And I know the cast is super excited to tell you all their secrets. I hope you win a Tony. Can you win a Tony?

I don't think we can because we're off-Broadway. Can you win something? I hope so. I would love to see the Jizz Ballet win something, you know?

The Jizz Ballet. Which one was that? That's where in the dream they shoot the ribbons all over.

Oh, the ribbons was a Jizz Ballet. I should have known. Jizz Ballet. We need some Jizz Ribbons, Dr. Susan.

No, that was beautiful. And Anna was dancing all through the Jizz Ribbons. Lovely.

All right. Well, enjoy your little cocktail party and hope to see you sometime. Good luck.

Thank you so much, Dr. Susan. Emily Dorresas, writer, producer of 50 Shades,

The Musical. And you're listening to the Dr. Susan Block show with me, Dr. Susie.

And I'm here with Trixie Plenny and Captain Max. And somehow I can't hear myself anymore. Can you do something with my

ear? I can hear myself. Yeah, that's better. That's better. Okay. Now. Yeah.

Now, I don't know. I wish I was like that all through the beginning, but, you know. Wait, wait. It was really loud. And I hear the traffic noise

somehow. The traffic noise. That's the sound of LAX. Well, to me, it sounds good.

Oh, yeah. No, I'm all right here. I'm good. Oh, what is this? I think this is some music. I think this is The Me or More.

This is something from 50 Shades, The Musical. How deep is your depravity, Dr. Susie?

I'm picking up a lot of traffic noise. This is the red room. It's called Red Room. 50 Shades musical soundtrack.

This is really sweet, too. How much can you take? How much can you handle? How much can you take? How much can you handle?

How do you like bondage? Which rope would take with leather? Do you want to be blindfolded and tickled with a feather? It's like a nursery rhyme.

It is. It makes it sound so innocent. Sure. I think it's just the tone. Fisting.

I'm a fan of fisting. You know, I didn't finish the book, and of course there's three parts to it, but she says right away

she doesn't want to do any fisting. That's in her no-no list. That's her hard limit. Yeah, that's true. I will not go pasco.

But there are three books, so I imagine she gets fisted by the third one or something. Yeah, because I mean, well, I don't know. If I'm basing it off the play,

she totally seemed like she was willing to give up the booty. Yeah, yeah. Well, the play is only 90 minutes. The book has to go on and on and on and on.

That's another thing about the book. It kind of goes on and on and on and on. But hey, some of these big fans like that,

you know, these housewives, they don't want to finish it. Right? Just a right amount of tees, lure them in, and then all of a sudden, bam!

What was your favorite part of the musical? My favorite part of the musical? There was a few. There was a few parts. Okay, well, first one comes your mind.

First part that comes to my mind was Christian Gray singing this particular song. Okay, okay. It was the...

Was that when he was wearing the red... Yes, the red leotard thing. That was very funny. My new favorite symbol.

Right, right, okay. He did do that. And we don't want to give away his character too much. I know. You guys didn't see it.

I don't want to give away his eyes, unless he's coming tonight. Maybe. I doubt production will let that happen.

Yeah, it's kind of shocking at first, especially if you are a fan of the book. Right? Even if you're not, I mean, you didn't know

what the lead character should look like. No, but I had an idea, and when I saw Christian Gray, it was kind of like, what the fuck just happened?

Yeah, and you kind of go... Wait a minute. But then, he wins you over. Yes, he does.

Because he's really good. He's fantastic. That's how it is sometimes with guys. I mean...

Well, if you're heterosexual. Or bisexual, or curious, whatever. Whatever you're keeping. You like guys.

Sometimes guys do that. Okay, so yeah, that was a great moment. Okay, so what was your second... Ooh.

Now... My name's not Anna. You can't tell me to silence. Our tech department is deciding what to play here.

If you guys are going to play anything, can you play my song? Play the Aretha Franklin type song. Ooh, yeah. Or I've got a hole inside of me.

Yeah, this one is fun. The hole inside of me. I've got a hole inside of me. This is Anastasia Steele. There's a hole inside of me.

Is this the one playing? I need to fill A yearning down there. Are you looking for the song?

I'm looking for the actress who's singing this. There's a hole inside of me. A plot. A dark and empty space.

It was her. But who could fill my slot? This hole inside of me. I lean.

I lean. Does she have a last name? Patterson. I lean.

Patterson. So she's singing this now? I don't know if that's her singing on the soundtrack, but in the play she was singing the song. I'm not sure if that's the same.

Because they have a New York cast, and they have an LA cast, or a touring cast. You know, show business. I feel like I should have a lighter.

There's huge throbbing confidence. I mean, you know, it's so funny. I mean, that's a great line.

When you think of it as humorous. If you're, I don't know, would you get turned on by that if you're reading it? I don't know if that's in the book,

because huge throbbing confidence. I don't know if she goes that far, but she does say I have a hole inside of me that needs to be filled up.

Does she say that her cave is getting moister? Yes, she does say things like that. Definitely. I don't remember huge throbbing confidence, but then again, I only got up to...

A certain part. That might be in part two. Halfway through part one. Yeah, right. The hole inside of me got to me,

and then I don't make love, I fuck. But they did a great job with that song. Oh my goodness, they were fantastic with all their songs. Somebody needs to fill my hole

so I can become whole. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, it's a goal.

To fill your hole. Even if I have to fill it myself. All right. So I think we're playing a medley now?

Well, can we play my song? What's your song? My song is I don't make love, I fuck. Oh, okay.

We have been talking about that. I was orphaned as a little boy Yeah. Deprived. Yeah, this is the billionaire

who was an orphaned crack horse son. Yeah. That's what he was. Kissed on, beaten up.

And found a affinity for tugers. Right. The tech team doesn't like it when I start grooving. Yeah, roses.

Maybe I just didn't get the joke. Maybe all these housewives that are reading the book are actually laughing. No, I don't think so.

I think they would be turned on by a vice around a guy's dick. A vice around a dick? Yeah, you know.

A little bit. I wonder how important it is that he's a billionaire. Probably very important.

I think that forgives a lot of faults. You know. I don't know, the tech team doesn't like it when I start grooving. I've decided.

Or when we start talking along. Why did it stop? Did you want to stop? Or you couldn't stop?

Is that our safe word? The safe word is red. Oh yeah, I thought I heard the safe word. No.

What's that? I don't have an office phone, so I couldn't tell you. How are they getting here?

Our David, I don't remember his last name, but David, the PR guy. Yeah, David the PR guy.

Bringing them. And they know where to go. We got somebody opening the door because they should be here.

Any moment. And Chris is making motions that we don't understand. I'm going to go check out our guests.

Oh, they're here. Are they here? Okay. Here we are.

Brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners. I think it's time for us to take a little commercial break right now because

we're going to be back hopefully with our guests. We're going to do more 50 Shades the musical.

And by the way, I haven't given out the number yet, you know. I'm going to give away a 50 Shades gray tie.

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And I am Dr. Susan Block, and this is DrSusie.tv. And welcome, Kevin. The cast members of

50 Shades, come on in. You're fabulous. Have a seat. Why don't we have the lady sit over here?

And gentlemen, sit over here. yay, we're very excited to be back on the air

with our guests. let's see, let's see, let's see. Who do we have here? Nick,

Seymour. We need to get your headsets on you. And Caroline.

Carolina. Carolina. They don't have the A at the end. How do you pronounce your last name?

Read. Oh, that's the easy one. Put your headphones on. There you go.

Okay. And we get very close to the microphone.

Okay, and move this over, get close to each other. Yes, alright. We are settled in

with Carolina Read and Nick Seymour. That sounds so close to semen. It brings us to

the topic of their play right now. That's so many high school guys that I went to. Yes, I can imagine.

Alright, so Nick Seymour plays the part of Jose in the play 50 Shades the Musical.

We are checking it out here. We've been singing its praises and listening to you guys

sing its songs. And yes, in 50 Shades the Musical, BDSM

stands for Best Damn Songs and Music. You don't have to like the book to love the musical. In fact, in a way

if you feel like you suffered through the book like me, the musical is your reward because it's a parody

and it's very, very funny and laughter is a mental orgasm and yet it's very sex-positive, you know.

Oh yeah, definitely. Well, you're the spirit of sex-positivity Carolina.

Because you play the inner goddess. I do. Anna's inner goddess,

but you could be any of our inner goddesses. The housewife's inner goddess. It seems like you kind of come kind of pirouetting out whenever

there's some sort of fantasy reverie type of experience for one of the women, which is most of the time, really. Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah, so so you get to represent an inner goddess. What do you

feel that means? Well, I mean, in the show it stands for everything that's exciting and sexual and feminine inside of you

and that's what one of the book club ladies says to Anna. I take it as I read the books and I actually really enjoyed the books. You did! I thought they were okay.

I won't hold that against you. I thought they were a lot of fun. Can I believe you enjoyed that? I know nobody does in the cast

except for me. Maybe Alina also did. Alina actually really did. Alina who played Anastasia Steele.

She really enjoyed them. She read them on her own and it went through all of them like candy. Really? Wow, well maybe that's good for her character

because she's the one that has to live and breathe this whole thing and it's probably good for your character. Yeah, I mean in the books the inner goddess is

the same sort of thing. The excitement and the femininity and the sexuality in Anastasia but in the books they kind of make it more

like the devil on her shoulder and the angel on her shoulder depending on the decision she has to make whereas in our show it's more I'm just always kind of becking her on

and I'm kind of her sassy sidekick that's doing the tango next to her when she's being seduced and that sort of thing. And you're very physical.

You physicalize all of these emotions and feelings and stuff. So okay, so did the books

like enhance your sex life when you were reading them? Oh yeah actually. Really?

I mean did they make you want to have more sex? I mean I would say they do. I think that's why they're such a phenomenon

is that everybody, the women that read them are enticed by them and they're curious about this whether they're into this lifestyle or not

it definitely awakens them and makes them a little less of tighter. Are you into a little BDSM?

I'm actually not. Not that. Okay, and I know that a lot of women that aren't into BDSM like these books

because obviously BDSM is not exactly universal but these books sold 100 million copies. So does it turn you on

anyway even if you don't want to do this stuff? I mean I think for myself it just was

something exciting and new and fun to read and just kind of one of those like trashy throwaway fun books that you don't really

intellectualize or try to get anything intellectual out of it. You don't intellectualize them I guess. I was fully aware

of what I was reading when I was reading it and it was just a lot of fun. And there's a lot of drinking in the book. There's a lot of drinking and that's why we have drinks

now. This is halfway through our show. You came in late. It's okay.

We busied ourselves with Emily, one of the writers and she assures me she's having

phone sex keeping her marriage alive. Emily better be doing that now. They've been apart for a while because he's been in New York

doing the off-roadway stuff. Are you married or single? No, I'm single. No boyfriend?

A boyfriend? Has he seen this? Oh yes. Has he turned on?

I think so. How about you? Are you married or single? I'm single, girlfriend but single. Does your girlfriend like these books?

Yeah, she did. Why? I think it's because it's it's a kink.

It's something that is new and fun and exciting even though it's not necessarily something that she's into herself.

I think it's just the idea of opening up to something new. Any time something's kind of new it becomes kind of sexy.

Any time it's not the same old thing. Yeah, novelty is one of the greatest aphrodisiacs. And also the mind

is so huge. You could get turned on by hearing about or talking about a lot of different things that you wouldn't do.

That's true. Do you usually read erotica or is this one of your first? No, this was absolutely my first.

That explains it. I read the Game of Thrones books and some of that actually is pretty much erotica. It's nerd erotica

but there are parts of it that are pretty much like the HBO series. I don't know if you've seen that but it's pretty erotic.

It gets pretty erotic. It's nerd erotic but it's there. If you like erotica I would recommend the books

edited by Rachel Kramer Bustle that's Rackalita on Twitter, for my Twitter ites out there, Rackalita

and she edits some fantastic books for Cleese Press erotica that is really well written. I mean like erotica like it was

written by Shakespeare, I don't know, somebody who can write. Now is it almost

set in Shakespeare in Elizabethan time? No, I shouldn't use Shakespeare. Let's just say I don't know Kundera or something.

It's modern. Although it could be set in Elizabethan time. All I'm saying is what am I saying?

This phrase is like yeah I have a hole inside of me or I mean it's a great

phrase for a musical comedy song. Absolutely I completely agree. Is it a great phrase for

a book to take seriously? I don't know. No. Or I don't make love, I fuck. I don't know. These are

I mean I guess I just feel like the book is kind of simple.

But you guys take maybe that's what's caught on and I should just pay attention to that.

I am paying attention to that. And that's why I agreed to see this musical and like I said I suffered through reading the book yesterday

at least part of it. And then my reward was going to this musical and it was just like tension

tension all day pushing myself through the book and then release through seeing this great your day climaxed with our show.

We did our jobs then. We did. Well we hope you liked it. Thank you for coming. You hope I liked it.

In my head I spelled that C-U-M-M-I-N. I always follow your tweets. I knew you liked it from Twitter and now I know in person. So you play kind of a

lethario. Oh totally. He's absolutely a lethario. He's just this side of a rapist really. He doesn't accomplish too much.

But that's because Christian saves the day. Right. I think he's kind of oddly enough

he's a strangely complex character because he's totally in love with her and wants to be this masculine bravado. He has all of that. But then he also is kind of a puppy dog.

And as soon as she rejects him he is just like a mess. He means you're Jose. My Jose. My version of Jose.

They're all kind of complex characters in a way. Christian is the least believable especially the part about him being a billionaire

that is also really great looking and in his mid-twenties and that made all his money by himself.

I don't know. I know a lot of guys that are like that. You do. Okay. I would like to meet them. I would. Bring them over. I always can.

I always describe Jose as like the Pepe Lapu of our story of our musical. Yeah. He's sort of a

a more Mexican Pepe Lapu. Yes. Well you have a wonderful

like entrance with him. A walk that you do. It's kind of a dance walk. It's very sort of

slinky and sleazy and silly and seductive. I was going to say. Thank you. Kind of romantic. There is a

romantic thing going on there. Yeah. He's a very sensual person. I think he's a person who oversexualizes his own life

at least in my head. Yeah. Now he's Mexican? Is that what he's supposed to be in the book? Yeah. Well, I mean the books were written by

a British woman who it would appear has never met a Mexican-American man before. Well, the funny thing about this book is she's British. Okay.

And now it's set in Seattle and Portland. Right. But it seems like everyone is speaking with an English accent. Pretty much.

And they're drinking tea. I mean, you know. Yeah. And I hadn't thought of it that way. Oh, they do not seem like they

are in the American Northwest. Oh, no. I mean, most the dialogue is pretty, I mean, it's a British person's idea of what an American sounds

like. That's another thing about this book. It just seems so inauthentic. But, you know, I'm trying to be, you know, maybe that's

part of what makes it so universal. It's like it appeals to British men. It might have kind of like that down nabby effect to it where it's like,

oh, it's so hoity-toity. And there's some kind of that Britishism within it. Well, just like the Housewives at the

it's the chorus in the musical. They keep, you know, singing the praises of the book, of course.

And one of the praises is it's written by a British woman. So it must be, you know, kind of educated. Right.

Right. And they are so great. They are the the three Housewives. The Book Club Ladies, yeah, they're great.

The Book Club Ladies. There's like somebody for everybody in those Book Club Ladies. It's pretty amazing how many people, like after the show, women will come

up to them or to us and be like, oh, I am Carol. Or I am Bev. I am Pam. I am Bev. Wow. Yeah.

You know, you certainly could see them looking around in the audience, you know. I mean, I don't know that a lot of women would come up to you and say they're you.

No one ever says that to me. It makes me sad. Well, people should look at your Twitter page and at the picture of you

in the background doing this flying leap of some sort. And you just look like a bird more than a regular

girl. I mean, so it's beautiful. It's very beautiful. So you're kind of the ideal and they are the real. They are the real

people that have made this book, you know, 100 million sales. Well, I think that's actually one of the

kind of ingenious things that some of our writers did was they immediately found a way for people to connect with our show

because they are the women. They are these women in these book clubs reading this book and they can connect to them intrinsically

whereas it's very hard to connect to Christian Grey, like you said, a 27-year-old beautiful man, billionaire. Or it's hard to connect to Anastasia Steele

because not everybody is this literary major who is so virginal at first and then gets fisted later. That's not a ton of people.

Within two books. When does she get fisted? I don't know. Oh, come on, you read all three. I don't think she does.

She doesn't get fisted. She draws the line at it. I figure that she might have broken the line by the third book.

She let them spank her and then there's some other stuff. There's nothing like too crazy. She kind of just changes him before

any of that stuff. Sorry, spoiler alert. Before any of that stuff actually happens. We're not going to do a spoiler alert on your play.

We're not going to do a spoiler on your play but I don't care if you do it on the book. In fact, I want to know what happens because I'm certainly not going to slog through all three.

So she doesn't get fisted? She doesn't get fisted, no. He falls in love with her and she changes him and he kind of... Do they get married?

Yeah. And have kids the whole night. In the later books though, she also gets kidnapped at one point

and there's a bunch of other stuff. It's a very weird, strange, twisted tale. It kind of isn't the first one.

And especially for something that started off as Twilight fan fiction. I don't even get how that... That's why it's set in Seattle and Portland

because it started off as Twilight fan fiction. It was originally Vampire and Werewolf and Jose is the Werewolf from Twilight, essentially.

And Christian Grey is Annemar Cullum from The Vampire who glows the shiny vampire. That's Christian Grey

which is really... What is Christian Grey? Jose is the Werewolf. Jose is the Werewolf.

He's Team Jacob and Christian is Team Edward, I think, right? I have not read those books but I saw the first movie didn't quite get through it

but I know the premise. And now what is Anna supposed to be? She's Bella Swan. Bella, the lead girl.

This is the reason this became a hit because of these connections and people just glomming into it

because these connections kind of resonate in a way that a book on its own maybe doesn't

get that opportunity. So this is explaining more to me why this book is so popular. I'm surprised you didn't know it was Twilight Fantasy.

I did know it was but I didn't know about all those characters and I didn't know about the character parallels. In fact, I kind of looked and I got,

I don't understand this, where's the vampire? Where's the Werewolf? I should have known that Jose would be the Werewolf

and that Christian, he does seem like the vampire just because his name is Christian. Cold but sparkly. Yeah, exactly, all that stuff.

Yeah. Okay, I've got a note coming in here. Looks very official. I have a caller. Jose?

Is Jose a question? Okay, his name is Jay. Does he want to say his last name? JC. Okay, hello JC.

Hello JC. Hello Jay. Hi. Welcome to the Dr. Susan Block show

with 50 Shades the Musical. Hi, thanks so much. Long time listener, first-time caller. Awesome.

I just wanted to ask Jose and Well, I was wondering because I published it last week. I thought it was really funny.

Oh, awesome. Anna seems to be into Jose but not really and I was wondering if

Jose was into you know, BDSM like Christian is if that might have kind of turned the tide.

That and a billion dollars, I think would have done it. No, go ahead. Yeah, I think and I'm sorry, your question is

is it just the BDSM that is why she's not why she doesn't go with Jose? Well, kind of.

It seems like Anna, she thinks he's attractive, she's nice, he's funny but if he had like a twin brother or something that was a little hotter

and super into BDSM or something. Yeah, I think I think

that she probably would never fall for Jose. I feel like she would always put Jose in that friend category.

There's a lot of girls. It's kind of sad in a way but a lot of girls put certain guys into the friend category

and it tends to be the guys that aren't billionaires. You said if he had a hotter brother, she would maybe fall for him.

Maybe like a hotter older brother that looks a lot like Jose only is just a little hotter and older. Exactly, but you know, not as a feminine.

It's just sort of more masculine. You think Jose is a feminine? Oh, Christian is a feminine. No, no, I mean like, you know,

if there was someone like Jose, but it was a little more masculine and not so Well, you know, in the book, Jose is very masculine

except he's an artist photographer so he's kind of a little effeminate. He's that macho artist. He's like the good friend

that's always there for her. She wants the mysterious, you know, kind of jerk. Yeah, and I

still think the billionaire kind of thing. There's some part of it where I think having billions

of dollars probably helps sell Christian. Well, even though she fights it all through the book, she's like don't buy me a car, don't buy me

a laptop, but I will take all of these things. Right. And that's an element that we make fun of in the show as well. Where Christian is just doing all of these things

and it just gets more and more ridiculous. But I think that is a really essential part for a lot of these women of this kind of porn is the billionaire part.

Oh, yeah. That's what sets this apart in a way from the erotica I was just recommending to you earlier. People in that erotica are more like regular

people. Guys are regular guys. They might be really good looking, but it's not so much the billionaire part. It's the romance.

See, this is not just erotica. It's romance erotica, you know. That's true.

So, Jay, are you a fan of the books? Well, I haven't read the books yet, but I went with a friend to see the show. Okay.

You know, I'm thinking maybe it's worth reading it. Especially now. You might as well.

I am not a big fan of the book, although I am a big fan of the musical. I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about the movie.

Well, you'll have to let us know. But I'm just going to say you don't need to be a fan of the book to enjoy the musical.

Yeah. Because it's just so many talented people singing great songs and making fun of taking sex

seriously. I think even if you don't read the book, you get the jokes because it's all about you know, like one of my favorite

philosophers, Camille Palia, says sex is a comedy, not a tragedy. You know? And it's a basic thing. I mean, yeah

sex can be a tragedy. I mean, yeah, you could get AIDS. You could be the victim of a lust murder. But these things are so

rare compared to the comedy of sex, which is often a comedy of errors and a comedy of just all kinds of things.

And this musical really sends that up. I think that's a beautiful sentiment. And that's

really funny because I think that is one of the fun parts of our show is that we kind of poke fun at the fact that these people do take their sex so

seriously. And I take sex very seriously. Hell, I'm a sex therapist. So I enjoy being sent up myself every once in a while.

And this sends me up for being someone who deals with, you know, so many people and their problems. And also BDSM, I enjoy

it. Not heavy duty, but a little light spanking and a little this and that. You know, I've got my little Juxleather whips here. Those are nice.

Shout out to Juxleather. Aren't these nice? Those are really fun. Do you like the little BDSM? I mean, I'm not against a little bit of it. You're not against. I'm not against it.

That would not be a hard no. Learning new things. It's not a hard no. Definitely not. Sub or dumb. It's not a

soft no, though, either. Okay. How about you, Jay? Are you into a little BDSM? Well, it's come up a time or two.

It's not something that I normally search out. Are you married or single? I'm in a relationship, but not married. With a girl? No.

You're in a relationship with a guy? Yeah. Oh. You must be in the theater, then, right? What's that?

I'm just teasing, actually. I was being very stereotypical. I said you must be in the theater. Oh, yes, I am.

You are, see? Good guess. What do you do in the theater? I work in a box office.

Oh, okay. Are you an aspiring actor or producer or anything? No, no. I've never really tried to act at all.

Except, you know, in some kind of, you know, master servant kind of thing. So you do a little role play

in your personal life? Right. But not for, you know, other people. At least not for, like, a whole audience of people. Oh, okay.

And you do this with your boyfriend? Occasionally, but more just it's happened with other people, kind of, too.

Here and there. Interesting. And what, I mean, you like the master servant role play

kind of thing? I can get into it, but to be honest with you, when I've done it, it's more been sort of for the benefit of,

you know, the other people. The other people? Wow. Well, you know, it's interesting because Anna, especially

in the beginning of this book, she is constantly saying that she's doing all of this

all the BDSM stuff, that is, for the benefit of Christian. She doesn't want to do it. In fact, she thinks it's totally

like out there. But she is doing it for his benefit only because she loves him. He's gorgeous.

He's a billionaire. Well, she says it's not because of his money, of course. But he is a billionaire. And, well, because he wants this,

and a little bit because he was so tormented as a child and traumatized by this older woman that I don't know.

Took advantage of him? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. In the way that he wished to be taken advantage of. But anyway, yeah.

But it's interesting that I think that's why a lot of people enjoy sexual submission. It's because

they sort of don't want it to be theirs. They want somebody else. They want to please. They want to please somebody else.

But in that pleasing, they are pleased. Maybe there's a hole inside of you, baby. I'm talking to you.

Yeah, well, that's kind of what happened, I guess, is he was really enjoying it and I was kind of just along the ride. I was glad.

Well, I'd be curious what you think of the book if you read it. I mean, you seem to really enjoy the musical. I mean, but is that more

you enjoy the musical as a theater connoisseur? I just thought it was funny. Yeah, it is funny.

Whether it, you know, almost seems like a Saturday night live thing and, you know, it's just really funny.

Well, I would love it if you would read a little of the book. Just, you know, it's online. There's, you know, parts of it and the whole thing

is actually online. And then call me back like next week or something. Yeah, and if

you do, I'll give you a free Sir Grey tie. Oh, awesome. Yeah, because we have an extra.

So, okay, you win a free Sir Grey tie. All you have to do is give me a report on any part of the

book. You know, if you can only get in one page, one page. That's okay. Okay. But I would love to hear your

thoughts on the BDSM part. Okay. All right. Thanks for calling. Thank you for talking to you and great job with the show you guys. Okay.

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I'm here with two of the stars of Fifty Shades. The musical

and it is hilarious. You don't have to be a fan of the book to love the musical. Now it's going all over the

country, right? Not all over the world. The book is all over the world. Maybe this will someday be all over the world. We're right now in North America. So we've been in

pretty much all over the states. We've been in almost every region of the state so far and then we've been in Canada. Were you part of the New York cast?

Not the off-Broadway cast but we did it. This show started in New York last January

at the Gramercy Theater on 23rd. So you LA people or are you from somewhere else? New York.

I'm from Chicago. So you're living here just for doing the show? Where are you staying? Right now we're at the Custom Hotel.

You didn't have to say exactly where. Now everybody's going to mob you. Oh no. We won't be there tomorrow.

We're moving into houses for the next few weeks. By the way we should say that the play

is at the Kirk Douglas Theater. I heard Kirk Douglas was there tonight. He was. Wow.

97 years old he was sitting there with his wife laughing and it was really funny. And we made one Spartacus reference

and she was dying. I love how you guys make some references to I don't know whether you say this

in every city, but to say hey lady from Culver City I'm going to power fuck your titties. That's one of the parts in the show

that changes depending on where we are. We have a send up to every local place. There are a few different parts where we will add in stuff based on

where we are, but that's definitely one of them. In that part of that song it'll change. The sensibility reminded me of that

song I'm sexy and I know it. A little bit. That kind of sensibility

where it's I like that. I'm a fan of that. It's probably

already been done, but just in case you're right. Okay and sometimes great genius comes from mistakes. So anyway

yeah it's like it's a joke. It is a joke. It's laughing at

our sexuality or our sex ability whatever, but at the same time it's got a good beat and what is the greatest

aphrodisiac a good beat? Music is the food of love. You get dancing we were listening to the music

earlier tonight and we were all dancing around the studio so what is a better aphrodisiac than that? I don't know.

Being that I'm a dancer I respond physically to movement to music rather. Music is the best.

Music is the best for that. Even if you're not a dancer I mean just you don't even have to dance.

After all, what is dance a vertical expression of a horizontal position? I've heard that. That's beautiful.

I know it's not original, but it is beautiful. So if you can't get into the vertical expression too well, if you're awkward like Anna is in the book

then you get into that horizontal position and you groove to that music. Oh yeah. So are you in a relationship?

Yes. With a girl? Girl. And does she read Fifty Shades? Has she read it? She has read it.

She's read all of them. A fan. She's a fan. She got into them. And did she want to have more sex

on the days? She read them before we got together. Did you make her re-read it? I should make her read it.

If she liked it you could have No, she saw the show when she sees the show

she gets into it. I think that's one of the fun things about our show too we have a lot of men who come to see the show and they end up getting dragged by their

female counterparts generally. Dragged by the time. And they end up really loving it. That's kind of the fun of it.

They love it because it's silly and it's funny. And then I think sometimes they go home and they end up benefiting from the fact that

it's open. I am sure that they do. I saw that going on. I saw these guys

in the beginning kind of looking like this before they went in. I was like okay I'm here. What time is it? And then in the intermission

they're all like I can see my woman's hot and then at the end they're like rushing her off. Take advantage.

They're taking notes. Pulling off their ties. Getting ready. It's a good bet to take

your lady to. Even if you haven't read the book. But so many ladies have read the book. Did you read it?

I read excerpts of it in synopsis but I've never read the whole thing. Do you like to read erotica? I don't really read erotica.

You're more of a porn watcher. I'm a porn watcher. I guess I would be a porn watcher. Thank you for being honest.

I imagine you're being honest. Nobody would lie about that. Do you have a favorite genre? I don't think I do actually.

And maybe this is stupid of me but I think it's just porn is fun for me. I don't know.

I'm just porn. I don't know. I'm such an idiot male though where I can get turned on

by a girl riding a bike. That's kind of sexy. I don't know why that popped in my head. I'm going to have to ask my girlfriend

to ride a bike for me. I have a client that sniffs bicycle seats. Really? Both of us.

I've never heard of that before but I guess that makes sense. If there's something that you can do

not only for girls but if there's something you can do there's somebody who has it as a fetish. If you can think of it as a fetish.

I'm always hearing new fetish. Do you find it difficult as a straight guy in the theater? Especially the musical theater?

Or maybe it's the opposite. There's so many girls because there's so many gay guys. I don't know about the New York cast

but I know our cast we're almost all straight guys. We're all straight guys. It's never happened in a show.

We've got the two male dancers in the show. Even the male dancers. They were so good looking I could have been sure they would be gay.

If they do theater and they're that ripped you have to assume they're gay but they're not. Occasionally you do find ripped good looking guys

that are hetero but they are not billionaires. No, the downside is they're actors. The billionaire part kind of

Do the staff ever play with each other? Do you have affairs going on? The cast? Cast affairs?

I think there have been but we've also had rotation throughout the cast as well. And also most people have boyfriends and girlfriends.

The vast majority of people have long-term relationships that are back home. Do you ever try a little spanking in your social life

or love life? No, I don't think that's I'm not opposed to the idea. As your girlfriend listening?

I think she'll probably listen to it later. I think she's asleep now. She's probably asleep being as late as it is.

It's Saturday night. It is Saturday night. Do you know where your girlfriend is? Well anyway,

she'll listen later because of course we play this later. Is there something you'd like to explore that you haven't explored?

No, I think for the most part we're pretty open with each other and honest with each other. We talk and if there's anything we want to do

it ends up happening. Did you ever try any bondage? No, I don't think so.

I don't want to say I'm real vanilla in the bedroom but I don't think I'm real vanilla but I don't know if I've done

a bondage. I think some of that though comes from being an actor and stuff and a lot of that

we picked each other up in bars before. That's fun to pretend you don't know each other. That's sexy

but that's not within the sex itself. You know what I mean? That's just sexy stuff. I think that I would consider that part of the sex.

If it leads to sex. Anything that leads to sex to sex? Then I'm having a lot more sex than I realize if that's the case.

Yeah, I'd say if it leads if you can see the direct relationship it would be a kind of foreplay. In that case I last for a very long time.

Well, I mean lasting is usually involving thrusting. We're not saying that all through the foreplay. No, I don't want us to hear this here

but I'm just going to go with what you said before. How about you? You ever tried bondage? Never.

Well, I mean, is your training in ballet? Originally, yes. And then I went to college.

From domination and submission right there. So true. Pain. I often think of the ballet dancer training

as being a kind of BDSM in a way. Not bondage. Although you're kind of in bondage in those shoes. My God, pointe shoes were the worst.

It is a kind of foot bondage. It hurts so bad. And you do it for the benefit of your master the audience or your teacher

whether it's the teacher or the audience. I always think ballet especially is a form of kind of

I guess it is a form of submission. It is. Yeah, I mean it's a discipline for sure. It doesn't involve sex

as we say intercourse, but it's kind of sexy. You got to look hot. You become very comfortable with your body

because you're always looking or not. There's the two extremes because you're always looking at yourself in the mirror and you're in a lead tartan tights

and you grow to love yourself or you have problems. Or hate yourself. Because you're always in front of yourself.

I just remembered one of my clients, one of my best clients is a ballet fetishist and loves to wear

leotards and tights. Oh, interesting. Yeah, and he actually takes ballet. He studies, but I mean, you know, he's a he owns a store, but

this is his secret life in a way, but he does have friends who are into it and he has girlfriends who know that he just gets off on this

on wearing ballet tights and leotards and that's Kapizia. I used to model for Kapizia.

Really? Well, I think we're kind of running out of time. How about if we play a song?

What song should we play? Now, we have the CD. We've played I don't make love, I thought.

And we played, I have a hole inside of me. And Christian's songs. And we played the one where he's in the red room and jumping around in his little

onesie. So I mean, one that I now are you singing on the one that

on the album? You're on the album. So maybe we should play the Jose The one I did the tango to. Oh, yes, you do the tango to it.

You know, you can get up on the stripper pole. If you're there. What's the name of the track? The name of the track is

Mia Moore. This is this is Jose as played

by Nick Seymour singing in 50 shades the musical

and it's me Is it called me a more? That's what it's called. That's the name of the song.

How are we doing there? Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Tango or flamenco? Tango. Tango, tango, tango.

You've always been the girl of my dream. You've always seemed too perfect

to be real. He's singing to Anna. Now that I'm drunk enough the time has come

it seems. Or need to tell you just the way I

feel. Would you like a margarita? My mama's show me a

Mia Moore. Why are you so aloofie? Here have a roofie and let's get cool.

You don't have to have a ring upon your finger to grab my finger Mia Moore. You don't have to run

and hide. You feel just like a pride when I am deep inside of you. Mia Moore.

Come dance with me, my love. Feel the romance with me to one glance. You'll feel your heart advance.

Your pleasure I'll enhance my love. It doesn't have to be so scary. We'll missionary

to give me a more. I've loved you for so long and know this can't be wrong. But it really hurts my tongue.

Mia Moore. In the south of France I'll slay you with my lens my love.

I'll be your big ohuna and I'm for doona inside your boona Mia Moore.

You don't even have to douche your pussy or your douche or trim your giant boon. Great.

Awesome stuff. I haven't heard our recording of that in a while. That is so hilarious. That is so funny and it does make fun of that moment

when of course they're both drunk Anna and Jose and he makes a pass which is a little more than a pass.

Forces himself on her. It's a bit of a date rave tango for us. Well you know and it's just so funny the way

it makes fun of this very common concept that you have to be drunk enough to you know

tell someone how you feel. That's not a thing? Is that not a thing? It's totally a thing.

It's making fun of the thing because the thing is so silly and it shouldn't be a thing but it is because people are so shy

and you know just tell them just make a move. People are puritanical.

Not nervous. Easy for you to say. Guys are supposed to make the first move not always but usually

and sometimes that's tough. Look, he got rejected. You put yourself out there.

But he was in love with someone else. If you're drunk it makes it easier I guess or a lot harder probably. Actually I think she would have rejected him

even if she wasn't in love with someone else because he's been her friend for a long time. He's one of those guys that she put in the category of friend. That's that dreaded friend zone.

And hey all I can say is sometimes it's good to leap over the barrier

of friend zone because who better to fall in love with than a good friend, someone you know you can already trust. Thank you. Absolutely.

I think it's a great thing. I fell in love with my friend and I'm still married to him 22 years. That's wonderful.

We were friends before we fell in love and I tell you there's nothing better and it's a great thing because when you fall in love

it's like wow you open up all that lust but you already know you can trust each other.

That's important. I love that. My parents are married almost 35 years and I'm always like mom you guys are the cutest.

He sent me a message yesterday. He's like your daddy's so sweet. Put gas in the car before I went to work to make sure I had a full tank

and I just love him. He filled my hole. Exactly. We had gasoline. What?

We are almost out of time. Hey Captain Max. We've had a good time with our 50 Shades The Musical people.

Did you want to say anything? Did you want to get online? It's a great show. It's a great musical. How much longer are you going to be in LA?

We're here until March 30th. Kirk Douglas Theatre and we have a link on the blog

and we'll have more links but get tickets now. If you like to laugh about sex I think it's a great thing

and certainly if you like to laugh about BDSM it's a good thing. You don't have to like the book.

If you do like the book you'll love the send up. If you don't like the book you'll love the send up

because it's a parody and it's a great thing. It's a great date thing. You'll get laid.

So great. What are you going to next? Toronto. All right. All of our

fans in Toronto get ready for 50 Shades The Musical. Absolutely. You guys are great.

We're so happy to have you here. Thank you for having us. It was so much fun. I was so excited. Here you are.

Here's the sex show. Hopefully you'll be able to weave this into a little role play later with your significant others.

Anyway, you've been watching and or listening to the Dr. Susan Block Show with me, Dr. Susie and go see

50 Shades and check out DrSusie.TV if you need to talk and you want to talk privately you can call us at

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who swings through the trees as well as with each other. The bonobos are mascots and

they are the Make Love Not War chimpanzees and they're highly endangered so we have to help them to stick around. So

yeah, make like bonobos not baboons. I mean one of the things I like is that your character

the rapist is rejected and the sadist as long as he makes it consensual you know

you can do anything you want folks as long as you make it consensual you know just make like bonobos not baboons

make love not war make love to someone you love tonight even if that someone is you I know some of you 50 Shades fans

are using it to masturbate and I approve I love you

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