Polly Superstar in Bonoboville

Full transcript of Polly Superstar in Bonoboville on The Dr. Susan Block Show:

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Brothers and sisters, lovers and sinners, artists and exhibitionists, lawyers and connoisseurs, authors and dancers, monogamous and polyamorous, all you children of sex, and we are all children of sex. We may or may not be children of God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Brahma, or the great rubber corset in the sky. We don't know,

but we do know. Until we start cloning ourselves, we are all children of sex with a capital X. Can I hear an amen? Can I hear an A-women? I want to welcome you to the new womb room, baby. Yeah, right, we just opened up. Really, it's almost a virgin womb room. And we feel like an almost virgin, not quite. We've done a couple

shows down here. Down here, right? Oh, wow. Down here in the womb room. In Dr. Suzy Little. Come on. Can we try that again? In Bonoboville. Thank you, brothers and sisters. The new Bonoboville in West LA. Here in the womb room, in my womb room, anyway, I got a book, a wonderful book that emerged from the womb-like mind

and life of my featured guest tonight. Let me ask you to give her a warm welcome without having to ask twice glass. Polly Superstar, author of, yeah, Sex Culture Revolutionary. Right. That's right. That's you. Hi there. Hi. Welcome, Polly. Thank you. Thanks for having me here. I'm so excited to have you here. I have you

starting out the show with me and my co-host, Polly. My co-host is Evie, the snake. So cute. She, she, this is a girl snake. She likes you. I hope she doesn't like you as much as she liked our mutual friend, John Law. Oh yeah, you have to tell me the story. Okay. Hi, John. John is our mutual friend. He took me up the

Golden Gate Bridge several times, including my first time, my virgin time of the bridge. You know. That's going up the arches of the Golden Gate Bridge. Does everyone get that? What she did is kind of insane. Well, Polly, pandemonium. Yeah, we have a lot in common, including insanity. Uh-huh. But anyway. Why did

you come to that conclusion? The snake. Welcome, John, to my show. He promoted his book, which is too far for me to reach. But it's a wonderful book about the cacophony society, which came after the suicide club, which then got, like the womb room, the burning man sensation that everybody knows. Anyway, he came to my

show and, and of course loves animals and embraced Evie as you did. But Evie gave him a special welcome. She did? What did she do? Well, it's a fetish that let's say I bet you don't have. And it's stunk to high heaven. Oh my God. No, she didn't bite him. Don't worry about that. She didn't strangle him. Don't worry

about that. And she didn't like emit some toxic fumes that was like a Bill Cosby potion number nine, but she pooped all over him. She pooped on him. She pooped all over him and he was wearing this beautiful suit. I'm picturing that right now. Just like Dark Phoenix except white where Dark Phoenix is

black and a colorful tie. Oh, so he had to do the show covered in snake poop? Right. Aw. No. No, we cleaned him up. We cleaned him up with our tongues. That's how we do it. No, that's kind of disgusting, right? Okay. No, that's that's bad. Take that back. All right. Anyway, that's the snake. And,

and this is Evie and she'll be kind of, you know, reading your book. I read your book twice. It is an amazing, beautiful, passionate, just eloquently written memoir about living the sex life, you know, not just the sex life. I mean we all live a sex life, but sex culture. Yeah, that's kind of my, my little

realm. It always has been ever since I was a little kid. I've always been kind of obsessed with sexuality. Yeah, mainly because when I was a little kid, I noticed that if I talked about sex, adults would get really uncomfortable. And I was like, what is that? Why are they acting so weird? And it made me

want to talk about it more. It did. You'd like to make adults uncomfortable. I did when I was a little kid, yeah. Right. Or not necessarily, I didn't even know that it was discomfort. I just knew that something was happening that I wasn't being told about, that there was something there. And I was

just curious. And so I would always bring up, bring it up and ask questions and be really curious. And my mom was very supportive. She was a sex therapist. Yes, yes. And so she told me everything, really young. Yes. And so you're now making up for making all those adults feel uncomfortable

by making adults feel comfortable with sex. And that's kind of your calling in life. Part of it. Sex culture, you know, is partly about making people feel comfortable with their sexuality and expressing it, you know, beyond their private life, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I think

that sexuality is this really important part of being a human being. It's such an important part. And yet it's been shut behind the bedroom door for centuries. And I think that's weird. Like, I don't really get it. Like, I don't understand why it's considered to be

separate from the rest of being human. Somehow not as, you know, it's not something you can do around other people. You can do everything else. I mean, apart from poop, maybe. Well, there are those boundaries. Right, right. You know, that went

a little far. We were all freaked out. And I mean, the poop, the smell, the look, it was appalling. You know, and there are things that can even appall sex culture revolutionaries like us. I mean, I remember when I went to the zoo to look at the bonobos, which I love to do.

And I love bonobos, of course. I happen to write a book about them. I've read it. It's great. Thank you. And, you know, I'm usually totally inspired by the bonobos. And this time, a bonobo named Junior was just like fingering his asshole in front of everybody,

just in front of all the humans. And I was just like, oh, that's funny. I know, I know, it's very British to say monkey. I like talking about monkey balls with Chris Ryan. And he's always like, it's actually not a monkey. It's an ape. And I'm like, yeah,

but monkey balls sound so much more fun than ape balls. It's like a barrel of monkeys. Why am I discussing the size of monkey balls with Chris Ryan? Well, you know, he would discuss those types of things. And he kind of tweeted at us tonight. Thank

you, Chris. Hi, Chris. Hi. That this was a special night when we're meeting. Yeah. Me and Polly Superstar. It's very exciting for me. You know, because I love this book. And because, like, I feel like we've kind of led parallel lives. I mean, we haven't met

until tonight. But you and I both, you know, have these sex, community, culture, composite complications. Yeah. And you and I both wear crazy clown-like outfits. Yeah. And we're both kind of cross-eyed a little bit. Whoops. Okay. Yes. We're

crazy clown-like ladies. Yeah, I'm a little bit cross-eyed. It's true. So it's good to meet you. We have Chris Ryan in common. We have Annie Sprinkle in common. Love that lady. Yes. Yes. Max was Annie Sprinkle's first publisher.

Way back when she was, you know, basically going from the fine art of hookery to the finer art of pornery. And then into artistry with Willem de Ritter and Captain Max, then known as Mickey Leblavich-de-Lupkevis. And, yeah, I'm just

getting into a little history here because Polly is part of history and she has quite a bit of history in her book, mostly focused on San Francisco. You started out in London. I did, yeah. I started out in the kink scene in

London in the BDSM scene before it was called BDSM. When it was called kink, pure kink. Or what was it called? Fetish. Fetish. Fetish. The fetish scene. And that accent, too. Fetish. Well, in London it had that

accent. I don't know what it was called over here. It's a beautiful accent. It really does impress. Yes. Thank you. My audience is nodding about the accent. It's very sexy, right? Fetish. Thanks, you guys.

Right. Yeah, so I was actually a latex fashion designer back in London. And your dad kind of got you going in that in an indirect way because he was a hot air balloonist. He was, but they're not latex balloonists. No, they're

not latex, but it's like rubber. What are they made out of? Some kind of rubbery stuff that you would roll around in a fetishy way. No, no, they're not made of rubber. What are they made of? They're made of like

fabric. Fabric. Yeah, yeah. They're made of like a... I'm trying to connect here. But, yeah. I was trying to see where you were going there, like your dad got you into the fetish scene. Wait a second.

Why do I think? I guess it's just, yeah. No, I didn't mean it that. But on the other hand, in a more emotional way, I think that's true because your dad was kind of ill when you kind of grew up

fast in London. And, you know, your book dramatically starts with a slap across the face from your dad. It does. But it's complicated. It's, again, complicated. It's not like...

He's a great guy. He's a fantastic guy, but, you know, fantastic people sometimes fuck up. And also, I was a brat. Yeah. I was a nightmare. You were. That's true.

I was a terror. No excuse, but, yeah. I was like leaving the house like 16 years old, wearing a corset and a chainmail thong and nothing but big hair on the top, you know.

And I was 16 years old. I mean, and my mom would be like, Polly, you forgot to put your clothes on again. I'd be like, fuck you, I'm leaving. So I was kind of a tear away

like nightmare. And they knew that if they tried, my mom was just, I mean, my dad was really sick for many years. And so my mom was barely holding on. They were both

barely holding on. It was a really stressful situation. And I was this just terror of a teenager just going out and doing drugs and getting into the fetish scene

way too young and being crazy and trying to push those boundaries because the thing was my parents were so liberal that I had nothing to push against. It

was just like, like jello, you know. And I wanted to like have like my teenage experience. And so I would do really extreme things to try and get a reaction

out of them. And I could never get a reaction out of them. And so there were these moments where, you know, like that moment where my father just cracked and

slapped me. But it was more just like this moment of realness, you know, between us where we both just started crying because it was just, you know,

we were all, it was just a really fucked up situation, you know. It was, it was. And we've been in those situations, all of us.

Everybody has. Whether we're in public sex culture or truly repressed sex culture and all cultures are sex culture around

the world. I mean even the most private sex is part of the culture. It's part of being human, which is one reason sex is a little more complicated than just

breathing or eating is because it does go on between people who have different ideas of what it should be and what's good and we need people. I mean we can

jerk off, you know, and it's great to jerk off, you know. Jack off, Jill off, whatever. But, you know, we usually want to do it with other people. And

then complications come in, like, you know, consensuality, right? That's that's a serious point that comes up now more and more in our

new, nouveau sex culture. Consent is modern. I know the concept that consent is modern is kind of tragic. Like, oh, this new

modern concept where it's actually yes from both people. Wow. I like to think and this is emphasis on like to think that in

the olden days before property, before civilization, maybe we lived like bonobos and maybe there was more of a sense of, you know, true

individual autonomy for sex and making decisions and nobody owned anybody because, you know, we were hunter-gatherers. Well, I think

that's a likely kind of conclusion to come to bearing in mind all the science that's coming out right now. I know it's still

controversial, but obviously, you know, obviously you feel a certain way about it. You wrote a book about bonobos and connecting to them

as a culture and saying that we could be inspired by them. And I think that like during times there's always, the proposition

is really scary to people. It's really terrifying, this idea that monogamy isn't natural and that it's culturally imposed and

that that's why it's so hard and so painful. But, you know, there are, I feel like there's kind of Galileo's of every time

period, you know, and people come out and say things. And then there's also everyone else who nobody remembers all those names are forgotten because

they weren't the Galileo, they were just the person with the crazy idea that was wrong. But I think that time will tell that this

theory is actually right, you know, because it just resonates. The theory being, I guess for me, the way I see it

as, you know, we're not just killer apes. We have another side, the bonobo side. I mean, we have our killer ape side, you know, our

chimp side, and we do even more killing than that. Quite a bit more. But we also have this bonobo side that maybe we can bring out a little

bit. And it was kind of covered up when, you know, we learned where babies come from is basically Chris Ryan's theory

that I pretty much agree with. And once you learn where babies come from, you want to own them. Well, some people do. And then

when you want to own the babies, you also want to own the women that make the babies. And the property that you can leave to your babies

because now you feel these are my babies, and I have to leave them properties so that, you know, my life is meaningful.

We created structures in our culture in order to kind of make sense of living together in groups that weren't natural anymore because we had stopped

hunting and gathering. And so we created these structures and all these structures developed and they brought out the worst side

in us. In a way. I mean, you know, myself, I wouldn't want to go back to hunter-gatherer times because I'd be dead. They wouldn't have

invented my contact lenses or been able to perform my heart operation. I mean, I got it, you know, hats off to civilization

for certain things. But in terms of sex, it's kind of fucked up. And so we're here to kind of deal with it and help people deal with it

and maybe find other ways to, of course, bridge this edge of destruction

that we might be on. And one of those ways is through connecting through our sexuality and Polly is

just a master or a mistress at connecting with people through sexuality. It's what we believe in and

we're just very, very excited to have Polly here. Polly started a group you might have heard of called

kinky salons. And kinky salons is, yeah, let's give some applause. And a lot of this book

is about her creation of this group and her struggles. And she's, you know,

very, I think, honest. Who knows, you know, maybe we're making up all the problems. Just a bunch of lines. But, you know, it reads in

an honest type of way. I didn't fact check, but I felt a certain

honesty of expression about the ups and downs, you know, and I also could relate because

I don't do exactly the same thing, but we have our group kind of activities, you know, and

our ups and downs. And, you know, it's great to have this book that's such a raw and open memoir.

By the way, it is endorsed by none other than Margaret Cho, comedian Margaret Cho. Let's give a shout out

to Margaret, who is now doing this amazing kind of project out with the homeless, right?

Yeah, that's right. She's been doing it in San Francisco. She kind of arrived back in San Francisco a few weeks ago and was really

kind of overwhelmed by the homeless problem there and was really wanting to give back to the city, which is where she's from.

Does she also stay in LA? She does, but she's not overwhelmed by our homeless problem. We got it too.

I think that's because it was her hometown and it was different from the last time she was there. And so I got this call from her. It was kind of funny, actually, because

her phone was kind of breaking up a little bit and she was trying to say something to me on the phone like, like, Polly, tomorrow it's like the homeless and

Robin Williams is like and I was like, what is she talking about? But I kind of gleaned that she wanted me to show up at noon

the next day at the corner of Market & Castro and I wasn't quite sure what for. She was like, dress up, dress crazy. It's going to be amazing.

And when I arrived she was telling me that that Robin Williams was this great philanthropist

and coming back to San Francisco had also really made her miss him and that she wanted to be him. Like, don't be sad

that Robin is gone. Be Robin. So she created the hashtag Be Robin. You know what? I didn't even realize that.

I thought she was talking about Robin Hood who robs from the rich and gives to the poor. I mean, because I thought that makes sense with the homeless so I was thinking about Robin Hood.

Am I like dumb or is that also a connection? That's a connection. But Robin Williams is totally cool because you know what? He was a clown.

He was a mime. He was a San Franciscan. Absolutely. And so she was out there literally with a little

speaker and a mic and like collecting money from people and then giving it back to the homeless people right there. Like she was like

fuck charities. You don't even know where that's going. I'm just going to give it to the people right here that need it. So she was just handing out cash and like

going to Walgreens and buying like socks and hats and giving those out and just giving them directly to the people there.

The Mother Teresa of Comedy. Super inspiring. And she's still doing it. She's still doing it a few more times kind of between now and

the holidays. Well that's very cool and she really really liked your book. She loved my book which was really amazing because I met her and I handed

her my book with my phone number in it and that's how we met was three days later she called me like oh my god Polly I just finished your book. I'm like it's amazing.

And so I was like wow it's Margaret Jo's calling me. This is really amazing because I've always been a huge fan because

she's like the most famous like bisexual pervert in the world right? Well how about Madonna I mean I don't know.

I guess, I guess, yeah. Our lady Gaga I mean I don't know. There's a lot of bisexual perverts but she's

very open about it. I know what you mean. She talks about it. She describes it. She goes into her inner life. I mean there's

plenty of bisexual perverts out there and we know about them but they don't go into it. She's very brave the way she talks on stage about her personal life

and stuff. It's like very relatable so I think she's a really great advocate. Yeah well she's a sex revolutionary.

Right, right. By the way I just thought of another sex revolutionary. I mean someone that Max and I

know, well he met her a long time ago. I met her pretty long ago 20 years ago. Tuppy Owens from London. Yeah. Did you ever

connect with her in London? Tuppy was around and definitely I was aware of her when I was in London but I was very young. I moved here when I was

24. So I was in the fetish scene but it was more like the younger crowd like torture garden was my big thing.

That was the event that I used to go to and that's still going now. I was at the very first torture garden which was just like in the back of a bar you know.

And so what Tuppy was doing with the Sex Maniacs Ball

was something that when I was a teenager felt like it was too old for me. I knew it was happening but I didn't

appreciate how amazing it was until I got older and I was like wow this woman is doing amazing work. Why didn't I appreciate that at the time

and I think it's just because I was young and naive and silly. Yeah well you know we all get to be young and naive and silly and

some of us get to stay naive and silly our whole lives. So you certainly

learned a lot over the years. You know this book is also a handbook to how to throw a sex party.

Okay so if you want to know how to throw a sex party this really gives you a lot of pointers.

The ups and downs from you know doing this wonderful performance dancing on the bar

to promoting to cleaning the toilets that are always overflowing. Yeah exactly

or being broken. Broken toilets. Yes. So it's not all

glamour. It's surprising. It's not all glamour. So

can you just kind of I guess summarize how to throw a sex party or does there's like five rules

or something. Well I mean I don't think so necessarily. For Kinky Salon there's sex parties in general which is a huge you know

variety of things. For a Kinky Salon in particular there are a few things that are really important. One is

safety. That we have these kind of methodologies for how to create safety in the space, how to create accountability how people know what is

okay and what's not okay to do. And then there's also creativity. It's really important for me that Kinky Salon

has this incredibly creative kind of avalanche happening all the time. It's got themes people create their own costumes

there's a cabaret there's interactive art happening so creativity I think is really close to sexuality in a lot of ways

and that urge to create art is a very sexual thing. So to combine those things I think is really powerful and collaboration, community

spiritedness it's not something that I'm not in it for the money I'm not like a sex club like mogul

all of my events are run by volunteers. It's all incredibly community spirited. Everybody's kind of paying it towards this

goal which is really to create Kinky Salons all over the world and right now we actually do have them

happening in London in Copenhagen, New York all over the world. Which is quite amazingly inspiring

to me. Yes. But not in LA. Well, but you're going to start one. Exactly. And maybe we're going to

be part of it in some way. What do you think Kinky Salon in LA? Yeah, sure. Yeah.

I mean, you know, it's LA isn't chopped liver, right? I mean, we're a great place. I mean, you've had your ups and downs in LA.

Yeah, I mean, when I originally came down here a few years ago thinking, oh maybe we could start Kinky Salon in LA. I was not

greeted in the way that this trip I have been greeted which has been incredible and inspiring and everyone that I've met has been like, yes, let's make this

happen and it's been really great. The last time I came here, people were like, well what is this Kinky Salon? Why is it so different?

Tell me. Like I'm doing a test or something. Like, well, let me try and impress you. You know?

Were these the same people or different people? Different people. LA is so filled with many, many people who are all perverts. So

they're all kind of interested and a lot of them are kind of jaded perverts but we have our enthusiastic perverts too. I guess I just didn't meet

the right people last time I was here and this time I met the right people. Were you with your book last time? No, I mean the book is new.

Yeah, so that's part of it. I think that's part of it is that people connect to me because they have read the book. I have people

come up to me at events like you don't know me but can I hug you please? I read your book and I feel like

you're my best friend now. It's like a one-sided friendship. I'm like, okay, yes, I will receive your hug. Yes, I don't know you.

Write a memoir. I'll read it and then we'll be weirdly detached friends. Everyone should write a memoir. It is interesting that a lot of people

are writing books thanks to Amazon publishing, I should say, their own books. I mean, I've worked with regular publishers but I just

published my own book and it's kind of... Yeah, thank you. All right, Bonobo Way. All the way.

And I quote Polly Superstar in this book and I quote her book in my chapter, Create Your Own Bonoboville.

All about, you know, Kinky Salon as a form of Bonoboville. I just feel there's lots of different types of Bonoboville from, you know,

your regular garden variety swing party that has your, you know, kind of conservative middle class people and that's a Bonoboville

and then you've got your more kind of geeky intellectuals dressed as clowns and having sex with balloons and

that's a, you know, kind of Kinky Salon and the BDSM people cross over 50 shades of BDSM, you know, and

what I guess I just want to get across to people is that it's not some weird only humans do this thing.

The Bonobos do it too. They have their kinks, you know. In fact, speaking of balls, there's like when I, one of my

first encounters, actually my first time I saw a Bonobo live she was rubbing herself with a rubber ball.

She was a rubber fetishist. Yes. Yes, Lana the rubber fetishist. There's a picture of her in the Kindle version

of the Bonobo way. So, yeah, Polly is definitely part of a movement that my husband Max

helped to kind of defend and I guess I could say start, but you know, when... I didn't start

anything. No, who started this storm? I just went to prison for it. That's right. You did go to prison for it. A couple of times.

A couple of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got, I didn't actually get incarcerated, but I got... I met you

right after I got out of prison. Did you ever get raided? You haven't been raided, exactly. You haven't been raided? Okay, I don't know how revolutionary.

One time. The thing is, it's San Francisco, right? So there was one time when the cops were literally wandering by

and saw people going in and kind of knocked on the door and did a Jedi mind trick on my doorman and they suddenly came upstairs and suddenly were all over

the place like taking photos and we were like whoa, we're not actually doing anything illegal. Human beings are allowed to have sex. This

is not illegal. It's the morality police. No, that's an Iran. Right, it doesn't happen. It's San Francisco. So

actually the next day someone from the police department came over. I invited them over. I was like, please can you come back so we can have a conversation about

what happened and what we can do to make that not happen again? Yeah. And he came over and he apologized. He was like, sorry for ruining your party. Oh, that's nice.

And then at the end of it, he said we won't be coming back again. All right. And then he winked and said not in uniform anyway.

Aww. Or maybe one of those fetish uniforms. Police officer fetish. We've told the police, yes, you can

come in, you know, through the front door instead of breaking the door down. Actually, Susan had a different experience. I did. She didn't invite them. They came with

SWAT teams, helicopters. Yeah. Closed all the things. But Susan did do something. She sued them. I did.

She sued them and she won. That made my point with the LAPD. And they never returned. No, they never returned. No, no.

Well, and they helped to finance the opening of one of our

speakers. That is correct. That's great. So, you know, we love you LAPD. And I got a apology from the mayor. From the mayor.

Actually at an LA Press Club party. So that was fun. Yeah, we do lead kind of parallel lives.

It's very interesting and even better that we're now merging. And I feel the merge. You know, we're connecting.

opening up sex culture to the world that is, I think ready now. I think so, too. I think it's ready to

open up to what I call the bonobo way, what you call sex culture. And I think maybe

we're also ready to take some questions and contributions from our lovely studio audience here in the

womb room. So who would like to ascend the stage here? All right.

Okay. I mean, you know, talk amongst yourselves. Figure it out. Okay. Here. Oh, here she comes. Onyx. Onyx in her mini.

Yeah. Come on up here, Onyx. Yes. Okay. Give her a microphone.

Onyx. Welcome to the Dr. Susan Block Show. And tonight we're featuring Polly

Polly Superstar and all of our books. And you've got a cute little dress on.

And you came here with Dark Phoenix. This is your first time here. Your virgin time in my cherry pops.

Pop, pop, pop. Look at me surrounded by virgins. It's very hot in the womb room.

So, okay. So what do you think of all this sex culture talk? Yeah. Talking to the microphone.

I love it. I'm actually obsessed with it myself. You were obsessed. Oh, okay. It's my life. And you are

a professional. I'm a sensual dominatrix. I was trained in financial domination. You were trained

in financial domination. I was trained. Who trained you? I can't really explain.

His name was Master Wolf. Master Wolf? Yeah. Master Wolf. So I got trained.

I started as a submissive. Okay. And I was in a polyamorous relationship. So you had three sims?

Or did you actually have different We had three sims, yes. And sometimes we turned to four sims and five sims. We had a lot of

little party gatherings privately, of course. Okay. Very fun. And so

do you still do that? Absolutely. I'm actually throwing a huge party. Oh, tell us about that.

So I was part of a secret sex society. A secret sex society. Yeah. And it was really amazing

and I had lots of good experiences and I was brought in as a creative director and I kind of found out

that the guy who was running it wasn't at all knowledgeable of BDSM. Didn't care about the rules and didn't understand the

dynamics and I just kind of like you know, stopped myself and was like, you know what, this isn't what I want to be about. I'm really

about this. I do this, I don't just do this at this party. I do this in my life and it was a shame and so now I'm just like

before I actually got into this world, I was part of the underground music world. So now the underground music world, they're just kind of like

hey, what's going on with these parties? So are you a singer? I am starting to sing. I do

DJ and I produce and I go to school for that. So yeah, I mean, you know, the whole interaction of art, music,

sex, it's like pervasive these days, huh? Yeah. Sex culture is what you're talking about. Exactly.

Exactly. So, you know, I mean, I... Wait a minute. Being from Rome. Yes.

When parties were six months long Yes. And now we got them down to 24 hours. I don't know about you

new people. It's true. There have been crazy sex parties going on for a long time, but then they kind of stopped.

I mean, I think that the Judeo-Christian mentality kind of put sex parties under cover and I think the

you know, the Greeks and the Romans like yourself, you know, they had their sex parties, you know, and and then those people got

demonized by Judeo-Christian culture and now they're coming out again. Actually, Berlusconi, the ex-President

of Italy, still has them. Well, there you go. And he's a good Christian. Catholic man. Papa loves Berlusconi, of course.

He gives a lot of money to the church. Actually, the Pope's pretty cool. Who knows? The Pope might endorse sex parties. He's already pretty much said

that the church should be open to homosexuals or something like that. So, you know, I think there is this

movement towards opening up to different kinds of sexuality, even while certain people, of course, are bombing and beheading each other, you know, in

a backlash against the forward sex culture movement. I don't think the Catholic church or the Pope wants to go out of business.

And they have a whole gay faction there. They do. They have a whole gay faction. And that's the point, is they're realizing they can't maintain their gay faction

in the closet anymore. Because social media, you know, general media is just in your bathroom. And in

the Vatican bathroom, too. So, you know, you can run, but you can't hide. The only guys left behind are Apple. Right. So,

you know, I keep trying to get situated here, right? Trying to get my high heels on here. Okay, so do you have

a question about how to run sex parties or how to be a great sex culture revolutionary? I don't really have

questions more so. I actually did nightclub promotions for five, six years. So, you know it all, baby. Not that I

know it all. I'm a student. I learn every day. But I've actually, I'm very knowledgeable of throwing events. And I'm just basically, I'm just incorporating

my template into the party. And I'm just incorporating this whole dynamic. I think it's beautiful. I think it's very artistic. And actually

I want to bring it together. A lot of people that I know, they're shunned by it. They're like, they're like, oh no. Too, they're not open. So, people you know

are not open. So, maybe you have a question about how to deal with those people. Yes. How do you deal with people that shun

you? Well, they don't come to the parties. I mean, that's why, that's why I'm talking about it. Exactly.

That's why I do a That's what I say. But what if you're trying to promote your parties and you're dealing with

like Facebook or, you know, places that shun your promotion and you want to try to get the word out. I mean, the shunning goes on

in all different levels of communication. Trying to promote an underground sex party is a challenging thing to do

because people have privacy issues on social networking. And so, you don't want to say, hey, you want to come to this sex party and like tag, tag, tag your pervert friends

and then have their grandma see, like, what are you doing? Why are you being tagged on this event for the thing? You need to come over. We need to talk about this.

There's actually definitely a way to do it through social media, but it's not where you don't give too much information. You nearly

lead them in and I have a whole application process and I get to know who they are and then I do a private

I do private meeting with them. Do you like snakes? I don't mind them.

You don't pet her like, I mean, you could, but be careful with her head. You want to hold her? I know, we told

the pooping story. I don't think she'll be on you. I hope she doesn't. There are lots of different ways to get people in the door

for sex parties and particularly if you're going the route that has kind of applications and kind of exclusive vibe,

then you can definitely be a bit more secretive on the outside. One of the things that I think I love about Kinky Salon is it's incredibly inclusive.

Our entry policy is one giant yes. You can be old, you can be big, you can be queer, you can be weird looking, we don't

care, we're like, come on in. You know, one of my most famous one of my most fabulous evenings was when in the play

space there was a woman who was nine months pregnant. She had originally called me when she was like five months pregnant. Like, is this getting weird?

Shall I still come? I'm getting kind of fat. Like, I don't know. Is it weird? Is it going to turn people off? And I was like, anyone who has an issue with a pregnant woman being sexual

can leave. I don't give a fuck. Like, you're supposed to be here. So it was this one night when we had this pregnant woman who was actually it was a Christmas party. She was actually dressed as Mary,

which was kind of funny. Oh wow, that's great. But she was in the play space. All the pregnant woman fetishes. And then

we had a couple who were little people that showed up that night too. So it was like this, like, weird, like, wow, like. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. You know, Master D is here and he has a fetish for my snake. So he can hold her.

And let's get shadow and Chelsea up here and of course we're going to, before this talk to everybody and say hi and see

if you have any questions. Okay, shadow, you have an outfit that we want to see. Oh wow, that outfit is just awesome. Look at this outfit, Shadow. Woo

Hot, hot, hot. Yeah, I got it. Okay. I'm Chelsea. Hi, Chelsea.

Hi. I have a question. I have a couple of questions. You know, you both, Dr. Susie and yourself, Paulie, have for a long time

you have this really great way of like doing kind of a save the planet thing but you're not like in a messiah you're really both down to earth gritty

nitty gritty ladies, women. And I just, you know, admire you both and I had a couple of questions though about the

book. I haven't gotten to read it all. So I wondered if there, is there like a spoiler about what you found in the bedroom like when you open the door

your dad's friend at the very beginning it said that you saw. Oh no, there's no, that's just a little self-contained. It was just kind of a

memoir, like a little memory moment to like bring out that idea that there was some tension. It was dramatic.

It was dramatic. I can only imagine what had happened. Uh-huh. But yeah, my father's

friend had died. That was the original reason that he was crying behind the door and she had actually died in a hot air balloon accident

which was really tragic and he was she was actually someone that my father loved very much so it was it was really intense part of my

childhood when she died. And these hot air balloon rides that he did were just so inspiring to you but your mother

was also in an accident. She was. Hot air ballooning is actually really, really dangerous. Like people don't realize. I've done it a few times.

Max won't let me do it though. The captain will not let me do it. It's really dangerous. Don't tell him anything bad. Although I have to say

that yeah, your mom had a little accident. She fell from 50 feet in the air and landed on her head. She survived.

She survived. She survived. She was really, really, really high up in the air. The balloon came down and there's a weather

formation called a thermal which is basically where the warm air against the land creates a bubble and goes pops up in the air and as the balloon

goes over it makes the balloon rise suddenly and if you're coming into land and you go over a thermal and you're trying to get out the basket at that time you're a bit

screwed. I'm so sorry. Well, it's just like you're both legends. We've got to understand this is really

a lot of history in this room. And we have our books in my lab. The books are here and we're

going to come back in just a moment because we're about to take a little break but we're all going to come back here so don't

anybody go anywhere. And don't come yet. You just stole my entry into the commercial but that's okay,

Chelsea. Chelsea's one of the therapists here at the Dr. Susan Block Institute and so if you need to talk privately

or webcam you can talk to Chelsea or one of our other therapists. Actually Dark Phoenix is also a therapist.

We have boy therapists and girl therapists. And in between therapists. We have all gender

types. And so we're going to come back with our featured guest tonight Polly Superstar who's the author

of this wonderful book. During the break you should download it. We have a link to Amazon and read at least the first couple pages

because we're going to come back and we're going to talk about it some more. While you're at it get a copy of the bonobo way brothers and sisters.

Get in touch with your genetic kissing cousins. They can find the link on Twitter too if they follow

at Radio Susie One or at Dr. Susie. That's a lot of letters but you can find the links. I'm sure you'll find your way

brothers and sisters. You'll find your way through the bonobo way and to Polly Sex Culture Revolutionary and while I'm at the book business

I'm going to say you should also get Sex at Dawn. Christopher Ryan and Casilda Jeffa.

And this is a little more esoteric and also big fucking John.

John Law. The tales of the San Francisco cacophony society which is the society

that is a little connected with kinky salons and begat burning man but what begat kinky society

was the suicide club which I was a member of and that's where we climbed the bridge and then my snakes shat on John

and you know the rest is history. We keep making history. So yeah dirty tequila

coming up soon bonoboville communion okay we're going to do it we're going to have some fun we're going to talk more and do more

and so you know don't come yet and don't go away we'll be right back. Okay.

Hi I'm Dr. Susan Block and I've just written a new book called The Bonobo Way inspired by my love for the make love not war

great apes you know the ones who have a lot of sex and a bonobo sutra of positions including face to face

but it's not just how bonobos have sex it's how they use sex to prevent murder and war really

they're the only great apes that have never been seen killing each other they practice what I call peace through pleasure

with the females gently dominating the very happy very sexually satisfied males bonobos are special partly because

they just are and partly because they're very very close to us almost 99% genetically similar to us

when it comes to being human even being humane bonobos can teach us so much which brings

me to us and more specifically to you is your inner bonobo longing to swing free

would you like to tap into the hot natural sex energy within you that you would so you can better enjoy the pleasures in life

and cope with the pain you know the pain and have more orgasmic organic sustainable sex

who doesn't want that greater lust greater trust and better anger management and who couldn't use a little bit of that these days

so get the book learn the bonobo way you'll be glad you did then you'll want to join bonobo bill a new global village

for bonobo lovers and friends and one last thing the real bonobos are highly endangered so a portion of all book sales go to bonobo

conservation groups working to save the wild bonobos from extinction read the bonobo way and learn why this could be the most important

eco sexual movement of our times and improve your love life time to get dirty the wildest most explosive

most delicious tequila drink ever because you know deep down we're all a little dirty and now

here she is got a bed full of female poker to here my featured guest is Polly

superstar and she is the author of this fabulous book you got to get maybe you downloaded it on the break

if not you got to do it now Polly superstar sex culture revolutionary and

and I also got onyx here and shadow shadow take off your fur

I know you look like a bonobo I like the fur idea and the other apes like that and Chelsea of course is here

with her blonde fur on her head and so you know we got a little community going here we were just talking a little bit about community

and the whole sort of zeitgeist of that or something community sex

culture revolutionary community yeah I think the thing that really sets communities apart

is the idea that we're actually friends and that people are loving each other there's so many weird

kind of shallow sex communities that are anonymous that you're really just going to them to get your rocks off and you're not really interested in getting to know people

those can be fun too they can be fun there's no aspect of sex culture that's wrong

and you ran a group called the wet parties or what were they called club wet kiss nevermind okay sorry

yeah club kiss is another event that I've thrown which is more of a kind of heteronormative swinger party because there's just a need for it

and there weren't that many people that had like safe spaces and so people were having these experiences and going to clubs where they were like

oh yeah I don't want to come to your parties because I'm not really into sex clubs and I'd be like well where have you been and they'd tell me and I'd be like

oh well maybe if you tried coming it would be a bit different because there are those clubs that you go to where it's like

the guy's wearing the towels slightly too small to fit all the way around their hips you know kind of chasing you around trying to jack off on you all the time

that's where his banana comes from and there are some people who don't like coming to Kimkey Salon because they want those guys chasing them

around jacking off on them they're like where is the circle jerk around me I'm an exhibitionist I want this there are different kinds of bonobo

but we do really enjoy the Kimkey Salon aesthetic because it does mix the body the mind and the soul

you know you're connecting on many different levels and it's true some of these other arrangements such as you know glory holes right

those are fun right we love glory holes but I mean talk about disconnecting from your body

from your mind or even parts of your body from the rest of your body I mean there's all kinds of ways to connect and people do have hang ups and sometimes

they can't connect fully so they connect partially but Kimkey Salon is a way to connect you know through humor

and through art and through sex yeah that's cool alright so yeah

so Shadow look at this outfit who got you this outfit Master D

don't point with your microphone it's bad manners yeah he got me the outfit so what do you think

of BDSM and you know the whole sort of I guess fad of 50 shades

and just BDSM fashion and how does that fit in with the Kinky Salon aesthetic

excuse me while I straighten out my president right here well you know I think that when things culture changes

and new things come into being and you know now we have like hot topic where they have like stuff that was really difficult to get a hold of

when I was a teenager looking for that kind of stuff and now it's like you know studded collars and all that stuff

it's just in a mall I mean it's just so so very mainstream and so I think the mainstreaming of these kinds of

sexual practices is a good thing because it makes it more accessible to people and it makes it normalizes it it makes it less scary

I'm not sure that 50 shades of gray is the healthiest model of BDSM first of all it's terribly written I mean they can't

I disagree with the whole sense of this together it's not I couldn't even finish it but 50 shades the musical is hilarious it's really

really good can I recommend that it's playing now at some theater 50 shades the musical is hilarious it's a spoof

you know it is terrible and it makes you wonder why the terrible part how did that connect and I don't know if we can answer that question

but it certainly became a big success I think the more appropriate movie would be the secretary would be close to BDSM that is actually however

I must give credit to the 50 shades of gray because according to a documentary that I watched rope sales

in New York went up 50% after the book came out which women all started getting involved and getting interested in becoming well

well known and well versed in understanding their own sexuality and that expanded your stable of possible females absolutely

did you get some positives but there are a few negatives where you have these people pretending to be masters because

they go and watch the movie and then they go oh I know exactly how to do it and they'll take some unsuspecting girl home

tie her up and the girl will suffocate whatever you know she'll die be careful don't do the strangles they're not trained in the field

so you can't just go and watch a movie and suddenly become a master like Evie is a trained constrictor actually but you should not do

Evie is beautiful she is hopefully it'll generate interest if people are turned on by it and if they're enjoying it

then it'll generate interest in the scene and people will go to workshops and you know like that kind of stuff is happening and it's

becoming more mainstream which means that it's not as scary I mean BDSM is really scary and edgy for most people it's terrifying

you have extremes I mean on both sides I've been a master for a little over 18 years so I mean

I believe that you have extremes on both sides on one side it's excellent you'll introduce a whole new slew

of people interested in BDSM and rope and the many facets of BDSM and on the other side you have a whole slew of crazies

that are going to be thinking that they can do these things but you got more crazy violent people in your neighborhood bar usually

so hey this is an attempt at communication here I mean the 50 Shades has entered

the mainstream I guess and like most mainstream entertainment it's kind of schlocky

and it's sort of like daytime television what do you want so okay we don't like it too much but hey I

had to call a chapter in my book 50 Shades of Bonobos so obviously I'm trying to get on the

coattails of those billions of dollars that your fellow British woman is making you know

so okay so speaking of bonobos yes yeah just done what you were talking about do you think that the 50 Shades if it can help

propel this movement forward each one of you is one of the bigger heavy hitters in this sexual movement right now

I mean your scene LA has changed I don't know if you attribute any of that to if you've met Gabriela Cardova or you haven't met her yet

hey Gabriela where are you I invited you where the fuck are you oh London couldn't have taken a

you know a jet okay her work has gone well in LA now what the hell is going on with England banning

all these different forms of BDSM that's the craziest thing ever okay can you explain that no

don't hold me responsible I'm an American citizen damn that's what Max says I try to hold him responsible for Burlesconi

I think it's specifically porn and so it's not banning things if you do privately in your own home but it is

banning the filming of these things which isn't going to really affect anything because all the porn is made in LA anyway so too much leakage it's just England being

English I guess it's a really bizarre thing I have a stiff upper lip instead of where stiffness would be more appreciated

in the trousers I know you guys need therapy bad we have a special London number

that's on our website anyway we're here in Bonoboville which is kind of

what is this talk about sex life Taylor oh we have a caller

it's better be good to interrupt my Bonoboville community okay we're going to put is this a girl or a guy Taylor you never can tell

are you so close you make late texts you would go for a guy I know you go both ways

a little bit don't you okay hello Taylor are you there talk

about sex life I'm a little nervous about this okay I haven't even given out the number by the way because we've been so busy

but our number is 310560 no 568 0066 there's a lot of zeros but that you know yeah

we have a funny number actually it has three sixes as is the number of people I follow on Twitter 666

did you know that I'm a little devil yep okay Taylor hello hi oh okay you're a guy

hi Taylor how you doing hello miss block no you can call me Susan or Susie

or Dr. Susie or Dr. Bull but don't call me miss block okay you can even call me honey

you forget my name but not miss block okay okay thank you Taylor

what did you want to talk about I was curious what are your opinions of incest among consenting adults ooh now there's a

community that is kind of controversial among consenting adults like brother and sister or adult son and mom

or adult daughter and dad well any particular group of consenting adults any group of consenting adults

among relations yeah well I don't know should I take that or should you take that

I think you should take that it's a tough area to venture into but I'll take it and I'll say

you know philosophically I can't be against it but it's very taboo and I would not recommend it

okay okay thank you who you having sex with yeah

are you having sex with a family member or thinking about it just wondering I have had a

I have had I have made out with one of my cousins with one of your cousins they were kissing cousins

in France there's no problem with that I thought we were talking more the taboo there's no problem in that in Kansas don't worry about it

why don't you call me and I'll be your cousin yeah Chelsea likes role play

incest is a very very powerful taboo it's a powerful taboo and a lot of people are into it

in terms of fantasy a lot of people role play it a lot of people just enjoy using those names daddy mommy

you know I call you all brothers and sisters what is that about I must be fucked up seriously

there's a kissing cousin thing it is taboo and I don't recommend the close connection

nuclear family because we're all kind of nuclear then of course if you go a few generations back and everybody

lived in one room and everybody slept in one bed there was a lot of stuff going on there was stuff going on

I'm telling you Walt Disney created adulthood so before that there were no children

you can always join the Mormons or something that's a certain kind of sexual community that we're not really even talking about here but there's all kinds of

sexual communities and the whole family thing for me it's a little bit but cousins

that's okay step people and there's half brothers and sisters and

you know shit happens and I don't just mean my snake pooping on John I mean let's just say it's not like murder

it's not like doing it to a child it's not like Bill Cosby being and I know it's alleged

okay and I'm also promoting my piece which appeared on Counterpunch about Bill Cosby's sleep fetish nice very astute article thank you

and I'm not excusing him at all just trying to explain that sometimes it would benefit for us to learn about fetishes learn about these things

so that we don't do things non-consensually so that we can learn to do these things consensually and there are a lot of people with sleep fetishes

and you know the guy I like to sleep a lot right you do and some people like to sleep

and wake up to that there you go happened before yeah

dark Phoenix a lot of people are relating to the whole sleep fetish thing but not the non-consensual thing drugging and all that stuff

hey try to come to terms with your desire to be prince charming to sleeping beauty and do it consensually folks

and this is also the holiday season when you go to eat at Aunt Myrtle's house and Aunt Myrtle is really hot

really hot you want to eat more than her pumpkin pie and then what are you going to do you're going to call us because

you don't want to mess up your relationship with Aunt Myrtle or the pumpkin pie because that can happen the cousin thing

okay are you still there did we completely over yeah is your cousin there

no whether or not it was wrong to no you won't have a kid with leukemia from kissing her

but yeah the genetic thing can be a problem so don't have kids and be prepared if you're going to get together more

with your cousin that people are going to shun you this is a form of shunning that will go on

if you do it openly you better think about it you're going to have some difficulties with your family community there

but maybe you want to sometimes love conquers all thank you yes

thank you for not calling me miss block and you follow me on twitter wow have you been what's your handle

what's your handle on twitter what's your handle yeah I'm going to tell you what his handle is he's not going to say

you're in the closet he's not all about being public because his thing is he's like George Bataille

you know transgression secret secret secret okay darling be careful don't do anything

non consensual it sounds like you're not well I don't and we haven't really done anything we just made out I just didn't know whether

it would be okay to go further with it or we should just sort of not okay with who with his cousin

well I don't know if it's okay with her it's okay with me but it might not be okay with her mom I would imagine

don't surprise her with it I mean you've had a little bit of experience with this I have yeah it's in the book

there's a story in the book which is actually a really intense story and it's really pivotal and in my just after my father

died I did actually have a sexual experience with my half brother and he was quite a bit older than me but it was it was more just

it was it was less healthy it was more like kind of a fucked up situation because my father had just died and so it was kind of like

the way that we were expressing our grief in a weird way so I think that family is really intense and when you are raised

with people and when they're really close to you you just have a really intense karma with them there's no there's no escaping them they're not like friends that you can just be like well that person sucked

so I'm just gonna right you know or that experience was difficult so I'm just gonna pretend it didn't happen when it's family like makes everything

way more meaningful and you can't escape from it you can't escape from it because it's in your family

you know it's not like an ex that you can be like okay they moved away and now I never have to think about them again they're gonna be at every funeral and every wedding

in your family forever you know yeah family sticks around more but sometimes you can escape them and on the other hand

sometimes people that aren't family come back like karma so always try to be a good person with whatever you do

you know I mean try your best and then you just have to deal with whatever so okay you know you got a little bit of advice

try to do your best just do your best and then deal with it you're dealing with another human being

this is the problem with sex even making out even making out although like I said you won't have any hemophiliac

kids that way so you could catch a cold you could get Ebola okay

so you know Viacundias let us know what happens cause you know if anything else happens cause we're all ears and we all have incest fantasies

right take care bye daddy okay

oh my god I'm terrible and I haven't even done bonoboville communion are we ready for bonoboville communion

yes okay our sponsoring alcohol is dirty tequila woohoo we usually also

have Ron DeGeramy rum but we drank it all and they're supposed to bring some back and um oh dark phoenix is pouring

now Chelsea has her green stuff I think it's wheat gross juice it's my power shake it's delicious by the way

oh benefits if you purchase this portion of the proceeds will go to the bonoboville well it stained my breasts

look at these cute sharp glasses those are cute we'll give you some vodka with yours absolutely

whoa that is overflowing and I was going to give this to my guest because she is in pink

don't drink it yet I'm just arranging it I think it matches my outfit it does

thanks for thinking of that great outfit by the way do you have yours here I'll let you have this

should I be afraid of the dirty tequila just like the snake you never know okay so now

we're going to do the ritual which basically is very simple it involves

the body of Christ or the goddess or you know Krishna

or Allah or whatever body you want to infuse with great power and this is the salt and

this salt is applied to your body or the body of a person next to you or near you

and then you lick the salt from the body and then you have the blood

for all you vampire fans of course Dark Phoenix was brought up as a Catholic

altar boy what religion were you brought you were kind of liberal 70s I was raised church of England

church of England the most benign religion that exists it's basically singing songs and they're like well there's this book

and there's this Jesus thing but it's mainly just all you know kind of stories and you know like myths for life it's not really

don't worry about it too much okay well did you do communion you didn't do communion

oh well see you were missing out I never did because I was never like confirmed there was like a little ritual you had to go through and I didn't want to do it

this is the ritual you are missing this is the ritual you are missing well I'm not going to miss it this time exactly you're here

okay so who wants to start I mean you're going to start okay how we do this is

you bear a sensitive body part we recommend the nipples although we do

you know we are open to other body parts as well if you would like to I would definitely like to do my nipples

okay so you're going to have to take that whole dress off Jesus okay let's have a little music for a little draw look at this

Onyx look at you you are quite the little body no wonder you don't have any questions

yeah wow look at you love those panties

this is a g-strict panty boy check it out yes very very nice very lovely and very lovely natural

petite boobies okay so let's see so you're definitely ready and

and you are ready to be the kind of alter for others

to lick and drink and then you will lick and drink but you have revealed your body first

I myself am pretty thirsty so so I mean this is all

you're okay with everybody kind of devouring your boobs yeah okay can we get sure on microphone with that okay absolutely

I love it when ladies lick my tits would you like to take your first drink off of Onyx's tits um get in the middle here

how does it work I'm confused Onyx is going to lick her nipple okay and I'll show you from this side

first for Susie Susie you're the expert I need training I'm an expert in bonobovil

and I'm going to try to keep the hat on okay so first what we do okay is we get the altar this is the altar in the church of bonobovil

and yeah but you might not want to obstruct the view of the altar okay

altar boy there didn't have to be an altar boy if you're going to hold the microphone don't worry

okay so lean back okay and now first we prepare the altar okay

very nice very nice preparation this makes the salt stick too and you don't want to put too much salt

because you have to lick it all up okay so you want to kind of massage the altar a little bit in the back

and then here we go salty you missed a spot oh realm I don't know

here well done okay and now uh

bachayim sante boner uh what are you saying

actually you're not supposed to drink in Islam right so you don't say anything but cheers and happy holidays

Merry Christmas Happy Hanukkah Happy Ramadan God willing that's what you say God willing God willing we will enter

a good year yes happy Saturnalium awesome year okay our altar is behaving

herself very well and now it is it's a beautiful altar by the way I like it very beautiful altar

would you like to partake sure she's just trying to get the microphone out of the way so she can lick it

oh she got a good lipstick thing on there oh yeah the altar has been

decorated yes definitely and there we go and your pink concoction

dirty tequila the noboville communion alright we have

worshiped at the altar of onyx onyx what's your last name I believe it's her

muse onyx muse that's a great last name gosh I wish I had that last name superstars another good last name

block kind of whatever okay so now you could have some well no you have to have an altar though

where's your altar well okay so here we go I'm gonna move around here

and you can have her as an altar this is by the way shadow cumby

what is it cumby right okay ladies shadow cumby

we have all naturals tonight and some nipple rings for those of you who are listening

by the way you listen free to this show and now's around the time you want to pay to watch live on drsuzy.tv

tonight was a show with a lot of chitter chatter but now we have our mouths full okay some of us

have our mouths full of titty and the noboville communion is underway yeah

you think this could be a kinky salon ritual absolutely it's just a little salt and really whatever drink you like

and bodies you need some bodies I mean you know we actually do have a bit of a ritual at kinky salon it's like a pledge of allegiance

should we do that we're drunk and ready for it so everybody place your your hand on your heart

your right hand on your heart and then place your left hand on your neighbor's buttock and and then

and then repeat after me in pervertude and servitude

in pervertude and servitude united by our dubious morals united by our dubious morals

well dressed and ready for action some of us aren't quite dressed well dressed and ready for action

call us perverts for we are proud call us perverts for we are proud Proud perverts!

Amen and amen women. I like that. I believe it's Shadow's turn. All you need is a button, a bun.

That's a tweetable. Shadow? Gotta tweet that one. Oh yeah.

Look at my altar boy. He's kneeling at the altar. Keeping it organized. He's amazing. He's magic.

So Shadow is putting a lot of salt on there, right? She likes it salty. She does. Yep, there we go.

She did a good job. Very good, very good. Susan, now it's my turn. Oh yes, come forward.

You wanna lick or be the altar? No, no. Yeah, we take boys. What boys wanna be on altar?

Yeah, before you lick, you have to be an altar. You know, boys are shyer than girls these days. There was a time when boys were not as shy, but now boys are shy.

You need to talk into microphones. I know, it's drinking time. The shy ones are so cute. The shy ones are cute.

And it's weird how there's all this stuff right now where they have books that are designed to teach people how to be more confident and they do weird things.

They say mean things to you in order to make you notice them or something. It's like, what's that? Oh, that's the whole, yeah, seduction.

The art of seduction thing. I don't get it, because to me, if someone's really kind of cute and shy and not confident,

I think that's really adorable if someone's really being real. I definitely like corrupting. We don't like hand lines.

I mean confidence is nice too, but the weird... Turn down the music a little, please. I don't think our staff hears this.

We're actually telling you something you should be doing. Turn down the music, please. I think they're doing

Bonoboville Communion back there. Stage one. There you go. That's turned off, but that's okay.

We're getting the hang of it. Does anyone want a banana? I'd love a banana. Just to show the guys what we would do

if you had more courage, right? How do I do it in public? Here, here, wait. She's reaching for that banana.

She's an eager little Bonobo. She begged for it. She just bit it right away. I thought she would suck it a little bit.

Wow, she's a hungry girl. She wants that. Master Dee, you don't train your slaves. She's not my slave.

Oh, she's your girlfriend. That's the thing. He has slaves and then a girlfriend. It's very confusing, I know.

Shadow also has two lovers, and one is extremely aggressive, and the other one is extremely submissive. It's nice to have variety.

That's one of the lovely things about polyamory. She has an amazing variety. There's a lot of polyamory going on right now in different ways,

and a lot of sex work, and it's all just interesting stuff. You've got to hold up for your banana now, Shadow. Oh, thank you.

Can you show us? Banana holder. I'm just eating it. She's just hungry, pole girl.

I'm hungry. She's like, sure, Ali, a banana for you. You seem like you should eat a little. You're a little thin.

You need more bananas. We're going to wind up the show in just about, like, soon. But I just wanted to offer

some kind of climactic possibilities if anyone would like to, and I should offer this to all, would like to

ride the Sybian! Woo! Oh, that's great. Oh, that's a little bit...

No. Listen to the pandemonium. I have flashbacks to the time that that girl was riding the Sybian

and there was silence. Oh, I remember that. I remember that. That was amazingly hysterical.

How are you doing? Oh, oh, oh. That was rare. Mostly there is noise

in gender by riding the Sybian. Have you ever ridden a Sybian? No, I've always wanted to. Would you like to?

Not tonight. Have you ever ridden a Sybian? You have. What would you say about it?

You know, it's just kind of those things. You just try them once and if you like it, you'll like it. I guess you don't.

I think Sybians are kind of weak. Weak? Weak? You mean weak like bad

or weak like not vibrating enough? Somebody was doing it wrong. What is the weakness? Weak like not vibrating enough.

Not vibrating enough. You've been on the wrong Sybian, I believe. I think I have. I think the batteries were out.

Oh, my batteries are fully charged. Fully charged. You would love to see someone on a Sybian. I'm very worried.

I'm into voyeurism, so I love watching people. She also likes directing people. I also love directing people.

Talking to the banana, please. Alright, so, would you like to ride the Sybian, Chelsea? I actually can't.

Oh, that's right. That's right. Okay, would you like to ride the Sybian? No, not tonight.

I don't like Sybians. I find them too aggressive. I think you're the best candidate tonight. Alright, Max.

That department is not working well. Now, Dark Phoenix, as a boy, you have ridden the Sybian. I have.

Are you going to ride it first? I was riding the Sybian while getting my dick sucked. It was quite pain.

It was. I saw that. Go! I guess

he might do it if you help him out with it, but I don't know. Oh, they just wanted him to do it and they would sit there and eat bananas.

Right, okay. Well, I don't know if we can expect that, even the greatest stud.

I'm up for anything. It's so good. It's so good. If these girls are not lined up

to suck your cock while you're in the Sybian, I definitely would be down for that. He has to earn it. I would say he has earned it,

in my opinion. This man, gentlemen, is amazing. What? They're asking me questions.

What are you doing? Alright, so we're looking for a climactic moment. Okay.

That's only if he serves me. I guess that you're going to ride the Sybian and

what do you think about that? Have you seen a man ride a Sybian? I've never seen a man ride a Sybian. That's exciting right there.

Never having seen a man ride a Sybian. Now, for the men out there who are not interested in seeing a man ride a Sybian,

actually this man will have his dick sucked on the Sybian. You might be interested in that. What?

Your snake? No, I'm talking about his snake. I don't know. Is this what's going to happen?

He's getting ready. He's getting ready. Let's bring that forward. Bring it over here.

It's kind of heavy. It's not that heavy. It's this thing. It's been wrapped anew.

What is that proposition that we have to be in conjunction with? Yes, yes. What is it? I forget what it is.

The condom one. There's all kinds of rules. We're complying with all of them Los Angeles.

All the rules we're complying with. Protection, devices. Yes, means yes. You need to have a lawyer and a notary public

when you're doing that. Who wants to do the control? I think my guest should do the controls. Would you mind if I let my guest do the

my special guest, Polly, would you like to do it? Oh, me? I'll twiddle some knobs. Yes, twiddle some knobs.

Well, is she well versed in Sibia? Oh, I'm so glad you're taking your socks off for this. Really? Start it with nothing here.

Okay, here we go. Rotation. Chelsea, have you volunteered for being the fluff girl?

In some ways, yes. Some ways. Can you outline those ways so we don't go beyond your boundaries? One out of three holes is game.

Okay. All right. Okay, this is a game we play. The game. Okay.

Here he goes. Could you take your clothes off, though, or something? Oh, I see. That's involved, yes.

I'll show my clothes. Yeah. All right. I do.

Do you like to be entertained by a strip tease in a Sybian play? Yes, it's fabulous. What a way to spend a Saturday night in LA.

We do have all ages. Actually, I think we don't have all body types because I think all these bodies are gorgeous. Actually.

But we do have all ages. Mm-hmm. Fantastic. Go ahead, yeah.

You're doing good. Strip tease. Yeah. Okay.

Nipple rings. Nipple rings, okay. Stepping out of her. She wore the hippie outfit because she was a child of the 70s.

She actually was going to change, but I told her, you know, it would remind you of growing up. That's so sweet.

Thank you for making me feel at home with her hippie dress. But this makes me feel even more at home. Right here. Look at that.

He shouldn't actually come all over the books. If he came on the books, I think it would be like a blessing. You did a whole thing about burning your books.

He's also a fire master, by the way. Oh. I think you should take your shirt off, though. All right.

You want to take your headset off. I think that would make it easier. Yeah. Okay.

So now we have Polly Superstar on the controls of the Sybian. Okay. And Dark Phoenix is riding the Sybian.

This makes the rotation go on, which doesn't really do that much because we don't have an insertion thing going on here. He's just riding the top of it.

But this is the vibration which does create a very exciting sensation in the mail. Okay.

I'm starting slowly. Yes. Shadow. This is your moment.

You're supposed to be observing. Okay. Come on over here. You know you want to... That's okay.

Okay. And Chelsea is using her one available orifice to

bring joy. And Polly is running the controls.

I'm twiddling knobs. Kind of give it a just slow beginning here.

Little foreplay. Okay. And Evie is participating. She is rolling around. Shadow

in her lacy lingerie. Very lovely lacy lingerie. Watch this dick sucking lesson. Okay.

I'm watching. Our lesson. Here we are, brothers and sisters, broadcasting live from the womb room

on Doctors Susie Speak Easy in the soul of downtown LA. What are you pointing to? Hey, come on over here. Oh, Tammy, come on up here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going into overtime, so you can't fuck around. You've got to just come up here and be part of the eye candy. Come on, stand over here.

Just be beautiful. That's right. This is Tammy, who is the chauffeur to Kings and Shaw's and

yeah, Ayatollah's. Yep. Okay. She is. She really is. She drives the Mercedes and she fixes

their motorcycles. So we're having a guy obviously, riding, speaking of machines that go somewhere.

This is a Sybian. This is a Sybian. And usually it's the woman that's on the Sybian and we have all kinds of beautiful women

in our womb room tonight, including our feature guest Polly Superstar and our lovely guest

Onyx, Muse and Shadow, Cumbie and and of course, Chelsea

Demoiselle Chelsea Bonobo and she is suckin cock.

Right. Okay. Now's the time when you want to join Brothers and Sisters. Join Bonoboville. Join Dr.

Susan Block.TV. Polly Superstar is on the controls and she has taken her time. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

And Dark Phoenix is getting quite hard, you know, and he didn't start with that. We know he's not on Viagra. None of that shit. So he, you know,

he's just feeling the vibe, feeling the goodness, feeling the warmth of the womb room, feeling the community, the sex

community, the sex culture. Oh, salt now. Okay. We're going to, yeah. We're going to do communion, right? She actually didn't do her communion. Whoa.

She has green juice. It did have a slight effect. Okay.

I don't know if you want to drink this green juice while you're sucking, but go ahead, you know, you do what you want to do. The whole thing is going to become

stronger. The paparazzi are all around us. Yeah, baby. There's something to watch.

Yeah. I mean, you too could get your dick sucked by a hot blonde at the Speakeasy. If you volunteer to sit on the subium.

Yeah. All right. And wait, I got a, can we get that mic, you want to hold it for Dark Phoenix? Let him, I'd like

to get a report here, journalistically. How you doing? My ass is vibrating. That's nice.

I think that's nice. Oh, it's lovely. And how's Chelsea doing? Chelsea is doing a fantabulous job.

Can you hear it in my voice? Yeah. Okay. Well, you can come on our books. No.

Yeah. Before I forget, I'm doing a shout out to Carol Queen. She would appreciate that we're doing it during an asshole

vibration because her first show she did, she stuck her whole hand of Robert's ass on my show.

Yeah. That fisting. And then on the back porch. The back porch. Those crazy kids.

And then all the neighbors were calling and saying, is everything all right? How's it going there, Chels? Yeah.

Should I give her a little whack with my juxt, leather, finger, flogger? Yes.

I call it a finger flogger because it fits on my finger, but it's really a key chain. But it's very handy, you know. Do you like flogging?

Is that not your thing? It's not really my thing. My thing. I like that you wore party panties,

Chelsea. Very nice. Very nice. All right. Can we have a hand, brothers and sisters, so to

speak, for Dark Phoenix and Chelsea Demoiselle. All right. We're not

necessarily doing this to completion. This is not a porn movie. And besides, we're going to go into party. One over time.

How are you feeling now? I'm vibrating. Did you ever get it going all the way up?

Oh, we didn't go all the way up. I feel like I'm at Six Flags right now. It's difficult because your hat was in the way, so I couldn't

see him. I'm sorry my hat got in the way of communication. Here we go. I'll lean back. Get the books on me.

Go ahead. Now we're going to go for a little more communication now. You always need to communicate. I can't tell because for me that was

really too much, but clearly you're enjoying that. Take it all the way. Jesus, the whole bed is vibrating. Whoa, this man can

take it. It's the Harley-Davidson of vibrators. Everyone gets off of the

bed. Oh, yeah. This is awesome. Yeah.

What happens when I do this one? That is better when they have an attachment on you.

But that's nothing up your butt. That's a shame. We didn't put the attachment on you. He wasn't quite ready for penetration.

All right. Let's hear it for Polly Superstar on the control

and Dark Phoenix riding the Sybian like a bucking bronco. He is a cowboy.

Chelsea Demoiselle cocksucker par excellence. then we have our chorus of voyeurs.

Exhibitionist voyeurs. They are Onyx Muse and Shadow Cumbi and Master D and My Snake Eve. All right.

We're going to kind of wind up the show and do some thank yous. Then we're going to have a party.

Wow. First I want to thank my featured guest Polly Superstar whoo

aka Polly Whittaker Get her book if you haven't done it yet. Do it now.

Okay. And you'll enjoy it. I guarantee you whether you're into sex culture you're always into some kind of sex culture

you know but if you don't think you're into revolutionary kinky wild out there sex culture doesn't matter.

This is a tale of just a girl growing up you know and part of it

never growing up always being a girl always being a girl. And that's the fountain of youth

and she's tapped into it she's tapped into sex as a very positive energy and we appreciate that.

We really do. Thank you. It's very inspiring. So it's a very personal account and you'll love it

even if you think that sex culture sucks so to speak even if you think that sex culture is dangerous I mean she's not like a total cheerleader

she's real very real always presenting the complications Thank you Polly. Thank you Polly. Thanks for being here.

My pleasure. And we're so glad to connect with you we've been on our own sort of path our own way the bonobo way

and now we've converged paths. Okay kiss kiss. Do it again. And again.

Are you my cousin? Okay. And so what do you got upcoming

that you want to kind of promote? You got kinky salon LA you got your book. Tell us. Well I'm doing a European tour in March

that's going to be pretty fun and everyone's invited we're going to do the three kinky salons in Europe over three weeks. So it's going to be three Saturday nights

London, Copenhagen and Berlin and in between we'll be staying in it'll be like a cultural exchange staying with perverts

from these different countries that are throwing kinky salons out there and you know just three weekends in a row

exploring these different cities so it'll be really fun everyone should line up. London, Copenhagen and Berlin. What happened to Paris?

You know Paris hasn't signed up yet I don't know Parisians we're still waiting Paris and Rome. What about Max's hometown?

We got our own stuff going on there. Alright I'll do it in a wing of the Vatican Well we're so excited to have you here

Max! Sex culture revolution you want to say a final? Sex culture revolution

and the revolution when you get up in the morning and you look in the mirror you go what are you doing?

I'm doing revolution baby I'm doing revolution and I've been doing revolution for most of my life

couple of years in prison 23 prosecutions but we changed a lot of laws we had a lot of fun

I'm 71 and I've gotten worse as I get older or better depending on your perspective or better that's correct

and everybody used to say when I was a kid when you grow up you'll calm down I've got news for you

No right and you know I just want to say hey this kind of sex culture revolution stuff is for the polyamorous and it's also for the

monogamish I mean Max and I the captain and I have been married over 22 years and I can't imagine how we would stay together

if it wasn't for our community I mean I love you honey more than anything Well I'm polyamorous

I love everything Everything and everyone and life itself That's right

Let's see when I was a kid I used to walk down to the Yovetic and where all the hookers hung out just to say hi

Yeah Well Jesus loved the hookers God and God has blessed him Alright so how about our other guests here

Let's see You guys Onyx Show your boobs

Nice Nice Mold the microphone for her above her boobs You can actually see them

Where can we see them You can find them On my twitter Onyx underscore baby seven

Baby seven Yes Onyx underscore baby seven Do we have that on twitter here

You can add it And you can find lots of my adult scenes

And we can go to your parties as well My website for my parties is onyxsocialclub.com There you'll find

all the info and you sign up as an applicant An applicant I have an application process

I like to pre-screen everybody make sure everybody is okay they're consensual about

going down this vortex this fantasy vortex that I'm going to create Very good

I like to incorporate everybody and shadow I've been polyamorous for two years now I was in a monogamous relationship for five years

and I have two lovers besides David Saffron and I'm completely happy with my life now

and I have multiple lovers I feel more free with my life now than I did five years ago I can see who I want

and it's a very open, communicative situation We all know about each other Yes, I have a twitter

It's ShadowCumbie with three E's at the end It's C-U-M-B-I-E-E So that's where you can find me E!

Great outfit I'm Chelsea Bonobo on twitter I've been a revolutionary since I was a kid sexually active, lived on an organic farm as well

I had nothing to do with the part when she was a kid Very psychedelic I only take them as adults I'm Master-D

On twitter it's underschool, Master-D underschool He underscores a lot of things Okay, and of course my altar boy

Hey, I'm Dark Phoenix You can check me out Yeah There too

With rubberandbondage.com or you can check me out Rubberandbondage

That's one of the sites I work for and you can also check me out at Dark Phoenix at Facebook

And at this point you can check them out here Yeah, here too, and if you want to call and talk to me I'm always available at the Susie Block Show There you go

He is a therapist in demand Let's say hello to Jux Hello

Hello Hi, how you doing? I'm Jux There we go

Juxlea.com or Juxleather Juxlea Alright brothers and sisters

lovers and sinners We love you and we're so happy that we spent another Saturday night with you. What camera should I be looking at?

Any camera Again Again, again Get this book, okay?

I don't care if you're a revolutionary or you're an evolutionary or you're devolving You want to read this book

because it's a great read It's also part of the sexual revolution but great read is what's important Okay, this, whoops

You can read this book upside down Right, okay Follow the Bonobo Way brothers and sisters and five star reviews only

She's only got five star reviews so far I do too, but she has 50 I only have eight Give yourself another month

Alright, another month In the meantime Accept your sexuality Okay, don't follow in the footsteps

of the huckstable you know non-consensual rumors or whatever it is

I always say until it's been proven and I don't even know if it can be proven in a court of law, I don't know whether I believe it

but at the same time I never like that show I also have to say please follow the Bonobo Way

Communicate about your fetishes No non-consensual nothing Make like Bonobos not baboons

Make love not war Make love to someone you love tonight Even if that someone is yours I love you

A-Win Amen I love you Need to talk with someone about something

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