Kinky Newlyweds
Internationally renowned sex therapist and Sexologist-of-the-Year Dr. Susan Block talks with “Kinky Newlyweds” Irene and Evan about how to balance lust with trust, power play, marriage, BDSM, bisexuality, threesomes, Tantra, exhibitionism, boundaries and privacy.
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Full transcript of Kinky Newlyweds on The Dr. Susan Block Show:
Hello, you're on the air. Is that me? Yes, it's you. Hi, is the doctor or Susan? What do you prefer? Well, you can call me whatever you like. You can call me Dr. Susan or, oh wait, you want to be personal. All right, call me Susan. I'm here with my wife. We just got married. Congratulations, and what are your names? My name is Evan. Evan, and
What's your wife's name? Irene. Irene. Okay, Evan and Irene. What can I do for you? Well, we've been, you know, we were together. We married on a two anniversary. We are Extremely adventurous sexually. Ooh, what kind of adventures do you indulge in? First of all, we're very sexual. We have sex a lot. We do a lot of
Domination, she really enjoys being dominated by me. Oh, and you enjoy dominating her? Oh, absolutely. All right. She loves anal sex. We have a lot of it. Ooh. Receiving, I imagine. And tell that guy he's missing out. Nothing better than prostate massage, you know? Well, I was trying to tell him that, yes. Yes. But anyway, we also enjoy water sports. Ah! Little golden nectar. Oh, yeah, we do a lot of that. It's very exciting to watch her piss and
She's actually even learned to enjoy drinking my piss sometimes. Oh, really? Very hot. Extremely hot. Wow. So she drinks yours. Do you ever drink hers? No, I mean, you know, it's not because I'm kind of the more dominant one That doesn't really come up. Okay, but you watch her do it. Oh, yeah That's one of the hottest things we do in anal lingo. She's great. So we're very adventurous and my wife is extremely beautiful
And I have a very beautiful wife. Fantastic. Yeah, it's a very good thing. We get all excited hearing about you. Pardon me? Well, you're you're very exciting. Oh, thank you. I want you to take some Films or pictures of yourselves. Well, actually, that's something I she I have a lot of pictures of her naked and she's just beautiful I mean, we do have some films, but that's kind of what I want to get into is that I would like some films
And I would like to do I wouldn't in fact my wife is on the other phone. She's on the phone with us. Oh, hello Irene Oh Are you embarrassed? I really didn't want to talk. Okay, you can have such a beautiful voice. Oh, yes, maybe your master Evan can Well, I'm all excited hearing about the two of you and your very sexy wild relationship. Well, so here's my question. Yes
My wife, you know, it gives me anything I want sexually anytime three four in the morning She has never refused sex and never refused me. I have no complaints. You're a lucky little master, aren't you? It sounds just like my wife And she's multi-orgasmic, so she just you know rolls and rolls after one phone clenching orgasm to the next
Wow, what I really want and all that is great, and I'm very grateful and not being Just that I really want to bring a third party into our into our bed, especially a woman and She's very in fact. She's adamant about it. She doesn't want to do that Trying to find a way that I can do it where it's safe for her and
Because it would just that to me would be tremendous Now she doesn't usually say no to you Well, not clearly with the the games we play the role-playing is in the bedroom outside the bedroom, you know
She is a self-assured You know wonderful woman. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, but in the bedroom, you know We do role-play and it is it's dominant and I would like her to be able to dominate me It's not really hasn't come up yet. I mean she's working on that. I suppose but but back to this
I don't want to force her into doing something. It's not going to be healthy and safe for her Well, I don't want to either right, so I want to know why doesn't she want to do this thing Well, I don't think that honey. Do you want to talk to me to talk? I Think what what she says is that she's afraid that she'll like it too much one
to She doesn't want to see me with another woman and in the beginning I would even have to do that I just want to watch that be we break the more erotic than two beautiful women making love So let me get this straight. She is afraid. She'll like it too much or that you'll like it too much
She would like it too much. She actually had some experience when she was younger and enjoyed it didn't get too intense just kind of kissing and touching and Other women, you know fingered her to orgasm. It wasn't that intense, but When I was younger I had a lot of that way and I've been to orgies and I've had three thumbs and it was exciting
Well, you know Your lovely lady Irene she sounds like she's someone that gives herself completely when she has She's certainly giving herself pretty completely to you absolutely and I can understand why she's reluctant to To be with someone else who she would feel that if she was going to have a fulfilling experience
She'd want to give herself completely, but I give her total. I mean, I would like I better bring in a handsome man I mean, I have no problem with that Well, I think she's you know You have no problem with that. Yes, that's true. She has a problem with that her problem with and she doesn't even want to
Tell me what it is. Well, I think she knows she she's somewhat well-known in the community And I think she's afraid so I don't recognize her voice Uh-huh, and if she's also well-known in the community, she might also be afraid That this third person might get out. Yes. Yeah, but you see to me
Concerning adults coming together and having an adventure. There's nothing elicited with that something wrong with that We're not breaking any laws. Well, I don't know what she is in the community But a lot of people think that that's really kinky and that that's wrong and might judge her badly because of that I think it's hot. Well, I think it's hot too. I think it's hot too
Yeah, we all think it's hot, but I don't think she's worried about people like me and max. Let me ask you this. Yes Have you ever had sex with a woman? Yes, and you enjoy it. Oh, yes But are you married? Yes. Okay, your husband approves that Well, yes, that's wonderful
But one thing is we do have certain boundaries. I don't have body fluid exchanging sex at this during my marriage You don't you don't necessarily eat another woman not necessarily no I think it revitalizes and it keeps the marriage young Well, I certainly agree and when we we do indulge in many sexual adventures with other people both male and female
We we save certain types of sex just for ourselves. Perhaps your wife would enjoy Some form of outer course with another woman like if you an interested in SNM maybe she would enjoy being spanked by another woman or You know having something like that done to her that isn't quite so intimate
Our next step may be is I don't think she want to be spanked by another woman because I mean, I don't really spank her It's not really as much as an effort. Well, I don't whatever creation and degradation within the confines of the role play, you know Like her begging for my cock or begging for me to pin on her I don't have to interject here. Interject. All right
One of the main reasons I don't want someone else involved is to me sex is I'm very free with it But it's a very intimate thing and I want to be intimate with my husband I understand and I really don't want to bring someone else into it There you go, and he's known that from the get-go
Well, there's always chance to lobby Well, let me ask you one more question Susan with my wife Let me ask Arine one question. Do you mind that he keeps talking about this idea? I mean if you don't have to do these told him while we're making love that can be exciting and we can talk about it
Uh-huh, but I don't want to feel pressured about it throughout our lives That sounds like my wife, you know, I'll talk about I'll go as far as he wants in fantasy, but in Reality, I don't want to be intimately involved with someone else if I if I otherwise I wouldn't be getting married. I mean to me It's a spiritual thing. Yes. I don't feel I don't want to see my I've been there
I've done that. Yes, and I know how I feel afterwards How do you feel afterwards? I? Enjoy it while it's happening, but afterwards it leaves me cold, uh-huh and after sex with your husband You're still hot. Yeah, or at least warm
Yeah, yeah, well gosh that's such a beautifully articulated reason I have a hard time with fighting that although I would just ask you is there any level of Sexual interaction that you would have with other people that would not sort of broach the sacredness of this Relationship that you're talking about I would maybe flirt or dance around with another woman or something
But but as far as getting down to being naked and touching and no, I mean I've already experienced that And how about the flirting and dancing around have you done that? Oh, yeah, but not for not for him Well, how about doing that for him? Eventually, I mean right now we have a lot to explore with each other a lot of places. We haven't gone in
At an intimacy level that I would like to reach before going there, which is fair that is very fair This is let me ask you this. Are you involved the touch community though? Yeah, it peripherally All right
Well here's the thing I mean we have a lot of access into that and we're gonna probably start doing it between ourselves not to say with other people But where I think once my wife feels secure in my love and we kind of ground this marriage Well, I think a nice step might be instead of involving someone else as far as
flirting is like to have sex in front of somebody else Absolutely, I was just going to suggest perhaps, you know, there are tantric weekends That couples go on and they have you know, the couple only has sex with each other But they have other couples around and then there's usually a couple that leads the weekend
And I would maybe do that if we weren't in this town Ah, yes, here comes the identity protection. Okay. Well, here's the thing though Yes, the thing what what what are my fantasies like? Let's forget the other man other women in the bed right now
What are my fantasies is that if my wife is I told you extremely beautiful? Yes, see a woman that beautiful doing the things that she does you on her knees begging for me to do these Incredibly outrageous kinky things, you know begging for my piss I mean, it's very hot and if I could have someone watch that he wants to show off
Irene what my wife does for me like it turns me on, you know But you know, she's being so vulnerable with Susie they can come over here and do this at the villa Oh, absolutely. You can come over and do this at the villa Well, you guys couldn't handle up until I'm telling you
What do you mean? I take that as a challenge He wouldn't let you broadcast it. Oh, well, we wouldn't broadcast it Yeah, the fdc would not let you broadcast well, I didn't say we would broadcast it now did I? Oh, you mean you're offering to film for us. Yeah, we'll just film you while you're here
I mean, we don't miss we won't broadcast it. We'll just film you Okay And we you know, we'll we'll have a good time watching you and you'll probably have a great time showing off for us Yeah, that's exactly what my fantasy is and I'll say this without trying to embarrass my wife
Is that when we do engage in anal sex? I have a very large penis She she enjoys it so much and she has such powerful orgasms when I'm you know fucking her heart up the ass And it's very exciting. Of course. I like dirty talk. So that's coupled with it. It's just it's very hot I'm I'm just getting very
Yeah, please Irene I have tremendous respect for because she's She's a very bright and vulnerable lady. Well, here's the real turn on it You talk about the Horma Donna syndrome my wife is such a lady She's so if you see her you think she was Betty Crocker or Donna Reed
I think she's prettier than Betty Crocker. Yeah, she's approaching you but in the bedroom. She is an absolute So Irene Can I speak to Irene master? Okay, I need to know I mean now we're talking about you kind of doing a performance a performance sex
with your Your lovely master husband there who would enjoy so much showing you off to others who would not interfere with your intimacy at all We would be very respectful, but I don't know how you feel about this I I mean I'm keeping my fingers. I would consider down the road down the road like in a couple of hours, maybe
We'll be we'll be you know here for you know to the wee hours of the morning. So Talk about it if we came and performed for you would you guys like be masturbating when we did it Oh, you if you're as hot as you say you are you bet we're very handsome couple Yeah, well, you know, I mean I I don't guarantee that we all masturbate for you
But if you're very hot then we will How about that if we get turned on we we don't we're not shy, but we are also very respectful and we will not touch or You know interfere
Unless Requested here's my dilemma and this is like this is like the dark side of me coming out when we go into role-playing We go into character. Here's the dark side of you coming out the dark side of you's been out This is true. We go into character. There's literally nothing that I can't do my wife
She gets so into it and she gets so turned on that I mean, you know I mean, that's how I got I gotta see this I mean you got so turned on that she tried it and we tried it She never wanted to do it and then she learned to like it. So I know that in that moment I
Could probably push her boundaries way past the point that she would want to in the moment She'd love it, but I know there'd be repercussions afterwards. Then you shouldn't do that Okay, you got to be you know as a master you should be creative and wild and Charming and seductive, but also be responsible. Come on. You're married. It's not like she's a she's she's not your as you say
She's not a 24-hour slave. No, so yeah, so you do have to deal with her later So you don't want to have her do something that she's gonna be all upset about because you'll ruin it That's how well I love her. I don't want to and right now It's so good is that I want to keep this as long as we can exactly as you have children and as you move into
How old are you guys? I am in my late 30s. Keep it forever. I'm 55. Oh, really? Yeah Keep it till you're 80 keep it a life, but it does go through changes So that's why it's always a good idea when you're in a really hot stage to take some film of it So that later when you're in another stage you can look back and go wow look at us
I can't get the angles I want by doing it myself. I'll get the angles on you, honey. I Got my angles all set up You're wild I'm a little wild, but but but I want Irene to know I'm not that wild
Because it's true. There's a brain behind the wild. Yes, and there's a heart also that comes through. Thank you Well, we wish we were channel for a thing We saw you on the on the radio on the television. We said let's call it up and check it out. All right I'm a big golden shower fan, too. Are you really do you drink your husband? No, I don't drink his he drinks mine
Really? You're kind of the dominant one. I need to talk to you a little more Well, I don't know I'm dominant in some ways, you know but in other ways, I mean for instance, I like him giving me a spanking, but I like to give him a spanking and
I I mean we do different things and in some ways he's dominant in some ways. I am she likes to show off I do like to show off What does that mean? lots of things
It means I do this show my dog. Oh my god. That's right So you're pretty well on your show. Yes, but it always stops short of anything showing anything explicit Well, that's it does show some explicit things and and we have certain limits that well actually you should tell them We were censored by Century Cable just a couple of weeks ago
Some of what we've gone beyond certain limits that you aren't allowed to know about because of our censorship from public access Anyway, I think you're providing a service good for you. You're listening to radio Suzy one on the worldwide web
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